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This is true from what I've seen from the "Anti-SJW" crowd. If you had asked me if I was Anti-SJW back around 2013 when I first heard the term, I would have said yes due to my right-wing views. However, a lot of Anti-SJWs are still left-wing.

Some Anti-SJWs support equality and oppose negative views for things that they or society at large currently supports, but consider acceptance for things still largely taboo (like fat acceptance for example) "PC gone mad" or "SJW" like. They call people with more left-wing/PC views than them SJWs, as the quote states.
Those Anti-SJWs believe in the same premises, believe in the same things, and use the same arguments as the SJWs they claim to hate. They are just more "moderate" in some ways.

Sometimes I roll my eyes at the term "SJW", but as long as we keep using the words bigot, -ist, -phobe, etc. I guess I have no problem with the term.

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I don't think you grasp why people still use words like bigot, racist, sexist, -phobic, etc. to describe others and their viewpoints.

JonTron earlier today (or was that yesterday?) had very clearly racist viewpoints. Unless you're a hardcore racist yourself, there's really no way to argue it.
I have a feeling, that this should be nipped at the bud.

So both of you.

Not right now.
 
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This is true from what I've seen from the "Anti-SJW" crowd. If you had asked me if I was Anti-SJW back around 2013 when I first heard the term, I would have said yes due to my right-wing views. However, a lot of Anti-SJWs are still left-wing.

Some Anti-SJWs support equality and oppose negative views for things that they or society at large currently supports, but consider acceptance for things still largely taboo (like fat acceptance for example) "PC gone mad" or "SJW" like. They call people with more left-wing/PC views than them SJWs, as the quote states.
Those Anti-SJWs believe in the same premises, believe in the same things, and use the same arguments as the SJWs they claim to hate. They are just more "moderate" in some ways.

Sometimes I roll my eyes at the term "SJW", but as long as we keep using the words bigot, -ist, -phobe, etc. I guess I have no problem with the term.

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Most liberal anti-SJWs I know of don't support things such as fat acceptance movements though, at least from I've seen.

I always thought the term SJW was reserved for a certain kind of extreme liberal that actively looks for oppression even where it isn't and pandering to minorities because they're minorities.

Now the term is use for anyone with any kind of slightly progressive values. You know something is wrong when anchors on Fox news are being called SJWs.

I think the problem is that there were two general groups that lashed out against SJWs, those being conservatives and moderate liberals. My bet is that once the SJW issue is over(It's not timeless, it will end soon.), the moderate liberals will lash out against conservatives once again. Actually, scratch that, that's already happening, but it's not that big yet.

I know for certain that there's far more people that complain about SJWs than there are SJWs, especially when people that critisize SJWs tend to be called SJWs themselves.(Of course the definition of SJW is highly subjective.)
 
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Most liberal anti-SJWs I know of don't support things such as fat acceptance movements though, at least from I've seen.

I always thought the term SJW was reserved for a certain kind of extreme liberal that actively looks for oppression even where it isn't and pandering to minorities because they're minorities.

Now the term is use for anyone with any kind of slightly progressive values. You know something is wrong when anchors on Fox news are being called SJWs.

I think the problem is that there were two general groups that lashed out against SJWs, those being conservatives and moderate liberals. My bet is that once the SJW issue is over(It's not timeless, it will end soon.), the moderate liberals will lash out against conservatives once again. Actually, scratch that, that's already happening, but it's not that big yet.

I know for certain that there's far more people that complain about SJWs than there are SJWs, especially when people that critisize SJWs tend to be called SJWs themselves.(Of course the definition of SJW is highly subjective.)
Not helping matters is the way the term--and others--get tossed around as a means to shame people for such horrific transgressions as "saying something that someone disagreed with"...
 
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Not helping matters is the way the term--and others--get tossed around as a means to shame people for such horrific transgressions as "saying something that someone disagreed with"...
I mean sure, but as I've implied earlier *insert word for person I disagree with* exists no matter what. I'm talking about in political context. Because people do actually use SJW as an attempt to describe people of certain characteristics. It's not like the word "******" where people use it but they'll say they don't mean gay people.(Why even use it at given the original implications of the word? Which people still use it within that context.)
 

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So I just had another moment where hearing a complaint about BotW led to it simmering in my head and my having a dawning realization about the care put into BotW.

