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Offical Birdo 4 SSBB Thread

DemonicDragon

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Hello and welcome to the offical birdo support thread. We all want this great pink wonder in brawl-.
Birdos Statistics
Power-***
Speed-****
Defense-**

My Birdo moveset-
B-basic egg shoot(damage 3-5%,fireball,4-8%)
this move is birdos standard weapon in any mario game, fires one egg straight her foe, (medium to high fire rate)
B->Flying Egg(damage 6-10%)-Birdo encase herself in egg and flys forward at high speed press b again to break the egg and she will fall to the ground.
Down B-Exploding egg-(15-20%)Birdos spits egg from her mouth into her arms, like Links bombs you'll have to chuck the egg quick or plant or you'll take major damage, the egg will explode into a fiery explosion on contact or explosion time(5-8 seconds are required before birdo can use this attack again.)
^B-Shy Guy copter minion=A small egg appears on top of birdos head and hatches the shyguy inside will lift Birdo up she can fly until the little guy gives out.(4-6 seconds)
Birdo Final Smash-Healing Heart Aura=Birdo will create a heart for her or each of her teamates and they'll all regain 50% of damage they've taken(not 50% damage, 50% percentage of that #.)

Common Arguements DIFFUSED
A:Arguer
Me(duh)
1.A:Birdos is a generic charcter who never play a real role.
ME:Yes, she does and if you remember correctly Birdos played a role as indivdual also, yoshi once was generic and still is if you remember melee, yoshi had a team of different color yoshis, also pikachu is generic also, as he is a common pokemon
2.Shes just a filler and isn't important to the series!!!!!
ME:Then why keep her around, that obviously isn't true, and I don't believe in fillers anyhow.
3.A:We don't need a shemale in brawl, the SMB2 manual claims shes in fact a HE!
Me:screw the manual besides smb2 was a game where birdo actually was generic, that fact is most non-important characters are labels as HEs regardless of appearance back then.
4.A:There are more deserving characters such as Geno or Bowser Jr., a gay character like Birdo would ruin brawl.
ME: that may be your opinion but BJ is very new and most characters in brawl are classics, Geno is fine but hes only got1game and really only has his fans backing him up.
5.A;I don't like her shes never had a lead role anyway.
too bad, A lead role in not required for brawl, and that my friends leads us to our next section Game Experience!!!!!!!

Game Experience
birdo has been in a lot of games heres a list
1.SMB2(Generic Reccouring Boss)
2.Wario Woods(helps toad by tossing down bombs and trys to keep wario at bay)
3.Mario Tennis(Playable Character)(Generic)
4.Mario & Luigi-Superstar saga(Boss)
5. Mario Power Tennis(Playable Character)
6.Mario Superstar Baseball(Playable character)
7.SMRPG(Boss)
8.Idaki Street DS(Playable Character)Birdo is the only character playablethat has ever been called generic besides toad and yoshi, both well known for their indivdual roles.
9.Mario Party 7(Playable character)
10.Mario Party 8(Playable character)
11.Mario Hoops 3 on 3(Playable Character)

Assist Trophy,na-the fact is birdo plays better as a character, assist trophies are cool cause their small moveset is already made up, all we know that birdo can do is spit eggs, she'd be much better getting full character treatment, heck we didn't know fox could do anything outside his ship till the orginal SmashBros were he proved to be one the most effective characters ever.

Leaving Note-Do not come here expecting to start a flame war, you will get reported like any other thread maker I expect a decent level of respect.
 

antimatter

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dude, dont make a copy of a thread you made just cause no one looked at the first one.
 

DemonicDragon

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dude, dont make a copy of a thread you made just cause no one looked at the first one.
I would have simply renamed it but this board doesn't have a rename feature. It had nothing to do with who veiwed it, I'm confident the right people will find it time but that name was misleading.
 

antimatter

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it actually has a rename feature. you can highlight the title and backspace it, then you can type it in.
 

