Nintendo 3DS

[Wave⁂]

Full list of $80 NES games:

Super Mario Bros.
Donkey Kong Jr.
Balloon Fight
Ice Climber
The Legend of Zelda
Wrecking Crew
Mario Open Golf
Mario & Yoshi
Metroid
Zelda: Adventures of Link

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Steep price yo. "

 

[ZIO]

You people do realize that you also paid to get to play the 3DS before a good majority of folks?

But you want to couple the $80 into just the NES games (let not forget the GBA game;s we will be receiving).

When you buy a product upon release, I would assume it's understood that being an early adopter would mean getting screwed in the future in some way.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

I think 80 was a typo, it's 8. I was just being dumb ;[

 

[ZIO]

I don't think you understand why he said $80 NES games, then.

 

[Zankoku]

The difference is $90 from original price, and we're still missing the SNES games that are pending Christmas.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Oh are those the ambassador games?

 

[theeboredone]

Well, personally, I'd rather not be experimented on lol. Whether it's 599 US Dollars, random price reduction a few months after release, or dealing with the RROD. I'd prefer for a stable model to come out more than anything else.

 

[Zankoku]

I purchase on necessity. The necessity in this case was "I need a portable system that's newer than Game Boy Color."

 

[Luigitoilet]

Er, the 3DS is "unstable"? I've never heard that one before. The price slash has nothing to do with the quality of the system.

But yeah. The people who bought the 3DS at the original price tag really have no place to complain. You bought it, you knew there weren't going to be any games for a long time. Stop whining. I know asking people on the internet to stop whining is an exercise in futility but there you go.

Also, What does "being experimented on" mean?

 

[OmegaXXII]

I purchase on necessity. The necessity in this case was "I need a portable system that's newer than Game Boy Color."

Exactly what I've had in mind.

Truth is; I haven't really played heavily on a Nintendo handheld since I had a Game Boy Color with Pokemon Blue/Silver, since then Ive never really cared about any of the newer system, I've skipped over so many that it would be crazy just to go back and "try" to catch up again, that's why I've been looking into a 3DS simple because "it's there".

 

[Zankoku]

To be fair, the only major iterations we've missed are GBA and DS. DSi's like, a half-step.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yes but there's been so many games that I've missed, I simply don't want to hunt them down and go back and try them all, it's more convinient to have a 3DS since I believe many of the "good" games are on the e-shop I believe plus it's currently on the market so...yea.

 

[Sariku]

Er, the 3DS is "unstable"? I've never heard that one before. The price slash has nothing to do with the quality of the system.

But yeah. The people who bought the 3DS at the original price tag really have no place to complain. You bought it, you knew there weren't going to be any games for a long time. Stop whining. I know asking people on the internet to stop whining is an exercise in futility but there you go.

Also, What does "being experimented on" mean?

I'm not going to complain as complaining will accomplish absolutely nothing, but I definitely do believe that other early adopters and myself have a place to be angry or frustrated about it. We have the right to "whine" (as long as they're not obnoxious about it). You buy a console at launch not just for the new feeling of being the first group of people to experience a new piece of technology, but also because you expect Nintendo and other developers to deliver those quality games. Sure, I knew that there wasn't much at launch, but this isn't it.

It's the fact that developers are canning their games, or putting them on hiatus, because there are not enough units being sold. The units aren't being sold because there aren't games on the console. So these quality games that was promised to us by not just Nintendo, but many companies may never come out. I understand how a business works, but being frustrated about this is 100% viable.

When the ambassador program was announced (which I'm glad we're getting something at least for being an early adopter), you also really want to hope that Nintendo's quality game promise carries over to the downloadable titles, whether we pay for them or not. And some of those NES games are quality games, but I believe you can still feel cheated as most of these are games that many of us own multiple times over in some way, shape, or form.

So I'm not *****ing or whining. I may be complaining, because I feel like Nintendo could have put forth a much better effort in these titles we're receiving, but I am definitely frustrated. Anyone who is frustrated by it has the right to do so. As long as they're mature about it, I think it is wrong to call someone out on it because, face it, people knew what they were getting into, but no one thought that the 3DS would have this lukewarm a reception. At least not anyone I spoke to.

Anyways, I'll be downloading all ten of these when they are up and try to have as much fun with them as possible. Here is to hoping that the GBA games promised aren't as disappointing. If they give me Emerald (unlikely, IMO) then I'll be a happy camper.