This time it's about people complaining about the muted and often lack of soundtrack. Now, in most other sorts of games I love the loudest, most exciting music I can get, but considering what happens when I play games with exploration that have more pronounced soundtracks, I actually respect the silence in most areas of BotW for one very big reason: an awesome song for ten minutes is fun. An awesome song for dozens upon dozens of hours looping constantly is GRATING.

Even the best music can be completely soured by overstaying it's welcome. BotW is the first game with exploration that I've played that utterly sidesteps that. Exploration is mercifully quiet, and even the battle theme starts as more of a quiet warning than a song and takes long enough to escalate that you're probably fighting something pretty serious if it gets to the exciting part, which you won't very often.

As a soundtrack in a vacuum there's probably quite a few games that have a larger number of songs I love, but as a soundtrack that respects your sanity and the type of game it's in I can't think of any game that does better.

So knowing the subtle sensation of irritation from song overdose all too well as I do, I actively applaud Nintendo for the likely careful and deliberate choice, possibly even made after they had played those other games and had the same realization of what too much music while exploring does to your enjoyment of a song that I did.
 

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So I just had another moment where hearing a complaint about BotW led to it simmering in my head and my having a dawning realization about the care put into BotW.

This time it's about people complaining about the muted and often lack of soundtrack. Now, in most other sorts of games I love the loudest, most exciting music I can get, but considering what happens when I play games with exploration that have more pronounced soundtracks, I actually respect the silence in most areas of BotW for one very big reason: an awesome song for ten minutes is fun. An awesome song for dozens upon dozens of hours looping constantly is GRATING.

Even the best music can be completely soured by overstaying it's welcome. BotW is the first game with exploration that I've played that utterly sidesteps that. Exploration is mercifully quiet, and even the battle theme starts as more of a quiet warning than a song and takes long enough to escalate that you're probably fighting something pretty serious if it gets to the exciting part, which you won't very often.

As a soundtrack in a vacuum there's probably quite a few games that have a larger number of songs I love, but as a soundtrack that respects your sanity and the type of game it's in I can't think of any game that does better.

So knowing the subtle sensation of irritation from song overdose all too well as I do, I actively applaud Nintendo for the likely careful and deliberate choice, possibly even made after they had played those other games and had the same realization of what too much music while exploring does to your enjoyment of a song that I did.
Most open world games tend to run the same way BotW does; awesome song for a few minutes, then nothing, or something really easy afterwards. If you're someone who's not used to open-world games, like I'd imagine a lot of Zelda fans are, then it may be jarring to having long moments of silence, but if you are, then it's just normal.
 

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Most open world games tend to run the same way BotW does; awesome song for a few minutes, then nothing, or something really easy afterwards. If you're someone who's not used to open-world games, like I'd imagine a lot of Zelda fans are, then it may be jarring to having long moments of silence, but if you are, then it's just normal.
I suppose it showcases the relatively low number of games I pick out for myself in that case. Still, it's always a bit refreshing to have a bit of a eureka moment as to why a design choice is typically made. Many times game design choices people feel upset about have good or at least understandable reasons for happening, and coming to those understandings is quite interesting for me.

In this case, moral of the day would be "big games don't use big music constantly because otherwise you'll want to punch something."
 

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Man, the new Ace Attorney game look great!

Apollo is gonna need some work on this one tough.
 

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I suppose it showcases the relatively low number of games I pick out for myself in that case. Still, it's always a bit refreshing to have a bit of a eureka moment as to why a design choice is typically made. Many times game design choices people feel upset about have good or at least understandable reasons for happening, and coming to those understandings is quite interesting for me.

In this case, moral of the day would be "big games don't use big music constantly because otherwise you'll want to punch something."
If you ever wanted to read more into game design decisions and the industry itself, you should check out https://askagamedev.tumblr.com Real fun blog to read every now and then. Also be sure to check out GDC VODs on Youtube.

Hell there's one on Breath of the Wild right now
 
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I just found something out
Average American Grading Scale:
A+- 97-100
A - 94-96
A- - 90-93
B- 80-89
C- 70-79
D- 60-69
F- 59 and under
I will never complain about school gradings again, that's actually ****ed up. 55 percent is already a D here
I'm not gonna brag but...

