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Newcomer: 9-Volt

HiddenTiger

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I feel that I will get flamed for saying that this character inclusion isn't even a decent idea.

I know that I am going to be bombarded with negative responses,or the typical enthusiast comments containing the"Why because he is ___","Your an___", or theYou Don't have good taste"

But the fact of the matter is,a majority of these random charcters are just idiotic.Why would you want some random WTF character rather than a solid character?I seems as if our 'taste' in characters has deminished from a well thought out stand point to a more spontaneous level of desire.

Here is an example.I suggest a well thought character,such as Ira from Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu.Not only she is a female character,but one of the most popular lords from one of the most popular Fire Emblem games:

In my opinion,that would seem to be a solid character,rather than crap like this:

You would be suprised at the number of people who actually want this guy in the game due to his"Random Factor" or "Unique" playing style.

If you had a choice of the two,which would you pick? And awsome character(Ira),or a spontaneous insignificant character(Nook).

*waits for the flames*
And exactly who the hell do you think you are? What gives you the right to decide who is and isn't good enough for Smash Bros? For your information Mr. High-and-mighty, Tom Nook is easily a better choice than Ira or Eprain or whoever you want to say from Fire Emblem. Nook is the central character from an astoundingly popular and succesful franchise. Whoever that chick was is just one character in one game in one comparitively small franchise. But that's not the point of this thread.

9-Volt has just as much chance as anybody does. He's one of the most popular characters from the series, and being a Nintendo-themed character makes him a perfect fit for a Nintendo-themed game. You can't say that any Wario Ware character is more minor than any of the other ones, since all of them have the same formula of 5-second microgame patterns. There's nothing idiotic or WTF about this. I'm fine if you don't like the idea, but it really pisses me off that you keep presenting your opinion as fact.

And even then you couldn't even do that decently. You didn't put up any actual argument there at all. Your entire post essentially boils down to something like this:

"9-Volt sucks cuz I say so

this fire emblem chick is better

Tom nook sucks cuz i say so"

Either actually try to sound smart or stop spamming.
 

Bullet Bill

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Great Idead guys

I like this thread. 9-volt is a great idea that I didn't even think of. I think he will fit in well if he does make it. I think a good way to go may be like in SSB where certain characters were only available as an opponent in story mode. That way you could get to see more characters without having too many to choose from. I also think Dr crygor and Kat and Anna are good ideas
 
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And exactly who the hell do you think you are? What gives you the right to decide who is and isn't good enough for Smash Bros? For your information Mr. High-and-mighty, Tom Nook is easily a better choice than Ira or Eprain or whoever you want to say from Fire Emblem. Nook is the central character from an astoundingly popular and succesful franchise. Whoever that chick was is just one character in one game in one comparitively small franchise. But that's not the point of this thread.
Your blasphemous attempts to get at me never cease to humor me.So,who exactly do you think you are judging my taste based on my little rant?I didn't mentioned anything about development,I was just stating my personal opinions,you would have known if you would have read clearly.

Another thing is that you are telling me that Tom Nook would easily be a great character,yet you give me no reason to believe so.I game minor detail on why I believe her inclusion would be benefitual,you give nothing but your opinions.

Your judgment of a characters inclusion seem rather juvenil,stating only by popularity is the reason to make up for a horribly designed character.Do you actually believe that Animal Crossing is more popular than Fire Emblem? Fire Emblem is a peice of Nintendo's history,and Fire Emblem: Seisen of Keifu was one of the most revolutionary games in the Fire Emblem franchise.And i believe that Ira could be a logical choice,rather than a canine native to japan.

Fire Emblem has been with Nintendo sense the beggining,and has revolutionized turned based games...and it's successor series,the "Wars" series,made a great impact on both North America and Japan.I could even see Andy from Advance Wars make it into the game rather than nook,because he was the main character from the series up until Advance Wars Dual Strike.Even then,there are sill plenty of great characters from Intelligent Systems.

I rather have a character based of history,rather than fadability.

9-Volt has just as much chance as anybody does. He's one of the most popular characters from the series, and being a Nintendo-themed character makes him a perfect fit for a Nintendo-themed game. You can't say that any Wario Ware character is more minor than any of the other ones, since all of them have the same formula of 5-second microgame patterns. There's nothing idiotic or WTF about this. I'm fine if you don't like the idea, but it really pisses me off that you keep presenting your opinion as fact.