 

[Wave⁂]

Exactly what I've had in mind.

Truth is; I haven't really played heavily on a Nintendo handheld since I had a Game Boy Color with Pokemon Blue/Silver, since then Ive never really cared about any of the newer system, I've skipped over so many that it would be crazy just to go back and "try" to catch up again, that's why I've been looking into a 3DS simple because "it's there".

Same with me, as well. I can't count the number of DS

Spoiler

THE "R" WORD

I played because I didn't have a DS. I couldn't even finish Professor Layton and the Something Box because the last puzzle needed me to use the microphone.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm not going to complain as complaining will accomplish absolutely nothing, but I definitely do believe that other early adopters and myself have a place to be angry or frustrated about it. We have the right to "whine" (as long as they're not obnoxious about it). You buy a console at launch not just for the new feeling of being the first group of people to experience a new piece of technology, but also because you expect Nintendo and other developers to deliver those quality games. Sure, I knew that there wasn't much at launch, but this isn't it.

It's the fact that developers are canning their games, or putting them on hiatus, because there are not enough units being sold. The units aren't being sold because there aren't games on the console. So these quality games that was promised to us by not just Nintendo, but many companies may never come out. I understand how a business works, but being frustrated about this is 100% viable.

When the ambassador program was announced (which I'm glad we're getting something at least for being an early adopter), you also really want to hope that Nintendo's quality game promise carries over to the downloadable titles, whether we pay for them or not. And some of those NES games are quality games, but I believe you can still feel cheated as most of these are games that many of us own multiple times over in some way, shape, or form.

So I'm not *****ing or whining. I may be complaining, because I feel like Nintendo could have put forth a much better effort in these titles we're receiving, but I am definitely frustrated. Anyone who is frustrated by it has the right to do so. As long as they're mature about it, I think it is wrong to call someone out on it because, face it, people knew what they were getting into, but no one thought that the 3DS would have this lukewarm a reception. At least not anyone I spoke to.

Anyways, I'll be downloading all ten of these when they are up and try to have as much fun with them as possible. Here is to hoping that the GBA games promised aren't as disappointing. If they give me Emerald (unlikely, IMO) then I'll be a happy camper.

GBA Games

• Yoshi's Island™: Super Mario™ Advance 3
• Mario Kart™: Super Circuit
• Metroid™ Fusion
• WarioWare™, Inc.: Mega Microgame$
• Mario vs. Donkey Kong™

NES Games

• Super Mario Bros.™
• Donkey Kong Jr.™
• Balloon Fight™
• Ice Climber™
• The Legend of Zelda™
• Metroid™
• NES Open Tournament Golf
• Wrecking Crew
• Zelda II - The Adventure of Link
• Yoshi

 

[Luigitoilet]

I'm not going to complain as complaining will accomplish absolutely nothing, but I definitely do believe that other early adopters and myself have a place to be angry or frustrated about it. We have the right to "whine" (as long as they're not obnoxious about it). You buy a console at launch not just for the new feeling of being the first group of people to experience a new piece of technology, but also because you expect Nintendo and other developers to deliver those quality games. Sure, I knew that there wasn't much at launch, but this isn't it.

It's the fact that developers are canning their games, or putting them on hiatus, because there are not enough units being sold. The units aren't being sold because there aren't games on the console. So these quality games that was promised to us by not just Nintendo, but many companies may never come out. I understand how a business works, but being frustrated about this is 100% viable.

When the ambassador program was announced (which I'm glad we're getting something at least for being an early adopter), you also really want to hope that Nintendo's quality game promise carries over to the downloadable titles, whether we pay for them or not. And some of those NES games are quality games, but I believe you can still feel cheated as most of these are games that many of us own multiple times over in some way, shape, or form.

So I'm not *****ing or whining. I may be complaining, because I feel like Nintendo could have put forth a much better effort in these titles we're receiving, but I am definitely frustrated. Anyone who is frustrated by it has the right to do so. As long as they're mature about it, I think it is wrong to call someone out on it because, face it, people knew what they were getting into, but no one thought that the 3DS would have this lukewarm a reception. At least not anyone I spoke to.

Anyways, I'll be downloading all ten of these when they are up and try to have as much fun with them as possible. Here is to hoping that the GBA games promised aren't as disappointing. If they give me Emerald (unlikely, IMO) then I'll be a happy camper.

In regards to devs canning their games, is this actually a thing beyond Capcom with MML3? Not being snarky here, I'm genuinely curious. Are there a significant amount of canned and delayed games for the 3DS because of the sales? I'm not aware of them.

