Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[NonSpecificGuy]

I still think the Chorus Kids as an Ice Climber Style character but with 3 of them and with Rythm Mechanics sounds like a chaotic mess, unorthodox, and fun as **** and it’s a shame that they were scrapped.

 

[Dinoman96]

I kinda doubt Chorus Kids were going to be multiple characters at once like that, that's the ICs' gimmick.

I think they were probably going to be like Duck Hunt or Banjo & Kazooie in that they were technically just one character themed to look like multiple.

 

[Eldrake]

Here's an interesting question: If you could add an unorthodox pick like Piranha Plant from any series that currently has a fighter, who would you pick, and how do you think they would play? If you hate picks like Piranha Plant, you can refer to a series like Fire Emblem, Pokémon, or Final Fantasy where there the competition is so steep that even major characters within the series have no chance at being added. I will give the caveat though that your pick must be one of the lesser requested characters, so no Lyn, Sceptile, or Sephiroth.

For my first unorthodox pick, I'll go with Gemini Man. He'd be a mix between Rosalina & Luma, and the Ice Climbers. Gemini Man always starts out with a clone that mimics his every move like the other Ice Climber, but isn't the cause of stupid infinite like Luma. If either the player or the AI controlled clone gets KOed, or if one of them reaches 100%, the other one becomes the "real" one, and is now controlled by the player (the first Gemini Man to reach 100% instantly dies). The remaining Gemini Man will be solo for the rest of its stock, gaining access to the Gemini Laser, but not much else.

Its moveset would be an amalgation of various space pirates across the Metroid series, and there's enough alternately colored Space Pirates to draw alt costume palettes from.

Also its up-special would make it equip a jetpack. And if it's damaged sufficiently in the middle of the move, kamikaze into the stage.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Here's an interesting question: If you could add an unorthodox pick like Piranha Plant from any series that currently has a fighter, who would you pick, and how do you think they would play? If you hate picks like Piranha Plant, you can refer to a series like Fire Emblem, Pokémon, or Final Fantasy where there the competition is so steep that even major characters within the series have no chance at being added. I will give the caveat though that your pick must be one of the lesser requested characters, so no Lyn, Sceptile, or Sephiroth.

For my first unorthodox pick, I'll go with Gemini Man. He'd be a mix between Rosalina & Luma, and the Ice Climbers. Gemini Man always starts out with a clone that mimics his every move like the other Ice Climber, but isn't the cause of stupid infinite like Luma. If either the player or the AI controlled clone gets KOed, or if one of them reaches 100%, the other one becomes the "real" one, and is now controlled by the player (the first Gemini Man to reach 100% instantly dies). The remaining Gemini Man will be solo for the rest of its stock, gaining access to the Gemini Laser, but not much else.

Only the cool kids will understand my reasoning

Smoke time

 

[SharkLord]

Only the cool kids will understand my reasoning
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Smoke time

aaaaaaaaaa
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no
please no
i hated that stupid oil mechanic in the boss fight
never again

 

[CannonStreak]

aaaaaaaaaa
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no
please no
i hated that stupid oil mechanic in the boss fight
never again

You can never handle the oil in that fight, can you? I sure can.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

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Its moveset would be an amalgation of various space pirates across the Metroid series, and there's enough alternately colored Space Pirates to draw alt costume palettes from.

Also its up-special would make it equip a jetpack. And if it's damaged sufficiently in the middle of the move, kamikaze into the stage.

I could see a decent fighter using the Silver variant as a base.

 

[Deleted member]

Ah someone beat me to it, but this is some cool stuff
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/comments/iaaik9

 

[Calamitas]

Fun fact: Did you know that in only a few weeks, it'll have been exactly a year since the last full-scale Nintendo Direct that wasn't game-specific or a mini? It's currently 347 days since the last one! Time sure does fly.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Ah someone beat me to it, but this is some cool stuff
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/comments/iaaik9

This is the closest we're getting to Yu-Gi-Oh in Smash, isn't it?

Fun fact: Did you know that in only a few weeks, it'll have been exactly a year since the last full-scale Nintendo Direct that wasn't game-specific or a mini? It's currently 347 days since the last one! Time sure does fly.

There's a part of me that wonders if the next Direct will coincide with that, and I can't tell if that would be funny or sad...

