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So I was messing around with Awakening for a bit, and looked at the Spotpass units for the first time in a long while. It's really surreal seeing the Gaiden units after playing Shadows of Valentia.

...And it also makes the ones they picked seem strange in hindsight. For reference, each past game got ten units, most of which were comparatively important characters. Gaiden got the following:

Alm, Celica, Clive, Clair, Luthier, Mycen, Boey, Valbar, Nomah, and Deen.

Why the hell did they put Deen, of all characters, in over someone like Saber? :laugh: Especially considering Deen is unrecruitable if you go for Sonya. Alm and Celica are obvious, and Clive, Clair, Boey, and Valbar make sense (the latter since he was inexplicably on the cover of Gaiden), but I feel like Luthier, Mycen, Nomah, and Deen kind of jumped the line a bit. Then again, this is going by Echoes, and Gaiden had much less development for the more minor characters, so yeah. I just think it's neat is all. :p
Their choices for Awakening were heavily limited due to the dearth of official artwork for the characters from Gaiden; essentially, the only art available for any characters from the game was that of the game manual, which explains both why they picked who they picked, and why the art looks so rough. The only characters to have art in the manual were the ten who appeared in Awakening, plus Silque, Gray, Tobin, Kliff (the latter three appeared all in the one image, making it hard to separate them), and the Whitewings (who were covered by other games/DLC). Nobody else had art from Gaiden of any form. Gaiden characters also never appeared in the original FE trading card game, which was where all the art for FE4 was sourced from.
 
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Hmm, well I suppose it can't hurt to check the reviews on the original Pro Controller to help make an informed decision.

*checks Best Buy reviews since the retailer I was thinking of buying from doesn't seem to have the original up*

Wow, that is a. . .lot of positive reviews. And the vast majority of the negative bullet points by far are about the price, which while it's why I'm thinking it over this hard in the first place doesn't actually say anything about the quality of the product.

. . .



I'm guessing their kid's eyes were very Misty. It must have really rocked their faith in Nintendo. Burnt it to Ash, even. Dealing with faulty products must be more of a workout than going to the Gym. Could really mess a Geodude up. What an Onyxpected tragedy.

Eh.

I haven't seen the need yet. Wouldn't worry about it unless you need exactly one more controller, want the Splatoon edition for its own sake, or truly despise the doggo grip.

Might be worth revisiting around Smash time.
See, that's the thing. I'm mulling it over this hard because I actually do fall into category two. The basic edition didn't catch my attention at all because it isn't a necessity, but the amount of subtle detail on the Splatoon edition has me mulling it over.

Of course, with a decision like this I figured it wouldn't hurt to gather info on the Pro Controller to help make a more educated decision. . .
 

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So does anyone know why the Star Fox series of 8 games + 1 remake has gone through SIX different developers?

This has always bother me.
 
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So I was messing around with Awakening for a bit, and looked at the Spotpass units for the first time in a long while. It's really surreal seeing the Gaiden units after playing Shadows of Valentia.

...And it also makes the ones they picked seem strange in hindsight. For reference, each past game got ten units, most of which were comparatively important characters. Gaiden got the following:

Alm, Celica, Clive, Clair, Luthier, Mycen, Boey, Valbar, Nomah, and Deen.

Why the hell did they put Deen, of all characters, in over someone like Saber? :laugh: Especially considering Deen is unrecruitable if you go for Sonya. Alm and Celica are obvious, and Clive, Clair, Boey, and Valbar make sense (the latter since he was inexplicably on the cover of Gaiden), but I feel like Luthier, Mycen, Nomah, and Deen kind of jumped the line a bit. Then again, this is going by Echoes, and Gaiden had much less development for the more minor characters, so yeah. I just think it's neat is all. :p
Gaiden has a surprisingly small amount of artwork(no villain has it) so they were limited to who they could use.
FEA didn't use the manual artwork for the characters(the ones used were from the official handbook iirc) which Saber and Kamui, for example, didn't have.
And Saber was just as important as Genny back in Gaiden, he was heavily salvaged by Echoes, in character and unit usage. Like, his growths were **** even for the game's standard
ALlike that I know about Fate is that there's WAY too much porn of it.

Maybe that's why people remember.
Hmm...
*flashbacks to the first Saber fanart I saw*
Oh yeah, that...