And even then you couldn't even do that decently. You didn't put up any actual argument there at all. Your entire post essentially boils down to something like this:

"9-Volt sucks cuz I say so

this fire emblem chick is better

Tom nook sucks cuz i say so"

Either actually try to sound smart or stop spamming.
What's your problem? I never said that my opinions was higher than anyone's opinions? Whe was it a crime to dislike a character despite having to give reasons? The simple part of it is that I just dislike the character in itself. He has an illogical,plain,and generally crappy design...Now to 9-volt.

As agrivating as this seems to you,the fact of the matter is that all Wario ware characters are minor by technicality,because they have never had anyreal significance,or made any impact on a franchise except for the franchise they have tooken part of,just like his side kick(Waluigi).All none of which made no impact on gaming what-so-ever.Fire Emblemat least has some history,and is one of the most poular RPG series in Japan,even close to Dragon Quest.Not to mention Fire Emblem has also become more popular world wide.Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu is also the most popular of it's time,with character such as Sigurd,or even his son,Celice.

Amazing...it's a Kid with a rocket skateboard,that's amazing..i should really consider this characters inclusion,while we're at it,why don't we only inlclude characters that are modern and popular like Toad,Waluigi,Birdo,Petey Pirahna,Boo,etc.In addition,let's eliminate the rest of the cast and replace them with wacky,fun modern characters,because there not important M I RITE?So what if this character has a "Nintendo Formula" esque design,that doesn't designate the characters inclusion.

Contrary to your belief,you should try to sound smarter,insted of claiming that I:

-Am spamming

-Said that my opinion was better than everyone elses.

-Said a character"Just Sucks".

You on the otherhad gave me your opinion without any solid reason what-so-ever why you believe that it's correct.So who is the one being ignorent.I'm meerly stating my opinion,as we both have our own.

Another thing,thanks for contradicting your argument by stating which character is better by making it fact because she was only 1 character from some game,well you obviously know nothing of the Fire Emblem franchise.(which it isn't,just an opinion),and unlike what I said,what I was stating was simply MY OPINION ALONE.

Even if a character is part of Nintendo,that doesn't give them any rights to be included into a game of such a calibur,nor does it give them rights to be on a higher level than characters,even though more are more deserving.

I will completly negate my argument,if you can give me reasons why this character is so important to the point in which he must be included in smash bros.Because you must relize,Smash Bros. doesn't have minor characters(I don't know if Pichu counts....),or even modern ones(Except for the characters with modern referances).

Smash Bros. is a fighting game for Nintendo ALL-STARS.Insignificant characters shouldn't take any part in this game...especially anything of such an insignifcant calibur such as 9-volt...

Take note,this is simply my opinion,and my opinion alone...

EDIT: Take no offense to what i said.I like Wario Ware,and i like 9-volt,i just don't believe that the character could fit into smash,especialy when there are more characters to consider and limited space.
 

mariomanrevived

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I can very well see 9-Volt being in Brawl, possibly as the WTF? character. A moveset wouldn't be hard either, because he could just use various Nintendo items and such.
 

HiddenTiger

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Phoenix, instead of quoting every single part of that post and spending a lot more time than either of us should have to spend, I'll just try and make my point a little clearer:

What I was so offended about was that you immediately dismissed my serious suggestion as just another "WTF" joke thread, and then immediately flew off topic by bringing up two unrelated characters for no reason whatsoever.
 
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I wasn't really trying to place myself out the topic,I was attempting to use that as an example.And on the contrary,I had no idea that you were the original creator of the Tom Nook thread.

I'm not trying to deliberatly bash on your character suggestions,i just thought that Smash Bros. was a game for "All-Star" characters,and i don't think that 9-volt can be considered into the game due to it's significance.But then again, can guarantee you that only 2% of the ideas in the Brawl threads will actualy be implemented in the game...So that could make my hopes for Ira get shot down.

But.....I hope Sigurd has a chance. ; )
 

HiddenTiger

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You're right. Let's just all take a deep breath and settle down.

Stryks? Any progress on that moveset you were thinking about?
 

Stryks

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Im working on it, when to a party yesterday and well just woke up, but im working on it...

Offtopic: Vote for stryks for the best forum name award!!
 

Brawlmatt202

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Mike is my favorite, so I'd rather see him, although 9-Volt is a total Nintendo fanatic, so to see himself in SSB....

Well, it might actually be hard for him to fight his most beloved characters...
 

Stryks

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Hye ive been busy, today was my 1st tourney XD... I sucked, lost in the 1st round but it WAS against one of my hometowns best, 2nd best overall i think, still I did lower him to his last 2 stocks with 160%...
 

