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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

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Golden Sun was fairly popular back during the GBA days though, I thought? I can't personally confirm since I wasn't around for those days, but I've heard people say that before.

Nowadays though, I definitely agree. Lots of people haven't played Golden Sun. Though I have known a few people who don't follow Smash news that played Dark Dawn and enjoyed it.
Has everyone played Golden Sun? If not, then not enough people have played it. :)

It was popular, then. But that was a different era. How I wish a new game could come out with the sort of advertising Nintendo has put in to Fire Emblem.
 

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I'd like to be added to the supporter list, please! Isaac has been one of my most wanted characters for a long time, and I was really disappointed when he didn't show up in 4. Let's get him in this time!
 

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Edit: I just came to a realisation during a debate I had. For all the talk about how Mario spinoffs are more profitable for Camelot than a new Golden Sun would be, the Camelot-developed Mario spinoffs
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Edit: I just came to a realisation during a debate I had. For all the talk about how Mario spinoffs are more profitable for Camelot than a new Golden Sun would be, the Camelot-developed Mario spinoffs
have seriously declined in terms of success and popularity since 2014 relative to earlier games. If Aces fails, I wonder if Camelot could take a break from making constant Mario spinoffs and try their hand at a GS1+2 remake? I mean, it certainly wouldn't be any "riskier" than the alternative, given the sales for the past couple if games they developed.
Aces isn’t going to fail, though. The marketing and presentation is too solid.

If only that same focus could be turned towards Golden Sun.
 
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Aces isn’t going to fail, though. The marketing and presentation is too solid.

If only that same focus could be turned towards Golden Sun.
I definitely don't see Aces failing, either. I just hope that somehow Camelot decides to put off the golf game for a while to make Golden Sun, or enlist the help of teams from other studios to make both at the same time.
 

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I definitely don't see Aces failing, either. I just hope that somehow Camelot decides to put off the golf game for a while to make Golden Sun, or enlist the help of teams from other studios to make both at the same time.
What if Isaac became playable in Aces that would stir up both communities. And either way this Mario Tennis is a giant leap since ultra smash that game was a poor exuse for a full title.
 

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What if Isaac became playable in Aces that would stir up both communities. And either way this Mario Tennis is a giant leap since ultra smash that game was a poor exuse for a full title.
Isaac has a 1 second cameo in the intro of Aces. :estatic:
 
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What if Isaac became playable in Aces that would stir up both communities. And either way this Mario Tennis is a giant leap since ultra smash that game was a poor exuse for a full title.
I unironically wouldn't mind this. It would at least show that Camelot still remembers Golden Sun in some form.
 

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Having Isaac pop up in Aces would be a neat callback of sorts too - Mario Tennis: Power Tour and Mario Golf: Advance Tour both used a modified Golden Sun engine!
 
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Having Isaac pop up in Aces would be a neat callback of sorts too - Mario Tennis: Power Tour and Mario Golf: Advance Tour both used a modified Golden Sun engine!
That gives me an Idea. Would you guys mind the New Golden Sun to use the Aces Engine? If we are getting that surprise at E3. If at all.
 

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I've been reading people reasons why Isaac should be in smash and the more I think about it. I think Isaac will not be just a sword base character he will be similar to Robin play style. Thats how I see it I dont know about Isaac or Golden Sun as a hole. But I want to see Isaac in smash it'll make my friend happy. And I want to be added in the support list please.
 
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That gives me an Idea. Would you guys mind the New Golden Sun to use the Aces Engine? If we are getting that surprise at E3. If at all.
I certainly wouldn't mind, as long as we get a new Golden Sun (or remakes!) The only issue in regards to the engine is that the two games aren't as similar as the GBA games were. The GBA Mario sports games actually operate as RPGs - as you can see in these screenshots...



...they look and operate pretty similarily to Golden Sun. You explore areas, and the Golf one even has an overworld, but instead of doing battles, it's tennis or golf matches - there's even stuff that looks similar to Psynergy! Aces has a story mode again, but it seems to play out on a world map-type thing, and doesn't really seem to have any areas like Golden Sun. It could work, but it'd take a lot more work than the GBA engine did. If they were to make a Golden Sun for Switch, I think they'd probably make a new engine.
 
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I certainly wouldn't mind, as long as we get a new Golden Sun (or remakes!) The only issue in regards to the engine is that the two games aren't as similar as the GBA games were. The GBA Mario sports games actually operate as RPGs - as you can see in these screenshots...