 

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Coricus Coricus I'm picked up the Pro Controller a while back and love it, it's definitely more comfortable that the dual Joy-Con controls.

You can also use it on PC too without adapters or mods.
 
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See, that's the thing. I'm mulling it over this hard because I actually do fall into category two. The basic edition didn't catch my attention at all because it isn't a necessity, but the amount of subtle detail on the Splatoon edition has me mulling it over.

Of course, with a decision like this I figured it wouldn't hurt to gather info on the Pro Controller to help make a more educated decision. . .
Eh, Cori, let's not kid ourselves here. Category two needs minimal justification, if that - which here is fine. it'll look fresh and serve you well.

If you're after the aesthetics and you've got the scratch to spare, go for it.

Still debating it myself, but...likely.

What's wrong with a Vegan Diet?
No bacon.

No bueno.
 
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Their choices for Awakening were heavily limited due to the dearth of official artwork for the characters from Gaiden; essentially, the only art available for any characters from the game was that of the game manual, which explains both why they picked who they picked, and why the art looks so rough. The only characters to have art in the manual were the ten who appeared in Awakening, plus Silque, Gray, Tobin, Kliff (the latter three appeared all in the one image, making it hard to separate them), and the Whitewings (who were covered by other games/DLC). Nobody else had art from Gaiden of any form. Gaiden characters also never appeared in the original FE trading card game, which was where all the art for FE4 was sourced from.
Gaiden has a surprisingly small amount of artwork(no villain has it) so they were limited to who they could use.
FEA didn't use the manual artwork for the characters(the ones used were from the official handbook iirc) which Saber and Kamui, for example, didn't have.
And Saber was just as important as Genny back in Gaiden, he was heavily salvaged by Echoes, in character and unit usage. Like, his growths were **** even for the game's standard

Hmm...
*flashbacks to the first Saber fanart I saw*
Oh yeah, that...

TIL Gaiden had an art shortage.

That actually makes a ton of sense now. Though now I'm kind of retroactively sad that they passed over Silque. :p
 

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Cori, let's not kid ourselves here. Category two needs minimal justification, if that.

Which here is fine. it'll look fresh and serve you well. If you're after the aesthetics and you've got the scratch to spare, go for it.

Still debating it myself, but...likely.


No bacon.

No bueno.
Hmm... True, you're right.
 

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What's wrong with a Vegan Diet?
[WARNING] What you are about to see is a joke fueled by recent TV Tropes viewing [WARNING]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/VeganArtbook

More seriously, there's nothing wrong with being vegan. However, there is something wrong with taking it a bit too seriously, and some people can't actually physically handle it as well as others due to not being able to absorb iron from leafy greens as well. To think of a hypothetical situation that might warrant concern, if a child suffered from that issue and the parents kept forcing them on the diet anyway. . .
 

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Hmm...
*flashbacks to the first Saber fanart I saw*
Oh yeah, that...
i keep thinking you are talking about FEs Saber
[WARNING] What you are about to see is a joke fueled by recent TV Tropes viewing [WARNING]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/VeganArtbook

More seriously, there's nothing wrong with being vegan. However, there is something wrong with taking it a bit too seriously, and some people can't actually physically handle it as well as others due to not being able to absorb iron from leafy greens as well. To think of a hypothetical situation that might warrant concern, if a child suffered from that issue and the parents kept forcing them on the diet anyway. . .
My sis cant eat raw leafy greens anymore because she dosent have a galbladder anymore, there another example
 
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I just realized I can finally play the SNES version of Yoshi's Island.

Why the **** has Nintendo never released that version on the Virtual Console?
Like Star Fox 1 & 2 (which haven't gotten Virtual Console releases either), the SNES version of Yoshi's Island used the Super FX chip, which Nintendo owns no rights to as far as I'm aware. Emulation issues could've been a factor as well.
 

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Star Fox is great example of why Miyamoto's 'Each new entry has to have a gimmick!' can kill a series
 

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How do people know I like Fate, I talke about it, like, once every month, maybe. Why do people remember small things about me? Damnit I'm not important enough for this, I'm the guy who ******* about EO 25/8 and ****posts 99% of the time.
Unless I did a bunch of Saber "appreciation" posts when I was sleep deprived and that left people traumatized.

