Ruuku
Smash Lord
Doesn't every player do that soul crushing thing?
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No Disassemble!: Overswarm's instruction manual for ROB
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holysnap
Smash Cadet
Great guide on ROB, I feel more confident with ROB after reading this.
Dude I love all the stuff on SoulCrushing, I know all about that ahaha! It is so true too! You should put that stuff in Binary because we only want Robs to be able to read that amazing post!
It's so funny to sandbag on the friendlies before the tournament, fall for things that you won't usaully fall for on purpose to make them think that's an effective tactic against you, just fail but make it close. Than when the tournament begins and the oponnent is thinking "This worked on the friendlies I'll use it again here" Completely destroy him, counter his moves, and another big rule is if you can try not to let him hit. Even if the opponent is good if you can deal 50-60% without letting him hit you, you will usaully be able to 0-death him, and 0-death is a falcon punch to the soul... Nobody can play smash well no matter how great they are after that...
Dude I love all the stuff on SoulCrushing, I know all about that ahaha! It is so true too! You should put that stuff in Binary because we only want Robs to be able to read that amazing post!
It's so funny to sandbag on the friendlies before the tournament, fall for things that you won't usaully fall for on purpose to make them think that's an effective tactic against you, just fail but make it close. Than when the tournament begins and the oponnent is thinking "This worked on the friendlies I'll use it again here" Completely destroy him, counter his moves, and another big rule is if you can try not to let him hit. Even if the opponent is good if you can deal 50-60% without letting him hit you, you will usaully be able to 0-death him, and 0-death is a falcon punch to the soul... Nobody can play smash well no matter how great they are after that...
JJR.O.B.
Smash Ace
right on, right on, right on
Hey_Its_Nacker
Smash Lord
huh everyday theres a rob thread i miss >.> .
Its a good guid so far just remember to add the protip thing i was talking about in the other thread .
Protip: Every time you crush someones soul a ROB wins a match.
10knackers
Its a good guid so far just remember to add the protip thing i was talking about in the other thread .
Protip: Every time you crush someones soul a ROB wins a match.
10knackers
cutter
Smash Champion
Even though I don't main ROB, the Soul Crushing part of your guide was well worth reading. Soul Crushing isn't just for Smash, but it's applicable in pretty much any competitive game.
I definately love ****ing around with my G&W in friendlies to try and have people think I suck. I successfully pulled that off in a decent-sized tourney when I 3-stocked the guy's Pit with my G&W. When it came to the second game, he played like absolute crap and lost even faster. He constantly *****ed about the turtle during game 1 and I abused it to hell and back to easily win the 2nd game.
Knowing when to show emotions and knowing when to be stoic is also critical IMO to successful Soul Crushing.
I definately love ****ing around with my G&W in friendlies to try and have people think I suck. I successfully pulled that off in a decent-sized tourney when I 3-stocked the guy's Pit with my G&W. When it came to the second game, he played like absolute crap and lost even faster. He constantly *****ed about the turtle during game 1 and I abused it to hell and back to easily win the 2nd game.
Knowing when to show emotions and knowing when to be stoic is also critical IMO to successful Soul Crushing.
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Wow, you're so heartless OS. XD
Ruuku
Smash Lord
Sometimes I start speaking other languages when I play.
Nintendevil
Smash Ace
umm, yes you can... I've done it. two stocked him right after that, and then won.
Am I the only one who doesn't get this? I can see it coming a mile away. I never judge people on one match reguardless if it's friendly or competitive. It just makes sence to me that a friendly round is a friendly round, however they play may be nothing like how they play competitivly...
Ruuku
Smash Lord
I usually start cursing in French.
penguinman
Smash Apprentice
The whole guide is great OS. Very in-depth and the soul crushing thing is great. I just tried it on my brother and it really got to him.
JJR.O.B.
Smash Ace
Your own brother. Thats evil
DRaGZ
Smash Champion
I think there's one really useful thing about dash attacks you forgot, and that's edgeguarding.
Generally, if an opponent is recovering from an area below the ledge, there's three things you can really do, depending on at what point the opponent is in his recovery (considering that his most obvious course of recovery would be to go up to the ledge).