...they look and operate pretty similarily to Golden Sun. You explore areas, and the Golf one even has an overworld, but instead of doing battles, it's tennis or golf matches - there's even stuff that looks similar to Psynergy! Aces has a story mode again, but it seems to play out on a world map-type thing, and doesn't really seem to have any areas like Golden Sun. It could work, but it'd take a lot more work than the GBA engine did. If they were to make a Golden Sun for Switch, I think they'd probably make a new engine.
I think that's a better idea. I just hope they already made that engine but they are really busy with aces at the moment
 

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I think that's a better idea. I just hope they already made that engine but they are really busy with aces at the moment
Aces has the first story mode since Power Tour on GBA, the one that used the Golden Sun engine. So who knows? Maybe they’re looking back to their GBA days? Let’s hope!
 

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Aces has the first story mode since Power Tour on GBA, the one that used the Golden Sun engine. So who knows? Maybe they’re looking back to their GBA days? Let’s hope!
That could be a good sign. Maybe they’re starting to regain interest in RPGs.
 

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Add me to the support list. Really hoping that we get a new Golden Sun for Switch, seems like a perfect match.
 

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If Camelot reuse the engine from Mario Tennis Ace, the game would be like this in terms of navigation:

Some people would like to have the BotW Engine, considering that they could change the Sheikah slate powers for Psyenergy.

The question is... Which engine would you prefer? The Aces one or the BoTW one? Or maybe would you prefer something similar like Octopath Traveler? (I know the engine is from Square Enix, but some people love the 2d graphics, and some people disliked the design of DD for not being like the GBA ones...).
 

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Graphics-wise, the Aces engine looks fine for the overworld, and would look awesome in an HD Golden Sun. The issue is that it's a world map, with each level connected by paths that you move down automatically, similar to a main series Mario game. I don't really see BotW's engine working at all, that's just not the kind of game Golden Sun is. Though I wouldn't mind if exploration was fully 3D in a hypothetical GS4, that would be cool! If they were to use the BotW engine for that, then random encounters could happen while you move around.

I do think that the best route would be a new engine, though. I'd also be alright if they decided to replicate the style of the GBA games.
 
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By the time we get more Smash news, i will have ran out of comics.

But whatever, Comic time!


Well at least we know where Isaac got his greed from.
 

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By the time we get more Smash news, i will have ran out of comics.

But whatever, Comic time!


Well at least we know where Isaac got his greed from.
Yeah, Kraden’s actions in Sol Sanctum are kind of selfish and criminal.
 

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"You mustn't give them the Elemental Stars!"
"Right, it would put the whole world at risk. We must protect them!"
"No, you just have to have PROOF they won't hurt ME first."
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A joke post, but the new Nintendo CEO has expressed he loved "Golf Story" so... the next game from Camelot will be Mario Golf 100% sure.

It was obvious but :sadeyes:
 

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I certainly wouldn't mind, as long as we get a new Golden Sun (or remakes!) The only issue in regards to the engine is that the two games aren't as similar as the GBA games were. The GBA Mario sports games actually operate as RPGs - as you can see in these screenshots...



...they look and operate pretty similarily to Golden Sun. You explore areas, and the Golf one even has an overworld, but instead of doing battles, it's tennis or golf matches - there's even stuff that looks similar to Psynergy! Aces has a story mode again, but it seems to play out on a world map-type thing, and doesn't really seem to have any areas like Golden Sun. It could work, but it'd take a lot more work than the GBA engine did. If they were to make a Golden Sun for Switch, I think they'd probably make a new engine.
Ahhh I absolutely loved Power Tour!!! Played it so many times, that RPG mode was golden and the Power Shots were quite nifty (although the ultimate Volcano shot sucked so much for all the effort required to get it). I was more of a dragon shot person.

I was excited to find out that Aces had a story mode but then immediately disappointed to learn that it wasn't like the GBA one <.<

If Aces was similar to Power Tour, I'd be all down for Golden Sun remake/sequel using the same engine but now I doubt it.
 

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I love Power Tour as well! I had basically the same reaction as you did to Aces - I was hoping that when they said the story mode was returning, you'd have your new kid protagonist work their way up an academy again, raising stats and exploring, but it seems like the only part in Aces' story mode that's the same is that it has a story. Maybe someday!
 

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A joke post, but the new Nintendo CEO has expressed he loved "Golf Story" so... the next game from Camelot will be Mario Golf 100% sure.

It was obvious but :sadeyes:
I mean, if they do make a Mario Golf game in line with Golf Story, that would be an RPG. So it would give them an engine for Golden Sun...

Better than nothing.
 

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A joke post, but the new Nintendo CEO has expressed he loved "Golf Story" so... the next game from Camelot will be Mario Golf 100% sure.

It was obvious but :sadeyes:
It’s inevitable really. I’m still hopeful, but I think Mario Golf will come before Golden Sun, if Golden Sun ever even happens.
 

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I mean, if they do make a Mario Golf game in line with Golf Story, that would be an RPG. So it would give them an engine for Golden Sun...

Better than nothing.
Well, the only thing they have in common are the fact both games have some stats (and, well, the emotion faces...). Sadly, they would need to work all the combat system.
 