I remember just because we talked about it before. Like I can't consider myself a fan of the Fate series, but because it does have themes I'm interested in(summoning otherworldly beings and mythology/legends), I do pay some attention to it and I do pay attention to people who discuss the series.

Although that being said, I would be interested in a MOBA for the series and I might get Fate/Extella for the Switch at some point(for Portability and that it has all the DLC costumes, including Pre-order DLC, for free).
 

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Star Fox is great example of why Miyamoto's 'Each new entry has to have a gimmick!' can kill a series
Except he only made three of those.

And two of those are considered masterpieces.
 
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Star Fox is great example of why Miyamoto's 'Each new entry has to have a gimmick!' can kill a series
I think I saw an interview looking up Star Fox 2 that actually claimed that Star Fox was Miyamoto's dumping ground for that even from the start.

Which would. . .explain quite a few things about Zero.

Much like Metroid, I don't think Star Fox is dead either though. I think it'll be getting a bit of a hiatus due to the lack of demand for a new one compared to Metroid and I don't think they'll be greenlighting any spinoffs any time soon, but I don't think they're going to take it out back. Basically everything with a Switch avatar is an IP that sells well enough barring games Nintendo has been told constantly they disserviced the IP with and Nintendo actively cares enough about for it to be in a safe zone IMO.
 

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Hmm, well I suppose it can't hurt to check the reviews on the original Pro Controller to help make an informed decision.

*checks Best Buy reviews since the retailer I was thinking of buying from doesn't seem to have the original up*

Wow, that is a. . .lot of positive reviews. And the vast majority of the negative bullet points by far are about the price, which while it's why I'm thinking it over this hard in the first place doesn't actually say anything about the quality of the product.

. . .



I'm guessing their kid's eyes were very Misty. It must have really rocked their faith in Nintendo. Burnt it to Ash, even. Dealing with faulty products must be more of a workout than going to the Gym. Could really mess a Geodude up. What an Onyxpected tragedy.


See, that's the thing. I'm mulling it over this hard because I actually do fall into category two. The basic edition didn't catch my attention at all because it isn't a necessity, but the amount of subtle detail on the Splatoon edition has me mulling it over.

Of course, with a decision like this I figured it wouldn't hurt to gather info on the Pro Controller to help make a more educated decision. . .
"Remote Brock" shouldn't have used a water type against that fire type...I bet he was feelin a little Krabby:098:

Either way...this is why you usually pay that little bit extra for warranty...more often than not I never need the warranty but it's better than paying full price for another item a second time if something should go wrong...
 

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So since Star Fox 2 was never finished, does it technically count as a new Starfox game, even though it's so old?

If it ends up different from the released ROMs it would, right?

Man I wish I could just buy as many pitchforks in Exhoes as I wanted.

I used 2 one for Clive who I turned into a Mercenary and one I used on Emma to make her a Cavalier.

Clive I made a Mercenary since he's not really that good as a Cavalier and I need more sword users on Alm's side and I turned Emma into a Cavalier cause I have her on Celica's route and so I don't need 4 Pegasus Knights.
Honestly, it would probably be better to keep Emma as a Peg Knight on Celica's route because of all the swamp and desert maps. Having a 4th Peg Knight on those maps is really helpful, whereas Cavaliers only get use at the very end of Act 3 and 4.
 

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See if Nintendo were smart they would just let Namco make a Star Fox: Assault sequel since it had the perfect formula to build off of for modern age Star Fox.
 

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So since Star Fox 2 was never finished, does it technically count as a new Starfox game, even though it's so old?

If it ends up different from the released ROMs it would, right?
I could see it as "new" as it never saw an official release

And the leaked prototype is still unfinished. A former staff member of SF2 states the prototype lacks "encounter" and "Rouge-like" gameplay that the official will most likely has (plus the English language in the prototype is a fan translation).

More info here: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...star_fox_2_nintendos_most_famous_cancellation
 
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I still want to see Star Fox Zero hit the Switch with motion controls completely optional.

Might make it servicable.

"Remote Brock" shouldn't have used a water type against that fire type...I bet he was feelin a little Krabby:098:
It was not until this moment I realized just how many Pokepuns Coricus Coricus had in her prior post.
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Feeling a little slow.

Think it's time for bed now.

Getting Drowzee.
 