AmericanGTS

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Common Arguements DIFFUSED
A:Arguer
Me(duh)
1.A:Birdos is a generic charcter who never play a real role.
ME:Yes, she does and if you remember correctly Birdos played a role as indivdual also, yoshi once was generic and still is if you remember melee, yoshi had a team of different color yoshis, also pikachu is generic also, as he is a common pokemon
2.Shes just a filler and isn't important to the series!!!!!
ME:Then why keep her around, that obviously isn't true, and I don't believe in fillers anyhow.
3.A:We don't need a shemale in brawl, the SMB2 manual claims shes in fact a HE!
Me:screw the manual besides smb2 was a game where birdo actually was generic, that fact is most non-important characters are labels as HEs regardless of appearance back then.
4.A:There are more deserving characters such as Geno or Bowser Jr., a gay character like Birdo would ruin brawl.
ME: that may be your opinion but BJ is very new and most characters in brawl are classics, Geno is fine but hes only got1game and really only has his fans backing him up.
5.A;I don't like her shes never had a lead role anyway.
too bad, A lead role in not required for brawl, and that my friends leads us to our next section Game Experience!!!!!!!

1) All right I have some questions for you, simply because I don't know a lot about Birdo. I'm not trying to challenge you here, but what game did Birdo have a rather large role in? I can only think of games where Birdo is a stronger than average grunt but none where Birdo was the main protagonist/antagonist.

2) Not sure what to think about filler characters, I guess they're cool but I don't have anything to really contribute..

3) This point is just weird.

4) Wait. Hold on. Oh HELL no did you just use that argument against Geno. He may have been in TWO games, one of which was a small cameo but still, and the other being that the plot couldn't have came to a pleasant end without him. Super Mario RPG would have been absolutely pointless if Geno wouldn't have came down and took the star pieces to repair the Star Road. Sorry if I'm about to sound rude but, where has Birdo ever played that much significance in a game? She was in Super Mario RPG as a decently powerful grunt, but served absolutely no purpose other than to stall Mario and his friends. Geno may have a rather large fan base and a slim future, but he's still alive and well in fan communities after all these years.

5) Well you DID say Geno is fine..
 

Santini

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I don't understand how someone can be such an avid birdo fan. I think most people either don't like her or are just indifferent. What did she do to gain actual fans?
 

DemonicDragon

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by role, i simply meant she was a playable character or had some personality as a boss, she hasnt had a real since wario woods where her job was to stall wario and supply toad with bombs
 

DeuceBlade

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Birdo is extremely filler... she is in the similar league of Toadette (rofl!!)

Bowser Jr has extremely higher priority than Birdo.. (Brawl is focusing heavily Mario Sunshine) so obviously Bowser Jr has importance plus BJ is 10x better.

Birdo is not part of the Yoshi universe (for all those who can't realize that, she has never appeared on Yoshi's island)

Yes Birdo = ******..

Most likely Birdo will be in brawl... as she was in melee a stage hazard.
 

DekuBoy

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I want Subcon to return as a stage but bigger.
I don't count Pokemon and Yoshi generic because they represent their unique series. Birdo would be in league with Goombas.
PS: She was also playable in Mario Strikers Charged.
 

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I think it would be really cool to fight with Birdo on Brawl, but I'm almost certain she'll just be an AT.
 

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I believe she'll be an AT. I'm just not too fond of birdo. as deuce blade said, sakurai is focusing on super mario sunshine so i believe bowser jr. will get in before birdo.
 

AIM0001

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Uhhhh if we are at all going to have a PC from Super Mario Bros. 2 I'd rather see Wart take this spot but I don't even think he's ready for Brawl either.........
 

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By the logic given by the 1st post on "classic" characters. Then I guess Shy Guy should make it, or a Koopa should make it, or even Mouser should make it. I'm sorry but Birdo fails to have a chance as a Playable in Brawl
 

DemonicDragon

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Uhhhh if we are at all going to have a PC from Super Mario Bros. 2 I'd rather see Wart take this spot but I don't even think he's ready for Brawl either.........
so would I but alas Wart didn't last very long, i mean he was kicked after only having one game so sad
 

DemonicDragon

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By the logic given by the 1st post on "classic" characters. Then I guess Shy Guy should make it, or a Koopa should make it, or even Mouser should make it. I'm sorry but Birdo fails to have a chance as a Playable in Brawl
try reading the full post,*******,since when has a shyguy or goomba been a Boss had any personality whatsoever?! Let alone had any role?! You FAIL!!!
 

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Birdo was only a boss in one game, and from that one game we really didn't get anymore personality from him/her than a Shy Guy or Koopa.
 

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I'd like Birdo in Brawl...doesn't seem TOO likely but it'd be cool...Oh, and Birdo wasn't playable in Mario Power Tennis, she was playable in Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour.