In my personal case, I am much more upset about MML3's cancellation than I am the price slash/ambassador program, but that is not really Nintendo's fault.

And to be fair, when the 3DS came out it was quite apparent that nothing substantial would arrive until Zelda, and then nothing substantial again until the holiday season. I'm sure nobody expected a price slash between then and now, but I still find it hard to sympathize with early buyers TOO much, and this is coming from a day one purchaser.

The Ambassador games could have been a little better. I'm never going to play Golf or Yoshi's Cookie (that is what "Yoshi" is, right? that puzzle game?) or Ice Climber. But, I dunno. I don't really know how to drive my point home any further. It's just a matter of perspective. To me, it's not a very big deal and the onus is on me because I bought a handheld that had no games. Nintendo could have very well gave us early adopters nothing at all.

And I also have a bit of a bias, because I also never had a GBA or a DS. I have a ton of old games to catch up on while I wait for the 3DS ones.

 

[Sariku]

Not all of these games are good, or at least games I'd ever buy, but here is a Kotaku article about it: http://kotaku.com/5822519/whats-with-all-the-cancelled-3ds-games

Metal Gear Solid 3DS is being delayed, and they're not giving info on that (at some upcoming game show, the only MGS games showing up are Peace Walker HD and collection, no love for Rising or 3DS for some reason). Obviously Legends was canned, which doesn't bother me more than the fact that big companies canning games with such money making characters is a real bad look. If CAPCOM has to cancel a MEGAMAN game (sure, they're not what they used to be but it'd still sell for a profit), what are other developers thinking?

I can't wait for Mario Kart 7 and Sin and Punishment 3- er, Kid Icarus Uprising, and some other games look promising, but multiple companies promised things for the 3DS and them now looking bleak is a really bad sign. Even for the future of Nintendo in my eyes. Now I'm thinking about not purchasing a Wiiu on launch because while there were loads of 3rd Party games promised, I'm not feeling confident that they'll come out anymore.

This post wasn't nearly as clear as my last one. Sorry about this. lol.

 

[Dodongo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games

Things are not as bleak as kotaku or IGN would have you believe.

 

[Zankoku]

Now I'm thinking about not purchasing a Wiiu on launch because while there were loads of 3rd Party games promised, I'm not feeling confident that they'll come out anymore.

rofl, it'd be hilarious if the promised 3rd party games weren't released on the Wii U considering they'd be close to a year old by the time the Wii U launches.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Dragon Quest 3DS!?! When was that announced?

 

[Sariku]

But what are games that people actually want in that long list? The ones that stand out to me as games that could be quality are:

Animal Crossing (even if the series is awful)
Cave Story 3D (or people will just buy it for cheap in the e-shop)
Conduit (maybe..?)
Contra (tba tba tba tba doesn't look promising)
de Blob (more tba tba tba tba)
Dragon Quest
KI Uprising
Kingdom Hearts
Luigi's Mansion 2
MK7
Ninja Gaiden (tba tba tba tba)
Paper Mario
Prof. Layton (actually excited about this)
Prof. Layton VS. Ace Attorney (also <3)
SF64
SSB
SML3D

That's a fairly nice list of games I guess, but half of them don't look very promising. :/

 

[Zankoku]

Shinobi looked pretty solid too, and I'm interested in Rhythm Thief and 999's successor.

Sariku, you listed off 16 games o_O
That's like, $500-$800 worth alone. Do you really need such a huge games library to justify a portable game system purchase?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Games I think are interesting on that list

Tekken 3D: Prime Edition
Super Smash Bros
Super Mario 3D Land
Star Fox 64 3D
Sonic Generations
Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure (Haters Gonna Hate)
Rune Factory 4
Rayman Origins
Paper Mario
Mario Kart 7
Luigi's Mansion 2
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
Harvest Moon: The Tale of Two Towns (Already preordered)
Dragon Quest
Contra
Animal Crossing 3DS

Edit: I want me some Bomberman 3DS. Hudson, uncancel it now!

 

[OmegaXXII]

Shinobi is on there?

Personally I'm looking forward to these:

•Pokemon Black/White
•Paper Mario 3DS
•Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright (if localized)
•Mario Kart 7
•Fire Emblem-Shadow Dragon
•Street Fighter 3DS

Any other good games, any RPG's would be nice or puzzle like.