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Well, the only thing they have in common are the fact both games have some stats (and, well, the emotion faces...). Sadly, they would need to work all the combat system.
If nothing else, maybe a return to the RPG format would inspire them to return to Golden Sun. I don't think it's going to happen, though.
 
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I don't have witty jokes to put here so im just gonna post the comic:


Hey, guys, maybe if you hadn’t been so caught up in internal monologuing, you would’ve paid better attention to that ridiculously catchy song that’s supposed to lead y'all through the Lost Woods.
 
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Time to repost the moveset I made for Smash 4.
:GCA::GCA::GCA:-Downward slash, the double forward-moving slash
:GCU:+:GCA:- Casts a weak , small rock projectile with no knockback that lasts for a short while
:GCR:+:GCA:-Uses Punji, casting a bamboo that sprouts from the ground.
:GCD:+:GCA:-Uses Growth to cast grass which sprouts from below Isaac
:GCCU:+:GCA:-Gaia. A shower of Venus energy and boulders rain closely upon the enemy.
:GCCR:+:GCA:-Thorn. A field of spiked vines sprout out from the ground in front of Isaac. Does not deal much knockback and lasts for a few moments. It does not hurt Isaac, meaning he can use Thorn as a temporary over.
:GCCD:+:GCA:-Spire.A stalagmite is cast twice. Where the direction held is down-right or down left during these two castings determines where the Spires is casts from, whether it is directly in front of Isaac or behind for for the two castinsg. Thing something sorta like Lucas's Down-Smash.
Aerial:GCA:- Cast a rock wall in front of him.
Aerial+:GCR:+:GCA:- Halt. Temporarily stops an opponent mid-movement, stunning them and letting them fall down for a brief movement in an helpless state
Aerial+:GCD:+:GCA:-Pound. Casts a magical giant hand that pounds the opponent below Isaac. Can be used to spike enemies.
Aerial+:GCL:+:GCA:-Force. Has good knockback. It involves casting a giant magical fists that leaves after-images behind it
Aerial+:GCU:+:GCA:-Upwards kick followed by Isaac casting thorny vines above him
:GCZ:+:GCZ:-Sends out a Magical Giant hand after opponent to grab them. Has great range. The pummel would be the Hand crushing the opponent multiple times
:GCZ:+:GCR:-Front-Slap. Slaps off the opponent, knocking them off forwards.
:GCZ:+:GCU:-Catch-The Hand throws the opponent upwards
:GCZ:+:GCD:-Pound. The Hand just crushes the opponent on the stage with a flat hand. Causes the opponent to bounce.
:GCZ:+:GCL:-Back-Slap-Same as Front-Slap except of course, done backwards.

Special Moves
:GCB:-Move- works similar to how it did in Brawl, except much smaller, dealing damage and with far less knockback. However, it does have several expanded abilities such as the ability to grab and throw opponents in mid-air.Press :GCB: once to activate Move. Whilst it is still active, press:GCB: before it disappears in order to grab the opponent. If successful, one has a short period of time to control the Hand whilst still holding:GCB: before being forced to throw them. One can throw them in any different direction.

:GCR:+:GCB:-Great Wall-Chargeable move. The level of charge that is held determines the distance in which Isaac creates the wall from him as well as its power in terms of damage dealt and knockback given. Great for immediately stopping all momentum of the opponent if they end up in contact with it, as they end up stunned and any damage would be absorbed by the wall. A key move in limiting offensive approach

:GCU:+:GCB:-Wild Growth- A great, thick tangle of vines ends up sprouting from a yellow portal made out of Venus energy. Very useful anti-air attack and the primary recovery method that Isaac would use. After Wild Growth stops, Isaac can the climb the vine in order to gain ground. Does not cause helpless state. Can still attack whilst climbing, however, Isaac can only attack with his sword with the:GCA: button. Another key anti-air move due to its great reach. Useful for attacking opponents directly above you.

:GCD:+:GCB:-Quake- The floor that Isaac is on ends up shaking. Opponents that are on the floor or in close proximity are send upwards, bouncing three times before being knocked up upwards

Final Smash

Judgement


As for his gameplay, I expect Isaac's gameplay to be based around anti-air zoning and ground dominance by limiting offensive approaches, heavily relying on his magical hand and his other techniques to bring the opponent down to earth. Whilst he'll be more of a grounded character, I don't expect that he will be heavily relying on mobility as it would be below-average. Rather, he stands his ground and uses techniques such as Quake, Rockfall, Spires and Growth to control and dominate on his own terms.
 

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It's a little quiet in here.

So, April has come and gone. Here's May. Only a little over a month until we get more Smash news. I remain cautiously optimistic about any mention of Golden Sun in Smash whatsoever.
 

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I'm alternating between "yes, Isaac is absolutely going to get in" and "no, Isaac has no chance, the world sucks".
 
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