 

[Perkilator]

Fun fact: Did you know that in only a few weeks, it'll have been exactly a year since the last full-scale Nintendo Direct that wasn't game-specific or a mini? It's currently 347 days since the last one! Time sure does fly.

No full Direct...347 days.....

 

[cashregister9]

Fun fact: Did you know that in only a few weeks, it'll have been exactly a year since the last full-scale Nintendo Direct that wasn't game-specific or a mini? It's currently 347 days since the last one! Time sure does fly.

We are going to go a whole year without a full direct won't we?

 

[PeridotGX]

There's a part of me that wonders if the next Direct will coincide with that, and I can't tell if that would be funny or sad...

"It's been one full year since the last full direct! We apologize, and to compensate we have 366 announcements, one for each day without a direct".

only the first ten and last ten are anything of note. The rest is terrible filler.

Announcement 248: Look at this rock in Pikmin 3 deluxe! We slightly increased it's texture!

 

[RawstyleEevee]

Ah someone beat me to it, but this is some cool stuff
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/comments/iaaik9

Calling it now the 3 Eldrazi titans are going to be Melee Fox, Brawl Meta Knight and Smash 4 Bayonetta xD

 

[Dinoman96]

Here's another fun fact: in only a few weeks, it will be one year since we last got a third party character announced for Smash (Terry)

Since then, we've only gotten two Nintendo characters: Byleth and Min Min

 

[SKX31]

I kinda doubt Chorus Kids were going to be multiple characters at once like that, that's the ICs' gimmick.

I think they were probably going to be like Duck Hunt or Banjo & Kazooie in that they were technically just one character themed to look like multiple.

I could've honestly seen that happening had Sakurai's original intent of having Diddy paired with Dixie back in Brawl become a reality. They ran into the ever-dreaded technical difficulties though, so yeah, there went that plan.

Had Dixie stayed with Diddy it would've changed Smash majorly - both casually and competitively. Casually / in terms of speculation, yeah that feels obvious. Competitively: Diddy was considered top tier in Brawl because he had the best shield in the game and two bananas instead of one on the field (which combined with glide-tossing allowed constant tricky pressure). He was top tier in Smash 4 too - especially towards the beginning with the "Hoo Hah" KO confirm.

We are going to go a whole year without a full direct won't we?

It's not neccessarily that that irks me personally, but their silence and them not indicating which methods they'd use to communicate. Had they announced that "We'll announce projects when they're close to ready and we'll allow our partners to showcase their projects in certain showcases" beforehand we'd at least know that they'd shadowdrop / use Partner Showcases.

 

[StrangeKitten]

Here's an interesting question: If you could add an unorthodox pick like Piranha Plant from any series that currently has a fighter, who would you pick, and how do you think they would play? If you hate picks like Piranha Plant, you can refer to a series like Fire Emblem, Pokémon, or Final Fantasy where there the competition is so steep that even major characters within the series have no chance at being added. I will give the caveat though that your pick must be one of the lesser requested characters, so no Lyn, Sceptile, or Sephiroth.

For my first unorthodox pick, I'll go with Gemini Man. He'd be a mix between Rosalina & Luma, and the Ice Climbers. Gemini Man always starts out with a clone that mimics his every move like the other Ice Climber, but isn't the cause of stupid infinite like Luma. If either the player or the AI controlled clone gets KOed, or if one of them reaches 100%, the other one becomes the "real" one, and is now controlled by the player (the first Gemini Man to reach 100% instantly dies). The remaining Gemini Man will be solo for the rest of its stock, gaining access to the Gemini Laser, but not much else.

GENGAR!!!

I would LOVE Gengar! A ghost is one of my most wanted things in Smash. I think it would be really interesting if a ghost just randomly phased out sometimes, so attacks would wiff. Your suggestion of some attacks just not working is also a good way to do it. Balance it out with the ghost being the lightest character in the game, and you've got yourself a really neat glass cannon!

The most-discussed ghosts are Gengar, Mimikyu, and King Boo. Which leads into my unorthodox pick:

I mean, why not? People get annoyed by Pokemon and Mario having a lot of characters, why not another for Pac-Man instead? To be fair, the other ghosts have far more moveset potential, but I'm sure something could be figured out for Ghosts.

 

[Dinoman96]

We are going to go a whole year without a full direct won't we?

Insiders on Era have implied a General happening around the 28th two weeks from now.

 

[cashregister9]

Insiders on Era have implied a General happening around the 28th two weeks from now.

