New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Metal Overlord]

I thought Wolf was done pretty well in Brawl, too, he could use a little more oomph in his playstyle though

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Metal Overlord
That's what the Project M Wolf adds. They give him the ability to juggle really well, and change a few moves (they made his neutral B a bit different).

Logic and research is officially dead. Let's inform his immediate family.

No, I am not dead. Johnknight1 = logic and research.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I thought Wolf was done pretty well in Brawl, too, he could use a little more oomph in his playstyle though

Recovery improvements would be a good start. It's never good when your recovery moves are inaccurate and unsafe to be using.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Project M Wario and Charizard are equally sexy, they replaced that GODDAMNED Wario Bike with his Shoulder Bash from the land of Wario and made Charizard seperate from Pokemon Trainer

WANT

 

[Johnknight1]

Project M Wario and Charizard are equally sexy, they replaced that GODDAMNED Wario Bike with his Shoulder Bash from the land of Wario

I think the Bike is a nice forward B, but DAT SHOULDER just "feels" like a special. I don't mind it being another attack, though.

Also, I think the Pokémon Trainer should stay the same, but be able to switch out Pokémon much faster, and not require you to use the other Pokémon.

Wait until the game is actually in great development before believing roster leaks. Brawl's roster wasn't leaked until mere MONTHS before it came out. We're talking a roster leak 4-5 years ahead of time, from before the game even started development.

Yes, but before Brawl came out there were two rosters that looked real. One of them were, and the 1st details were leaked about 4 months early.

Most of us learned the hard way that we knew the Super Smash Bros. (Brawl) roster before the game came out.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I just realized something: in the extremely unlikely event that we were get a second Sonic character, it would most likely be Tails

 

[Starphoenix]

Apparently Pit and Palutena know about Super Smash Bros in Uprising and Pit makes a comment about having been in it. lol

 

[Johnknight1]

@
I've been saying that forever Metal dating back years before Sonic was revealed. Haven't you been listening=???

The third most likely character is up for debate. If could be Dr. Eggman, Knuckles, or *cringes* Shadow.

@ Star
You mean they mention how Pit was playable and Paletuna was in it (as a NPC)=??? If Paletuna was flat out confirmed in the game as a playable character, that'd be hilarious!

 

[BKupa666]

You sure about that? You could probably derive a decent moveset from his cartoons so long as you're willing to go the Phoenix Wright route.

If regular Mickey was used, a set -could- be cobbled together from his various cartoons, but very little he does outside of Fantasia would be recognizable by the general audience. Unlike Mario, the other definitive everyman, Mickey has no trademark moves, per se.

 

[---]

Apparently Pit and Palutena know about Super Smash Bros in Uprising and Pit makes a comment about having been in it. lol

It's official then, the forth wall has been broken. Certainly makes you wonder about the new content we'll get from the series.

Any mentions of OM&M? :3

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I just realized something: in the extremely unlikely event that we were get a second Sonic character, it would most likely be Tails

I blame the EGM rumor.

 

[Oasis_S]

Cannot believe the favorite song from Distand Planet is Ai No Uta... SMH

Are you dumb or something.

 

[Starphoenix]

Are you dumb or something.

No, just appalled.

On music though although it is a little difficult to hear over the cpmmentator this song, whatever it is, is my new favorite Fire Emblem field track of all time.

http://youtu.be/A3mAnZ40dgI?t=3m38s

 

[---]

On music though although it is a little difficult to hear over the cpmmentator this song, whatever it is, is my new favorite Fire Emblem field track of all time.

http://youtu.be/A3mAnZ40dgI?t=3m38s

What do you think of a FE13 stage then?

 

[Johnknight1]

IMO, they need to cut Toon Link from Smash 4. Toon Link is clearly better than Link and I love playing as Toon Link more than I do as Link... but I don't need two Links and I don't think Smash 4 needs two Links who are similar. They should just give Link Toon Link's speed, boomerang, and the Air Down+A move and call it a day.