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I think SNES Classic Edition should have a few more games for the total of 30 games just like the NES Classic Edition. I see that it comes with two controllers so it would make sense to emphasize the multiplayer gameplay by including more multiplayer games, especially the ones where two players can play at the same time instead of taking turns.

Single player
  1. Chrono Trigger
  2. EarthBound
  3. F-Zero
  4. Mega Man X
  5. Star Fox
  6. Super Castlevania IV
  7. Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
  8. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
  9. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
  10. Super Metroid
  11. Super Punch-Out!!
  12. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

Multiplayer (taking turns)
  1. Donkey Kong Country
  2. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
  3. Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!
  4. Kirby's Dream Course
  5. Super Mario World

Multiplayer (playing at the same time)
  1. Contra III: The Alien Wars
  2. Final Fantasy III
  3. Final Fight 2
  4. Kirby Super Star
  5. Pocky & Rocky
  6. Secret of Mana
  7. Star Fox 2
  8. Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
  9. Super Bomberman
  10. Super Mario Kart
  11. Tetris Attack
  12. The Legend of the Mystical Ninja
  13. Zombies Ate My Neighbors

Oh well, can't have everything. Also, the games that are already in SNES Classic Edition are superb picks.
 

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I think SNES Classic Edition should have a few more games for the total of 30 games just like the NES Classic Edition. I see that it comes with two controllers so it would make sense to emphasize the multiplayer gameplay by including more multiplayer games, especially the ones where two players can play at the same time instead of taking turns.

Single player
  1. Chrono Trigger
  2. EarthBound
  3. F-Zero
  4. Mega Man X
  5. Star Fox
  6. Super Castlevania IV
  7. Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
  8. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
  9. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
  10. Super Metroid
  11. Super Punch-Out!!
  12. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

Multiplayer (taking turns)
  1. Donkey Kong Country
  2. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
  3. Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!
  4. Kirby's Dream Course
  5. Super Mario World

Multiplayer (playing at the same time)
  1. Contra III: The Alien Wars
  2. Final Fantasy III
  3. Final Fight 2
  4. Kirby Super Star
  5. Pocky & Rocky
  6. Secret of Mana
  7. Star Fox 2
  8. Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
  9. Super Bomberman
  10. Super Mario Kart
  11. Tetris Attack
  12. The Legend of the Mystical Ninja
  13. Zombies Ate My Neighbors

Oh well, can't have everything. Also, the games that are already in SNES Classic Edition are superb picks.
Good luck getting Zombies at my neighborhood. You got just as good chance as Turtles in Time

It's owned by Disney
 

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Star Fox 2 finally getting an official release is pretty damn cool.

It's worth mentioning that we got an official release of Star Fox 2 before a localized Mother 3.

Just thought I'd let you all know.
 

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It would have been cooler if instead of these mini consoles they were a cartridge for the Switch each.
I'd love it if, once Nintendo got the Switch's virtual console up and running, there was the option to buy games in a bundle, like the NES Classic Bundle or the Super NES Classic Bundle (or based on series, like all of the NES Mario Bros. games for $12, or all three Donkey Kong Countries for $18). All of the games would be included, though it might not be worth it to get the bundle if you only want a few of them.

That way, there'd at least be a less expensive option (in the grand scheme of things) compared to buying games that you've bought on the Wii or Wii U for full price again, and people who missed out on the NES Classic (or who will inevitably miss out on the Super NES Classic, because there's no way that they're going to make anywhere near enough to meet the demand) will have an alternate option to relive that nostalgia.
 
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Star Fox 2 finally getting an official release is pretty damn cool.

It's worth mentioning that we got an official release of Star Fox 2 before a localized Mother 3.

Just thought I'd let you all know.
Localize Mother 3 guy from Smackdown backfired.
 

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A lot of people are saying that this being more expensive for less games is a let down but honestly, the NES Classic had a lot of filler games and a lot of NES games were short in general.

SNES Classic has Final Fantasy VI, Super Mario RPG, and Secret of Mana, those three games alone will give you as much playtime as most of the NES Classic games combined.

Not that there aren't some glaring omissions here (Super Mario All-Stars, DKC 2+3, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy IV, Mega Man 7, Mega Man X2 + X3), and there are a few ones I would have liked that I know are more unreasonable (basically any of the Disney Capcom games, Goof Troop being my main one).

