jiovanni007
Smash Ace
No, Ness' PK Fire isn't better than Lucas' at all. Ness' gets owned by smash DI, this alleged combo you speak of would never work against players who know how to DI properly. Ness' air game is not good, fair is amazing, but everything else is meh. His nair while instant, doesn't have great range and he'll still get hit when he uses it, its mostly a defensive option to prevent aerial ****-age. His dair is situational and can still nipple if not hit at the right time or right spot. Bair doesn't kill as well as it used to and is really not that great of an option. Uair is meh as well, though strong, it has start-up lag. In case everyone here doesn't know, moves with start-up lag give the opponent the opportunity to air dodge (assuming that they're in the air) and good players will do this instead of taking a hit.Ness' PK Fiyyahr > Lucas' Big Gay Fiyur.
Offensively, Ness' PKT2 is better than Lucas', but recovery wise it obviously isn't.
Ness just flows a lot easier from my experience. His aerial attacks at lower percents link into each other better. Say if you PK Fire to dash attack, jump, uair, rising uair then nair that's like 70% right of the bat, and I've achieved stuff like that against good players and such.
I just find Lucas worse than Ness in the air, but on ground Lucas fares slightly better. I don't rate Lucas' Up or Down Smash much (for lag and such) but Fsmash is a killer. Lucas' jab is better and his tilts are marginally better but IMO kinda function in the same way as Ness'.
I don't really like comparing the two. I just find Ness a little better again because he flows a bit better. I can't really syliloquise that any other way, it's hard to explain for me.
Edit : I didn't realise that you put that Ness has a bad air game! D:
Shame on you sir.
Lucas in the air is much better. Fair may not be as good as Ness', but it comes out quickly and is disjointed. Nair is much better than Ness', it autocancels and its disjointed. Bair is still bad, but probably not as bad as Ness', it autocancels and spikes. Before you cry about how hard it is to hit with the spike, look at Ness' spike and stfu, they're both hard to hit with but some players can make them work sometimes. I would say Lucas' bair > Ness' Dair since Ness' dair gets owned by air dodging, whereas Lucas' bair owns air dodging. Uair is still bad, though Lucas' is quicker, but lacks the hit trajectory and KO power of Ness'. OTG, there is no discussion, Lucas wins.