1. You can run to the edge, short-hop, and d-air cancel for the spike. This is very circumstantial, has a high probability of not working, and generally isn't very efficient.
2. You can just run off. From here, depending on where the opponent is placed near you, you can f-air to keep him away, b-air to attempt a stage spike or put him beneath the, n-air, which generally isn't fast enough, or u-air, which can stage spike under weird circumstances.
3. If the opponent is too close but still hasn't grabbed the edge (i.e. he's about 3/4 of R.O.B.'s base's length away from the edge), you can dash attack, This will almost always hit the opponent, and, depending on how they DI, send him upwards, where you can jump up and continue your assault, or send him sideways, which will give you opportunity to run off and pursue.
imo, that's what the dash attack is most useful for, and that's what I generally use it for in any serious match.
Generally, if an opponent is recovering from an area below the ledge, there's three things you can really do, depending on at what point the opponent is in his recovery (considering that his most obvious course of recovery would be to go up to the ledge).
1. You can run to the edge, short-hop, and d-air cancel for the spike. This is very circumstantial, has a high probability of not working, and generally isn't very efficient.
2. You can just run off. From here, depending on where the opponent is placed near you, you can f-air to keep him away, b-air to attempt a stage spike or put him beneath the, n-air, which generally isn't fast enough, or u-air, which can stage spike under weird circumstances.
3. If the opponent is too close but still hasn't grabbed the edge (i.e. he's about 3/4 of R.O.B.'s base's length away from the edge), you can dash attack, This will almost always hit the opponent, and, depending on how they DI, send him upwards, where you can jump up and continue your assault, or send him sideways, which will give you opportunity to run off and pursue.
imo, that's what the dash attack is most useful for, and that's what I generally use it for in any serious match.
DRaGZ
Smash Champion
Also, one thing to add about the Up+B is that when you're approaching the enemy off-stage with it to edgeguard, getting into a position slightly below the opponent will give them the opportunity to footstool jump off of you, which is a decidedly bad thing since it gives them a free jump when you're trying to gimp them. Fortunately, R.O.B. doesn't go into the tumbling footstool animation, but the opponent gets to get away. Space yourself well, and be aware of falling speeds.
holysnap
Smash Cadet
Obviously the soul crushing technique has no effect on you... Your a ROB, ROB's have no soul.
But if your in a tournament and in the first stock you 0-death them...Than their soul is crushed.
And alot of times people try their hardest in friendlies, if I own some1 5 times in friendlies before the competition, that I usaully am not too scared when I fight him in the first round.
JJR.O.B.
Smash Ace
Another way to soul crush (this only works if you know you can beat your opponent) is to cream them in friendlies like ten times before the competition and then they will be to afraid to fight.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Great read as always. It makes me sad how effective ledge-camping is in Brawl.
JJR.O.B.
Smash Ace
Thanks for adding the "How to remain in control even when on the defensive". I have needed help on this forever because whenever i played defensive i would lose
toasty
Smash Hero
looks like I have some homework @_@
the Lexx
Smash Apprentice
great guide, the stuff on soul crushing is pretty awesome haha
that's also a good way for them to learn your playstyle then get an advantage in a match that actually means something (so use that trick with caution)
JCaesar
Smash Hero
No Hanenbow, Pictochat, Pirate Ship, or Pokemon Stadium 2? I know different regions see different stages. In MD/VA we usually don't see Distant Planet, Skyworld, or Green Greens.
Roller
Smash Legend
Great guide OS. Maybe I'll try ROB out now...
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Hanenbow's not banned on the EC. I agree there isn't really anything worth saying about Pictochat, but PS2? You don't change up your strategy any when there's low gravity, moving floors, or ice?
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I should probably bump this when I update this.
I'm prolly gonna clean up the Yoshi matchup thing, maybe add some more to it... I want to keep them more simple than anything. We'll see where it goes. Feel free to point me in a direction.
I'm prolly gonna clean up the Yoshi matchup thing, maybe add some more to it... I want to keep them more simple than anything. We'll see where it goes. Feel free to point me in a direction.
BoTastic!
Smash Master
reaal good Guide. Helped me out a lot, man.
ipitydatfu
Smash Master
hey OS if you dair someone on the clouds of skyworld, do they fall through it?
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Yes .
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