All things considered though, we got a really good line up that's well worth the price.
 

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So since Star Fox 2 was never finished, does it technically count as a new Starfox game, even though it's so old?

If it ends up different from the released ROMs it would, right?


Honestly, it would probably be better to keep Emma as a Peg Knight on Celica's route because of all the swamp and desert maps. Having a 4th Peg Knight on those maps is really helpful, whereas Cavaliers only get use at the very end of Act 3 and 4.
Yeah I know that now, but it's too late.
 

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Yeah it's pretty crazy we're getting new Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Metroid, Splatoon, Star Fox, Kirby, Xenoblade, Pikmin and Fire Emblem games in the same year. As well as a few new IPs.
 

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Got my preorder for the SNES Classic in supposedly a few minutes after the store got emailed about orders for it becoming available.
Lucky.
 
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i keep thinking you are talking about FEs Saber

My sis cant eat raw leafy greens anymore because she dosent have a galbladder anymore, there another example
I'll take Saber Altria Arturia porn over Saber's Gaiden artwork amy day of the week except on Sundays
I remember just because we talked about it before. Like I can't consider myself a fan of the Fate series, but because it does have themes I'm interested in(summoning otherworldly beings and mythology/legends), I do pay some attention to it and I do pay attention to people who discuss the series.

Although that being said, I would be interested in a MOBA for the series and I might get Fate/Extella for the Switch at some point(for Portability and that it has all the DLC costumes, including Pre-order DLC, for free).
All I have watched are the two ufotable anime adaptations but it was enough for me to start liking the series(Fate/Zero is honestly one of my favorite animes). I wish I could get more into it but gods, I look at this whole Nasuverse thingy and it makes the Star Wars EU look small and simple

I'm definitelly getting Fate/Extella as well, need a "mindless beating up mooks so I can let off my stress" and I'm still kinda iffy on FEW so Extella is the "I just hope it's as good a HW because Zero!Rider is there and that's all I need to know" Musou game to FEW's "holy **** I swear if I don't Hector"
Also, Arturia but it's not like she was ever NOT going to be in something Fate related

 

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Star Fox 2 finally getting an official release is pretty damn cool.

It's worth mentioning that we got an official release of Star Fox 2 before a localized Mother 3.

Just thought I'd let you all know.
Inb4 they're saving that for E3 2018

Yeah it's pretty crazy we're getting new Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Metroid, Splatoon, Star Fox, Kirby, Xenoblade, Pikmin and Fire Emblem games in the same year. As well as a few new IPs.
This shows Nintendo is clearly dead. /s
 

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Flying under the radar is the fact that Nintendo got both Capcom and Square-Enix on board to make the SNES Classic's library happen.

As well as the fact that Super Mario RPG is among the games, which has always been more of a cult classic than a really big thing before.

And the fact that the SNES Classic is, in fact, a thing after all. Another feather in the cap of those rumors from a while back, to stick right next to Mario + Rabbids. And since those sources also said an enhanced port of Smash 4 was in the works...

Nintendo doesn't know what to do with the series.
Pretty much. It's as if they haven't figured out exactly what they want its identity to be.

Star Fox is great example of why Miyamoto's 'Each new entry has to have a gimmick!' can kill a series
That as well. He seems to think gamers won't give each new entry a chance otherwise, which might tell us something about his design philosophy.
 
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So the Japanese list of games is up.
The exclusive ones are:
  • The Legend of Mystical Ninja
  • Super Soccer
  • Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem
  • Panel de Pon
Meanwhile it's missing
  • Earthbound
  • Kirby's Dream Course
  • Super Castlevania IV
  • Super Punch-Out

The Japanese exclusives don't surprise me, but the lack of Earthbound sure does.

Also their box looks better, as usual. :p
 

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So the Japanese list of games is up.
The exclusive ones are:
  • The Legend of Mystical Ninja
  • Super Soccer
  • Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem
  • Panel de Pon
Meanwhile it's missing
  • Earthbound
  • Kirby's Dream Course
  • Super Castlevania IV
  • Super Punch-Out

The Japanese exclusives don't surprise me, but the lack of Earthbound sure does.

Also their box looks better, as usual. :p
In this case I'm not really missing any of the exclusives, unlike the NES Classics lack of River City Ransom
 
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