I was valedictorian in high school and currently have a 3.9 GPA in college.





Okay, so I bragged a lot, sue me.
 

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I just found something out
Average American Grading Scale:
A+- 97-100
A - 94-96
A- - 90-93
B- 80-89
C- 70-79
D- 60-69
F- 59 and under
I will never complain about school gradings again, that's actually ****ed up. 55 percent is already a D here
I find it odd how America is supposedly one of the dumbest first world countries in terms of school results and yet our grading is so much more harsh. Is the added pressure actively clouding the ability of the populace to think, or do we have such self esteem issues as a country that we directly compare our grades to those of other countries instead of comparing actual scores and make our country look dumber than we actually are as a result?
 

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I find it odd how America is supposedly one of the dumbest first world countries in terms of school results and yet our grading is so much more harsh. Is the added pressure actively clouding the ability of the populace to think, or do we have such self esteem issues as a country that we directly compare our grades to those of other countries instead of comparing actual scores and make our country look dumber than we actually are as a result?
American students are known for being some of the most stressed out students out there, and now that I've seen the grading, y'all need a better grading system like the rest of the world, no letters, just a scale from 0/10
 

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I find it odd how America is supposedly one of the dumbest first world countries in terms of school results and yet our grading is so much more harsh. Is the added pressure actively clouding the ability of the populace to think, or do we have such self esteem issues as a country that we directly compare our grades to those of other countries instead of comparing actual scores and make our country look dumber than we actually are as a result?
Could be those things.

I personally think its due to how America's lower class seems to dislike education and how we somehow make our students work more but learn less.

America has one of the highest rates of assigned homework in the world. Perhaps we focus too much on the grade and not on the learning.
 

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Could be those things.

I personally think its due to how America's lower class seems to dislike education and how we somehow make our students work more but learn less.

America has one of the highest rates of assigned homework in the world. Perhaps we focus too much on the grade and not on the learning.
But how do you get high grades if you don't learn? American schools jfc
 
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If F is 59 and under...
Then what does mean getting a Super F?

Absolute zero?, a negative grade?, minus infinity? :V
 

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But how do you get high grades if you don't learn? American schools jfc
Getting the grade means jumping through hoops and learning material for a short while.

We tend to forget most of it a term later cause why bother?

That's the idea anyways.
 
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I FINALLY GOT MY SWITCH!

Just have to wait for Zelda to arrive now lol.

I've had lots of fun playing Snipperclips and Blaster Master though. And simply admiring the system. It's truly beautiful.

Also tiny.
 

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The only major design flaw I can see with the Switch (besides the can't charge and stand at the same time thing) is the Joycon have a dead space where there's no control stick or button. It makes me wonder why it's there in the first place. Is it to there's enough room to fill in all the tech or is it because if the controllers were any smaller they'd be more awkward to hold?
 
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I just found something out
Average American Grading Scale:
A+- 97-100
A - 94-96
A- - 90-93
B- 80-89
C- 70-79
D- 60-69
F- 59 and under
I will never complain about school gradings again, that's actually ****ed up. 55 percent is already a D here
So basically, you have no idea how much you got in a test if you scored below average
I mean, how will you know if it was a simple 50 that can easily be fixed or if you should really start studying if it's way below that?
Also, I'm assuming a D would be the average grade? In here it's 70% so the US have it easy
 

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So basically, you have no idea how much you got in a test if you scored below average
I mean, how will you know if it was a simple 50 that can easily be fixed or if you should really start studying if it's way below that?
Also, I'm assuming a D would be the average grade? In here it's 70% so the US have it easy
We do, teachers always hand tests and **** back showing what was right and what was wrong while giving the grade like 8.5
 

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I'm rewatching Snake Codec call in Brawl.
God, I feel old right now, and I am only 18...

To be more positif, The writing on the codec conversation are gold for sure.:laugh: You could tell that they had a great time writing and recording those lines.
 

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So basically, you have no idea how much you got in a test if you scored below average
I mean, how will you know if it was a simple 50 that can easily be fixed or if you should really start studying if it's way below that?
Also, I'm assuming a D would be the average grade? In here it's 70% so the US have it easy
Why would a D be average? D grade is failing in some places

In my college, the best you can get with a D is "Pass" without being able to advance to the next level. At worst an automatic failure
 
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