If those leaks are to be believed and my maths is correct then it will have been 360 days since a direct. just missing the 1 year mark which I find kinda hilarious

 

[Depressed Gengar]

There are so many older Pokémon that are left field that it's a shame they'll likely never get in. And plenty of them that have more merits than just being so left field that it's "funny". There's a good amount of Pokémon that are popular within their own series and have plenty of moveset potential. Yet we're just stuck with promotional pick of the generation, which, yeah, they can still be cool, but the fact that they're basically the only ones that stand a chance for Smash is lame.

 

[Deleted member]

Ah someone beat me to it, but this is some cool stuff
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/comments/iaaik9

wait **** I posted this in the entire wrong place ahhhh
meant to post it in the social thread
That’s what I get for not looking at the thread I’m posting in

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Spawnwave said on today's NewsWave that the Mario 3D collection will be announced within the next "week or two" and that it's coming out "sooner than people realize" 🧐👀

— HylianHero98 (@HylianHero98) August 15, 2020

Yet another confirmation of news coming potentially soon. Also some ppl on Era are theorizing that the 17th will be an announcement of an announcement for the Indie World. Ergo, announced that day, but the actual indie world airs anywhere from Tuesday to Thursday

 

[chocolatejr9]

I would LOVE Gengar! A ghost is one of my most wanted things in Smash. I think it would be really interesting if a ghost just randomly phased out sometimes, so attacks would wiff. Your suggestion of some attacks just not working is also a good way to do it. Balance it out with the ghost being the lightest character in the game, and you've got yourself a really neat glass cannon!

The most-discussed ghosts are Gengar, Mimikyu, and King Boo. Which leads into my unorthodox pick:

I mean, why not? People get annoyed by Pokemon and Mario having a lot of characters, why not another for Pac-Man instead? To be fair, the other ghosts have far more moveset potential, but I'm sure something could be figured out for Ghosts.

If we get the Pac-Man Ghosts, I don't want it to just be the original four: I want Spunky, Funky, Sue, and Glitchy along for the ride. Let's go full-on Bowser Jr. here!

wait **** I posted this in the entire wrong place ahhhh
meant to post it in the social thread
That’s what I get for not looking at the thread I’m posting in

If it makes you feel better, I didn't realise that was Magic: The Gathering until after I posted my response. Not the first time I mistook one for the other...

 

[SharkLord]

Spawnwave said on today's NewsWave that the Mario 3D collection will be announced within the next "week or two" and that it's coming out "sooner than people realize" 🧐👀

— HylianHero98 (@HylianHero98) August 15, 2020

Yet another confirmation of news coming potentially soon. Also some ppl on Era are theorizing that the 17th will be an announcement of an announcement for the Indie World. Ergo, announced that day, but the actual indie world airs anywhere from Tuesday to Thursday

1. Who is this
2. Is he credible
3. If not, why are we listening to him

 

[Calamitas]

Spawnwave said on today's NewsWave that the Mario 3D collection will be announced within the next "week or two" and that it's coming out "sooner than people realize" 🧐👀

— HylianHero98 (@HylianHero98) August 15, 2020

Yet another confirmation of news coming potentially soon. Also some ppl on Era are theorizing that the 17th will be an announcement of an announcement for the Indie World. Ergo, announced that day, but the actual indie world airs anywhere from Tuesday to Thursday

Haven't those 3D Mario remasters been "sooner than you might think" for quite a while now? At this point, they might as well be shadow-dropped.

1. Who is this
2. Is he credible
3. If not, why are we listening to him

Dude has a YT channel which is decently-sized, I think. I've heard his name a few times already, but IDK anything about his credibility. Only thing I do remember is him saying something like "Xenoblade Chronicles X won't be stuck on Wii U for long" a while ago, and. . . uh, yeah.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Haven't those 3D Mario remasters been "sooner than you might think" for quite a while now? At this point, they might as well be shadow-dropped.



Dude has a YT channel which is decently-sized, I think. I've heard his name a few times already, but IDK anything about his credibility. Only thing I do remember is him saying something like "Xenoblade Chronicles X won't be stuck on Wii U for long" a while ago, and. . . uh, yeah.

For the Xenoblade X thing, how long ago was that? Do you remember?

 

[Deleted member]

Fun fact: Did you know that in only a few weeks, it'll have been exactly a year since the last full-scale Nintendo Direct that wasn't game-specific or a mini? It's currently 347 days since the last one! Time sure does fly.