(She also had a small cameo in Kirby Super Star if you wanted to add that too.)
 

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so would I but alas Wart didn't last very long, i mean he was kicked after only having one game so sad
That's because SMB2 was a port of a Japan-only game, called Doki Doki Panic, and only a few elements from that game, mainly Shy Guys and turnips, were carried over later in the series. In Japan, SMB2 is known as Super Mario Bros. USA.

Also, by your argument of saying that characters would have to be classic, that would mean Ike could not make it in, and that Birdo has better chances than Olimar and Bowser Jr., which is obviously not true. I'm sorry, but Birdo has not had as significant of an impact on the Mario world as other candidates have had, nor does he/she/it have a fanbase as large as Geno or Bowser Jr.
 

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try reading the full post,*******,since when has a shyguy or goomba been a Boss had any personality whatsoever?! Let alone had any role?! You FAIL!!!

Oh I'm sure I can point out a few. Like King Goomba (PM64, SM64DS, MKDS) who has been in the same number of games as boss that Birdo has been. What gives you the right to say Birdo deserves the right over all other generic enemies or known enemies in particular? The only evil Mario characters should be Bowser and (if possible) Bowser Jr. And if Birdo gets in, who else will show up? Octorok from LoZ? Kremling from Donkey Kong? Polar Bear from Ice Climber?

Face it, Birdo will not be playable in Brawl. But i'll be looking forward to any of her AT, SE Enemy, Trophy, Background, or Sticker appearence(s)
 

antimatter

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technically now a she. i was disturbed to find out birdo's description as the first MTF nintendo character as described on wikipedia.
 

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you know whos also playable in party/sports games dry bones koopa blooper and hammer bros so even if being in spinoffs counted (which it doesnt) by your logic birso is a little more important than dry bones yeah and dry bones just missed the playable character choice (obvious sarcasm)
 

hello_kitty

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I would like her playable in Brawl, since she's played roles in variety of Mario games. I think her chances are not high at all, but I would like her.
 

DemonicDragon

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you know whos also playable in party/sports games dry bones koopa blooper and hammer bros so even if being in spinoffs counted (which it doesnt) by your logic birso is a little more important than dry bones yeah and dry bones just missed the playable character choice (obvious sarcasm)
Thats funny since the hammer bros made it all the way to an assit, Birdo is just a little above them, so I believe she'll make it as a character. By my logic also only characters who have been a boss or higher can make it to brawl which none of those characters fits.
 

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Actually Birdo is the perfect AT. Do you honestly think that Birdo would make it over other characters, like Toad or *dies* Bowser Jr.?

I'm serious, don't get your hopes up. Bowser Jr. seems to be the main "sub" villain in the recent Mario games. Nintendo is really pushing him, and I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted him in Brawl.
 

DemonicDragon

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Actually Birdo is the perfect AT. Do you honestly think that Birdo would make it over other characters, like Toad or *dies* Bowser Jr.?

I'm serious, don't get your hopes up. Bowser Jr. seems to be the main "sub" villain in the recent Mario games. Nintendo is really pushing him, and I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted him in Brawl.
Toad has no fighting skill, but Bowser Jr. yes he'll probably get in, and birdo would suck as AT.BTW:I understand of unlikely it is.
 

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Toad has no fighting skill
That's funny, because in Birdo's first game Toad was playable.

This point is really stupid. Really I'm sick of hearing it. Peach can't fight anymore than Toad, and Peach is playable. (Don't give me the Super Princess Peach argument, she was playable in Melee which was a long time before the release of SPP)

and birdo would suck as AT.
Too bad, because that's the most he/she's getting.
 

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You forgat Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour for Gamecube and Super Mario Strikers, Birdo is in that as a boss. Birdo is also playable teammates (multiple birdos) in both the Mario Striker games.

Birdo also makes an appearance in Mushroom Kingdom II stage in Super Smash Brothers Melee.
 

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Thats funny since the hammer bros made it all the way to an assit, Birdo is just a little above them, so I believe she'll make it as a character. By my logic also only characters who have been a boss or higher can make it to brawl which none of those characters fits.
i said more important than drybones also even if you hadnt misread my post spinoofs dont count for jack-**** in SSBB otherwise i would have seen toad in melee
 
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