No. Keep Link as the awful character everyone likes and Toon Link as a boss.
[COLLAPSE="My ideas for how to "upgrade" Link and Toon Link"]Give Link's Gale Boomerang (which should stay) the ability to actually do damage, while Toon Link's boomerang should automatically "track" opponents like the strong version of Samus' missiles (forward B). Then, give either Toon Link or Link a new down B and neutral B. Lastly (for specials), make Toon Link's up B more like Young Link's (have both of them "suck in" very close by opponents), and make both of their up B's work very differently (and have different frames/effects).

After that, give Ton Link a few new tilts, aerials, and smashes. Give Toon Link a lunge as a forward smash, a sweep as a down smash and a super stab as a up smash.

For aerials, make Toon Link's forward air a straight downward slash (it spikes opponents below the move, sends opponents above upward, and sends opponents sideways). Change Toon Link's up air to something like Marth's but quicker. Keep his down air the same, but make it spike harder and juggle better.

As for tilts, give Toon Link a stab as a down tilt. It would do slightly more stun and less knock back. His forward tilt would be a quick stab that "pushes" the foe backwards and puts Toon Link in a position for a tech chase if the foe is at low damage. I'm not sure what to do with his up tilt, but keep it fairly the same and as a solid juggling move. Finally, change his A-A-A to a quick stab, downward swipe, and a sideways swipe that sends the foe backwards at a 45 degree angle.

Last but not least, it would be awesome to see his grab be his grappling hook that completely wraps the foe in for some grab throws. In the rare even that happens, it would be AWESOME!!![/COLLAPSE]
Anyways, I got class. See y'all later!

 

[Starphoenix]

What do you think of a FE13 stage then?

If Awakening has a really great locale, which I'm sure it will, I'd be down for it. Never know Tri, since this game is in some way affiliated with the first FE trilogy maybe we could see a neo-Dragon's Altar type location. Yeah, overall I'd like one. FE13, from what I can tell, is shaping up to be my favorite Fire Emblem of all time. The more I see from it the more I love. CGI, design, maps, story, music; it's all coming together.

 

[BKupa666]

So, I've just gone through a massive Japanese Super Smash Bros poll and am surprised by some of the things I've learned. Cannot believe the favorite song from Distand Planet is Ai No Uta... SMH

What I did like was seeing a large amount of love for the Melee evaluation screens at the end of matches.

Any other tidbits worth mentioning?

 

[Oasis_S]

No, just appalled.

On music though although it is a little difficult to hear over the cpmmentator this song, whatever it is, is my new favorite Fire Emblem field track of all time.

http://youtu.be/A3mAnZ40dgI?t=3m38s

Butbut... They carry, fight, multiply, and get eaten... And they won't ask you to love them.

The song's a real tearjerker, so I guess you're an emotionless rock then.


"Maybe we'll go out quietly."

 

[Starphoenix]

Any other tidbits worth mentioning?

Depends upon what you find interesting? I noticed the most disliked character in Brawl, according to this poll, is Toon Link, with over 1000 votes. The most popular Brawl stage, currently is Port Town: Aero Dive, and the least liked appears to be New Pork City. There is a lot of different things I can post. Got to give credit to my man Chrono for showing me the link. Thus poll has a large sample size.

Butbut... They carry, fight, multiply, and get eaten... And they won't ask you to love them.

The song's a real tearjerker, so I guess you're an emotionless rock then.


"Maybe we'll go out quietly."

Look the song is terrible to fight to. How I play is subtly influenced by what track is playing, and this song is just blah.

 

[ChronoBound]

Apparently Pit and Palutena know about Super Smash Bros in Uprising and Pit makes a comment about having been in it. lol

That is nothing.

"You know, these Komaytoes sure look a lot like Metroids"
"Don't say that! That game universe has nothing to do with this gaming universe!"

 

[ChronoBound]

Any other tidbits worth mentioning?

I am the one that sent Star the polls.

