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Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - Available Today!

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Yeah. Don't let some random guy on TV Tropes be justified on putting "Fandom Rivalry" on the YMMV page. That's like, the worst trope in the whole site.
Funny thing is, there isn't a Fandom Rivalry entry on either NASB nor MVS' page for each other. They're both considered Friendly Fandoms instead. I just wish it was a little friendlier.
 

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I feel like being angry at MVS for fandom's crappy behaviour (not that I've actually seen any of that. Like. At all.) is kinda silly. I'm a fan of plenty of things that have sucky fandoms. For what it's worth the two dev teams have been nothing but supportive to each other.

This isn't me saying you have to care about MVS ethier BTW. Reasons like the microtransactions or not caring about the roster are valid. But turning this into some kind of weird fandom war is doing noone any good.
I've definitely seen some MVS fans who insist on ****ting on NASB at every opportunity. They're few and far between in my experience, but rest assured they are VERY obnoxious to deal with.
But yeah, not worth smearing the entire fandom over. Most of 'em are just trying to enjoy their game and probably don't even care about ours.
 

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But yeah, not worth smearing the entire fandom over. Most of 'em are just trying to enjoy their game and probably don't even care about ours.
True, one plus to MVS being much more successful is that it'd attract people unaware of any controversy over NASB's lack of content at launch.
 

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I've definitely seen some MVS fans who insist on ****ting on NASB at every opportunity. They're few and far between in my experience, but rest assured they are VERY obnoxious to deal with.
But yeah, not worth smearing the entire fandom over. Most of 'em are just trying to enjoy their game and probably don't even care about ours.
Oh I definitely don't dobut they exist. Every game will have its toxic defnders like that hell, smash brothers itself is pretty bad for that. Best just to not let such a niche part of it ruin the fun for everyone else.
 

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Oh I definitely don't dobut they exist. Every game will have its toxic defnders like that hell, smash brothers itself is pretty bad for that. Best just to not let such a niche part of it ruin the fun for everyone else.
It probably is harder to find them when they can no longer **** on NASB's lack of items and voices.

On the other hand, the games' playercounts are still enough ammunition for some people to continue ****ting on NASB.
 

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People obsessed with calling every game that isn't Fortnite dead don't bother checking playercounts on other platforms. Most likely because they can't.
Pretty much. I would only call NASB "dead" when the developers pull the plug on the game, end all post-launch updates, and straight up abandon it. Although in that situation NASB won't truly die because as shown with Kart Racers a sequel will surely be on the way.
 

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The term "dead game" is meaningless. It means less and less as the Internet means there are more communities for games.

There are even active playerbases for games, mainly MMO's and Shooters, that have had their severs officially shut down. So even being "killed" doesn't matter as much anymore.
 

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The term "dead game" is meaningless. It means less and less as the Internet means there are more communities for games.

There are even active playerbases for games, mainly MMO's and Shooters, that have had their severs officially shut down. So even being "killed" doesn't matter as much anymore.
I personally blame Twitch for the term's popularity. A lot of people seem to use its front page to determine which games they're allowed to like, so when a game slips off of it, it's officially "lame" and "cringe" and bla bla bla.
 

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Although I believe that Hugh is coming within the next week or two, and with him we'll get crossplay and a lot of changes and fixes. So many in fact that the patch notes has been said to be 26 pages long.
 

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I feel NASB did live up to the hype, but a lot of that hype was coming from the wrong audience - people unfamiliar with competitive platform fighters, and people unfamiliar with the current state of the Nickelodeon brand. (especailly within crossovers)
In addition, I think some of these people didn't realize:

A. If you're playing a fighter that isn't SF/Tekken/MK/Smash/MvC or DBFZ depending on the era, you have to deal with the game being niche. King of Fighters, Melty Blood, Guilty Gear pre-Strive, Under Night, etc.'s fanbases were used to playing niche games, but not Smash fans.
B. Even if NASB had more time and money, it still would have less content than SSBU, which was the result of the Switch being weak enough to port Wii U models over and some of the missing veterans being low-effort clones.
 

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NASB was just a classic example of an overhyped game.
I think "failed to meet impossible expectations while simultaneously failing to meet certain obvious expectations due to crunch and budget" is a better way to put it. I know it's not worth bringing up MVS in here but while I think that game will always have a healthy future and large fanbase (for now anyways.....), NASB has had my heart from the start and no naysayer is gonna change that
 

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GameMill who never had that much hope in the project in the first place.
Technically GameMill not giving them enough funds isn't about apathy. It's about the company being a budget publisher in the first place.
 

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I feel NASB did live up to the hype, but a lot of that hype was coming from the wrong audience - people unfamiliar with competitive platform fighters, and people unfamiliar with the current state of the Nickelodeon brand. (especailly within crossovers)
It didn't help that they revealed it right in the middle of the period between Kazuya and Sora's reveals, which was a spot where Smash hype was an all time high.
 

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Oh cool, so we might be getting Hugh next week? Awesome!

Also, I'm wondering if Hugh's going to get a dedicated trailer alongside the showcase, or if it's just going to be the latter; while technically he was officially revealed in the previous trailer, the only bit of gameplay we got with him there was that shot of him on a motorcycle, and most of the trailer was moreso dedicated to Jenny.

I guess we'll see next week!
 

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And now it's officially confirmed. Hugh is coming on August 5th, along with the fabled 26 patch note patch, which I myself have dubbed the "Mega Patch". This will be the biggest patch ever for the game, and this might be where crossplay is finally added.
 

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So Hugh may not be releasing this week after all, we're just getting a preview of him?
It's evo week and this is proablly gonna be the first EVO in a bit with reveals attached. They proablly wanted to get in while all eyes where there.

The switch listing did have him for the 5th so I still think we get him. I wouldn't look too much into the wording.
 

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Do we know its being done just on twitter or at evo? I know there's some evo panels tommrow (I think they're doing reveals earlier this year rather than just on Sundays like usual
 
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Hugh Neutron at Evo being a real thing that's actually happening is hilarious, ahahaha

Even though the game has been out for a while now, the charm/silliness of Nick characters in a solid fighting game will always be hype to me. It's nice having a reason to pick this back up again
 
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