 

[Sariku]

Shinobi looked pretty solid too, and I'm interested in Rhythm Thief and 999's successor.

Sariku, you listed off 16 games o_O
That's like, $500-$800 worth alone. Do you really need such a huge games library to justify a portable game system purchase?

Those aren't games that I want. I'm pretty sure I said it in that post, but if not, those were only games that I think could be released and be well-received and purchased.

The only game I want on that list is MK7. :/

Maybe KIU.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I didn't list Street Fighter because I already own it, same with OOT 3D

 

[Sariku]

And I didn't list any game that was already out. I only own SSFIV3DS and LoZOOT3D. And some downloadable stuff from my DSi.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I forgot about Kid Icarus: Uprising, I also didn't mention that most of my games would be DLC such as Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire.

Anyway, am I able to play Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver on the 3DS?

 

[Life]

Yep. 3DS is backwards-compatible with DS.

Is SFIV3D worth it, given that I don't have any other system (AFAIK) that has SFIV?

 

[Zankoku]

I kinda want to get Pac-Man and Galaga Dimensions, since Galaga 3D Impact looks like it's based on Galaga Destination Earth, which was a surprisingly good rail-shooter version of Galaga.

InferiorityComplex: Do you like Street Fighter games? 3D graphics and exclusivity won't do anything to make you like them more.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yep. 3DS is backwards-compatible with DS.

Is SFIV3D worth it, given that I don't have any other system (AFAIK) that has SFIV?

YES!! I'm glad you confirmed this, I've been meaning to play SoulSilver since it's a remake of my childhood favorite; Pokemon Silver.

I'm guessing SFIV3D is the same as the console versions no??

 

[theeboredone]

Er, the 3DS is "unstable"? I've never heard that one before. The price slash has nothing to do with the quality of the system.

But yeah. The people who bought the 3DS at the original price tag really have no place to complain. You bought it, you knew there weren't going to be any games for a long time. Stop whining. I know asking people on the internet to stop whining is an exercise in futility but there you go.

Also, What does "being experimented on" mean?

Sorry, I was half asleep when I typed that. I don't wanna say "unstable" as much as given Nintendo's portable history, you can expect a revision to come out. Whether it's a thinner more efficient 3DS or something with 2 analog sticks. Gameboy started out in 1989, went through a revision in 1995, one in 1996, and then the color in 1998. The DS has had its versions, and I expect nothing less from the 3DS.

Also, "experimented on" was also poor choice of words. What I was trying to say is, I know there will be a revision in the future, and I don't want to be toyed around with by essentially buying an inferior version of the 3DS. I mean, props to anyone who buys it, cause they get a 2-3 year head start on it, but unless someone offered it to me for dirt cheap, I wouldn't consider buying it.

Sales can be blamed on poor launch titles, but I'm surprised no one has considered bad economic times. The Vita could come out with Uncharted, Resistance, LBP, Tekken, SF, DMC, and almost every big game and it would still do bad imo because that's the tough times we live in.

I don't think the 3DS will have a revision yet, and I do think having an analog add on is a bit weird. Would they use the IR sensor on the 3DS to connect it? Then wouldn't that mean the Analog needs its own batteries? If they do attach it, I wonder how they would make it not look or feel awkward. But yeah, for once I'm gonna say these are just false rumors and nothing more.

 

[Life]

InferiorityComplex: Do you like Street Fighter games? 3D graphics and exclusivity won't do anything to make you like them more.

It's more like "I don't have much access to non-SSB fighters, is SFIV3D a good entry point into the genre?" I did play the Gamestop demo and thought it was pretty good, but I wasn't sure how long it'll last me. Maybe I should get a used copy?

 

[Wave⁂]

Personally I'm looking forward to these:

•Pokemon Black/White

wa t

 

[OmegaXXII]

wa t

I know it's already out, what I meant to was that I'm looking forward to playing those games since I don't own a 3DS yet .

 

[Zankoku]

I think he was more confused because you listed off a bunch of 3DS games and two DS games... though Pokémon 5 stands out more.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yeah, I listed both existing games and titles that have yet to come out.

I also heard the new Pac-Man's are good, I've played Pac-Man Championship edition and it's quite good, it even has a "speed mode".

 

[Zankoku]

Yeah, I listed both existing games and titles that have yet to come out.

No, I think you're missing the point.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Alright, now I'm puzzled myself.

Still to the point, I plan on getting past DS titles as well as current 3DS titles, any new ones that catch my eye will be one that list as well.