QFT, Mike G just won Final Round 11 using Snake in the finals I heard.Really? Snake mid tier? come on man lol. he's already winning tournaments
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QFT, Mike G just won Final Round 11 using Snake in the finals I heard.Really? Snake mid tier? come on man lol. he's already winning tournaments
im going to have to disagree to your fantasy teir here. First Wolf isnt that great to be top tier just becuase hes your fav doesent make him automatically go up their. Shiek, Ganon, and Falco should be in an higher tier. and Dedede has to much potential to be put in the lower tier dude.Here's my tier list
SSBB Tier List
Top:
Wolf
Olimar
Marth
Upper:
Toon Link
Pit
Metaknight
Ike
Pikachu
High:
Diddy Kong
Link
Fox
Sonic
Mid:
Ice Climbers
Zero Suit Samus
Snake
Luigi
Zelda
R.O.B.
Lucas
Mario
Low:
Peach
DK
Falco
Game and Watch
Pokemon Trainer
Ness
Captain Falcon
Dedede
Bowser
Ganondorf
Sheik
Botttom:
Jiggypuff
Lucario
Wario
Yoshi
thanks for pointing out the obvious.All this tier talk is nice, but still moot.
The game hasn't even been out a month yet. Some amazing things about Melee weren't discovered for years. I expect the same for Brawl.
Hmm i think it will be different becuase due to the lack of combos in brawl, any charecters even with unamazing combos will place higher on the list. Also reflectors=less useful becuase of how easy it is to catch things like peach's turnips,link's bombs etc... And counters... why counter when you could just sh airdodge and then punish opponents move appropriatly? (sp?)Not entirely, effective combos get you to high tier as well, and I'm basing this mostly on melee tiers. Top/high tier had counters, or were shiek (combo heavy). Perhaps this game is different. I doubt it highly.
Edit: Also, I wanted to do exactly your post (plus combos), except he explained individual choices, so I countered each one.
Last part I don't know because I'm still new at this (I understand it, but wouldn't have thought of doing it). Maybe my original statement is incorrect, but I still think reflectors won't be extremely useful, as spacies will be able to use them to camp quite effectively.Hmm i think it will be different becuase due to the lack of combos in brawl, any charecters even with unamazing combos will place higher on the list. Also reflectors=less useful becuase of how easy it is to catch things like peach's turnips,link's bombs etc... And counters... why counter when you could just sh airdodge and then punish opponents move appropriatly? (sp?)
Facepalms! Thousands of them!
this is what i agreed onthanks for pointing out the obvious.
...no really, thanks. It's been said many times, but i don't expect you to have read the 50 pages of bull****. there's no point to this discussion, except maybe to learn some character theory.
So far Ive done best with D3, Marth I like Diddy kong but his UP+B sucks... also snake sucks
Try charging it? Seriously, his up+b can spike, also. His up+b gives him one of the best recoveries in the game.So far Ive done best with D3, Marth I like Diddy kong but his UP+B sucks... also snake sucks
lol...Ok, after testing here's my impressions:
Top
Pit
Marth
Spacies
High
MK
Olimar
Diddy
Lucas
Toon Link
Zelda
Shiek
Wario
Sonic
Ike
Pikachu
Ness
Mid
R.O.B
Captain Falcon
IC
Luigi
Mario
Link
DeDeDe
PT
G&W
Snake
Low
DK
Yoshi
Bowser
What tests could you have possibly run in the 5 days that you've had all the characters unlocked?Ok, after testing here's my impressions:
Top
Pit
Marth
Spacies
High
MK
Olimar
Diddy
Lucas
Toon Link
Zelda
Shiek
Wario
Sonic
Ike
Pikachu
Ness
Mid
R.O.B
Captain Falcon
IC
Luigi
Mario
Link
DeDeDe
PT
G&W
Snake
Low
DK
Yoshi
Bowser
You kidding me? Yoshi is amazing, much better than he was in Melee.You put Wario at the bottom..................................................................................I know we are just assuming becuase we only been playing it for a week...but seriously? 4 real? No doubt? Wario worse than everyone else? If there has to be a worst character it has to be Yoshi. Yoshi is indeed the least advantaged character now.
When money is on the line having the better character gives you an edge. Brawl is truly more balanced. The way i see it, The characters listed in my post that are High and High-Mid will be used in tournaments more often and will fair almost equally well. That is a way better jump in terms of numbers from MeleeI dont know it should matter.
I mean, what does a tier list even acomplish? it just tells which characters are the best/most used.
that really shouldn't be the decider of what character you should use.
This time around though the characters are WAY more balanced which means that it will be harder to distinguish the "whose better than who" lists.
I just really dont want Brawl to end up like Melee where it seems like everyone is either Fox/Falco/Marth or whoever. Being good with a supposedly "low tier" charcter is way cooler than just playing with a strong and easy to use character.
Marth *cough* metaknight *cough*
you are forgetting someone...name starts with a W and it isn't "wario".characters that can win tournaments
snake
characters that cant win tournaments where snake is present
everyone except snake
characters that can win tournaments where snake isn't present
everyone
neither is chuck norris, but it's irrelevant because snake is bad in brawl.wsnake is not a character
...Walther?you are forgetting someone...name starts with a W and it isn't "wario".
Gimpyfish just became my favorite modsnake will
DUDE ZERO BEAT IS BACK I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN MONTHS HI SUPWait until Sheik begins to prosper again.
Then we'll see who wins at tournaments.
meta won't be top tier at least because of his lack of kill moves. replace him with G&WI say Toon Link, Marth, Space Animals, Pit, and Metaknight.
Why Toon Link? He's quick, light. You can easily string together his aerials. And his aerials can all kill.