Axel-of-the-Key

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I thought about this a while ago and started working on a moveset. I think it would be cool if 9-Volt used a bunch of Nintendo peripherals to fight.
B: NES Zapper: The Zapper works exactly like the Super Scope, only it's several points weaker. Basically, you can tap the B button to send out 3 small shots for 3% damage each, or you can charge it for 5-12% damage.
<>B: Gameboy Camera: 9-Volt whips out his Gameboy Camera and flashes it in front of him. Anyone hit by the flash is put into a 2-second trance, like Mewtwo's disable.
vB: Power Glove: 9-Volt slips on the Power Glove and punches the ground, creating a small earthquake that does 10% damage to anyone nearby.
^B: NES Chord: 9-Volt pulls out his NES controller and throws the cord upwards. On the ground, he can use it to pull enemies in the air to the ground for 5% damage. However, when falling, he can use it as a tether recovery.
Final Smash: 18-Volt: 9-Volt whips out a gamecube controller, which he then plugs into 18-Volt. By pressing buttons, players can move around 18-Volt and use his colossal strength to hurt people for 10 second. He has many great and powerful moves.
 

etrain911

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nice moveset, axel of the key. all I disagree about is the final smash I think it should be just a little bit diffrent that's all.
 

Leobenmc

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I thought about this a while ago and started working on a moveset. I think it would be cool if 9-Volt used a bunch of Nintendo peripherals to fight.
B: NES Zapper: The Zapper works exactly like the Super Scope, only it's several points weaker. Basically, you can tap the B button to send out 3 small shots for 3% damage each, or you can charge it for 5-12% damage.
<>B: Gameboy Camera: 9-Volt whips out his Gameboy Camera and flashes it in front of him. Anyone hit by the flash is put into a 2-second trance, like Mewtwo's disable.
vB: Power Glove: 9-Volt slips on the Power Glove and punches the ground, creating a small earthquake that does 10% damage to anyone nearby.
^B: NES Chord: 9-Volt pulls out his NES controller and throws the cord upwards. On the ground, he can use it to pull enemies in the air to the ground for 5% damage. However, when falling, he can use it as a tether recovery.
Final Smash: 18-Volt: 9-Volt whips out a gamecube controller, which he then plugs into 18-Volt. By pressing buttons, players can move around 18-Volt and use his colossal strength to hurt people for 10 second. He has many great and powerful moves.
I like it so far, except for the Final Smash, which I want to be a series of minigames - each one you complete (it gets faster and faster) adding 25% damage to all foes. But that can easily be Wario's.
I'm thinking Wii Nunchucks based 'A' Moves :p
 

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After getting WarioWare: Smooth Moves (which I give a 9.5/10), I want 9Volt more than ever. At least as an AT or cameo in the Warioware stage.
 

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Wario needs another character, 9-volt is the best choice in the WW book.
 

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I believe its tied between Mona and 9-Volt...I'd pick either one....and let my quarter decide...
 

NK Cyborg

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Ever since I heard about Brawl in the works, 9-Volt was the 2nd among 3 characters I wanted so badly in the game. (Mallow from Super Mario RPG was 1st and Soren from Fire Emblem 9 was 3rd. Now 9-Volt's up to 1st with Mallow 2nd.) I did make up a moveset for him on the Nintendo NSider forums before, but that thread was long gone and I only remember that some of them involved his board (SK8) and the blocks from the R.O.B. microgame. ^^; FlipTroopa brought up an interesting and humorous point on page 2 about 9-Volt seeing Mario and Link in person. He would definitely have a heart attack, or a stroke at least! Brawlmatt202 also brought up another good point about him fighting his beloved characters. I don't mean to sound like the stereotypical, bad fanboy, but since Snake's in there, 9-Volt won't have any qualms about fighting him. XD He would probably be able to fight against his own boss Wario for never giving him a paycheck... All in all, I want 9-Volt in Brawl so bad!
 
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Wario needs another character, 9-volt is the best choice in the WW book.
Blasphemy! Tsk tsk tsk and with all your posts in the Ashley thread! For shame... for shame... lol jk

Anyway, I don't think 9-volt would be unique enough to be in Brawl. I believe that Ashley should be the second wario ware rep!
 

Maricalistaro

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I think 9-volt is a terrible choice for a wario ware character. He has absolutely nothing to build from, except nastalgia which is one of th main points for brawl anyway
 
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