Damn. Time really does fly sometimes.

But if they have a direct on the anniversary of having no directs? That would be irony at its finest.

 

[Deleted member]

[twitter post]
Yet another confirmation of news coming potentially soon. Also some ppl on Era are theorizing that the 17th will be an announcement of an announcement for the Indie World. Ergo, announced that day, but the actual indie world airs anywhere from Tuesday to Thursday

At this rate, the real 3D Mario Collection will be the friends we made along the way.


As for Indie World speculation, I hope it comes soon. I like seeing what new Indie games will be shown off even if all of them aren't for my tastes.

 

[Calamitas]

For the Xenoblade X thing, how long ago was that? Do you remember?

I want to say that it was in 2018 or so? I'm not sure, since I didn't actually hear that for myself, and only heard second-hands accounts of it at best. It definitely was a while before even the announcement of XCDE, though.
Pretty sure we talked about it in the Elma thread when it was relevant, so you could do some digging there if you're curious.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I want to say that it was in 2018 or so? I'm not sure, since I didn't actually hear that for myself, and only heard second-hands accounts of it at best. It definitely was a while before even the announcement of XCDE, though.
Pretty sure we talked about it in the Elma thread when it was relevant, so you could do some digging there if you're curious.

I would imagine “soon” would be more than a year, and XCDE was announced almost a year ago alongside TMS Encore. I think X may be next for an announcement after Pikmin 3 Deluxe’s shadowdrop

esp considering COVID causing some delays

 

[SNEKeater]

As for SpawnWave, maybe Nintendo could announce the Mario Collection on Twitter this upcoming week, while the Direct would still happen (assuming the 28th thing it's real) the following week.

 

[Cosmic77]

I get that this person is moderately trustworthy, but...seriously, I feel like I could make a Twitter account today, say a few things about a fake Direct, and watch as people actually bring my posts here and ask if anyone thought I could be right.

 

[Knight Dude]

I get that this person is moderately trustworthy, but...seriously, I feel like I could make a Twitter account today, say a few things about a fake Direct, and watch as people actually bring my posts here and ask if anyone thought I could be right.

Then do it dude. No one's stopping you.

I'm actually kind of curious how'd it turn out.

 

[MooMew64]

Mario Remasters being dropped via Twitter would pretty much be the final nail in the coffin for Direct expectations for me personally.

Like, if a big General was coming, no way that wouldn't be in it.

 

[RileyXY1]

Mario Remasters being dropped via Twitter would pretty much be the final nail in the coffin for Direct expectations for me personally.

Like, if a big General was coming, no way that wouldn't be in it.

Yeah. If they drop something that big in a Twitter post then there probably won't be a direct.

 

[Deleted member]

Then do it dude. No one's stopping you.

I'm actually kind of curious how'd it turn out.

I mean now that he’s said it here I doubt it would work unless he really goes out of his way to make a fresh account and populate it.

 

[MooMew64]

I remember some people swearing by Spawn Wave last year but honestly have no idea if anything they say is accurate.

Regardless, Mario Remasters are a safe guess atm. Those and the 3D World port are the only parts of the leaks back in March that haven't come true yet, so assuming that those leaks are on the money (I personally believe they are) we'll probably see them pretty soon. The Mario Remasters probably aren't being launched as typical releases either: There's probably going to be either something more to it, or a nasty catch. Time will tell.

 

[Deleted member]

The Mario Remasters probably aren't being launched as typical releases either: There's probably going to be either something more to it, or a nasty catch. Time will tell.

inb4 it’s a subscription service

On a more serious note I think the most likely thing is that it’ll be a package deal with an option to buy individually. Then again if memory serves this level of porting has never been done before at once(especially for 3d games which are a pain to port/remaster) so it could go pretty much any way.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Mario remasters might be the genuinely big holiday releases so even announcing them in September for release in November is possible.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

Regardless, Mario Remasters are a safe guess atm. Those and the 3D World port are the only parts of the leaks back in March that haven't come true yet, so assuming that those leaks are on the money (I personally believe they are) we'll probably see them pretty soon. The Mario Remasters probably aren't being launched as typical releases either: There's probably going to be either something more to it, or a nasty catch. Time will tell.

I don't know... as far as I know, every single direct leak that even mentions Mario remasters have been proven false.