 

[Starphoenix]

Poor 4th wall has not been this abused since Freakazoid was still on television.

 

[Oasis_S]

Look the song is terrible to fight to. How I play is subtly influenced by what track is playing, and this song is just blah.

You're more likely a terrible fighter because you're a terrible person at heart. It is so cold. You have shut it off to your emotions. If you would just open yourself up, then the fighting spirit would flow through you.

 

[---]

That is nothing.

"You know, these Komaytoes sure look a lot like Metroids"
"Don't say that! That game universe has nothing to do with this gaming universe!"

At this point I want to know who wrote the dialogue for this game.

Poor 4th wall has not been this abused since Freakazoid was still on television.

"cough...Deadpool...cough"

 

[Starphoenix]

You're more likely a terrible fighter because you're a terrible person at heart. It is so cold. You have shut it off to your emotions. If you would just open yourself up, then the fighting spirit would flow through you.

Meh, sure me. I'll have you know, mister, I tried to save every one of my Pikmin in the original game.

On the flipside, my best song to fight too is probably this. Cannot explain it but when I am in a battle with this song playing I am just better. Weird, anyone else like that?

 

[SmashChu]

I am the one that sent Star the polls.

Do share then.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Apparently Pit and Palutena know about Super Smash Bros in Uprising and Pit makes a comment about having been in it. lol

That would surely be an amusing Easter Egg to get.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Meh, sure me. I'll have you know, mister, I tried to save every one of my Pikmin in the original game.

On the flipside, my best song to fight too is probably this. Cannot explain it but when I am in a battle with this song playing I am just better. Weird, anyone else like that?

Yep. This is pretty much how I feel with the Hyrule theme and the Pokemon Gold theme in Melee

OH, yeah, and with the Against the Dark Knight theme

 

[BKupa666]

I am the one that sent Star the polls.

Do they contain any new information regarding Japanese requests?

 

[Arcadenik]

Guys, hypothetical reaction time.

Let's say Mickey Mouse was in Sm4sh under his Epic Mickey form. Would you be ok with this? Thrilled? Furious?

I'm only bringing this hypothetical because I strangely had a vision of Mickey fighting Mario out of nowhere.

LOL I had a dream that Mickey Mouse was in Brawl years ago.

 

[ChronoBound]

Do they contain any new information regarding Japanese requests?

No, they don't.

 

[Starphoenix]

Finally, a Brawl match with some Sin and Punishment music.

http://youtu.be/JIRCVJC-uhs

 

[Metal Overlord]

Funnily enough, I was just listening to some Sin and Punishment music earlier today

Dat Risk One's Neck theme

 

[Shorts]

You know the drill, 500 YO.

A Tier ~
1. King K. Rool (330)
2. Ridley (319)
3. Mewtwo (308)

B Tier~
4. Isaac (274)
5. Little Mac (274)
6. Megaman (263)
7. Toad (256)
8. Krystal (248)

C Tier ~
9. Medusa (197)
10. Dixie Kong (196)
11. Samurai Goroh (194)
12. Roy (182)
13. Junior (178)
14. Bandana Dee (177)
15. Zoroark (171)
16. Palutena (169)
17. Saki (167)
18. Ghirahim (156)

D Tier ~
19. Black Shadow (142)
20. Takamaru (142)
21. Shulk (141)
22. Victini (138)
23. Paper Mario (137)
24. Super Mario RPG (137)
25. Pichu (133)
26. Ashley (130)
27. Mii (130)
28. Waluigi (129)
29. Starfy (129)
30. Plusle & Minun (125)
31. Banjo Kazooie (122)
32. Ray MK (114)
33. Claus / MM (113)
34. Caeda (109)
35. Bomberman (108)
36. Captain Syrup (106)
37. Tom Nook (105)

E Tier~ (Not posting all 140 characters in F tier)
38. Meowth (97)
39. Krom (96)
40. Professo Layton (94)
41. Impa (93)
42. Lip (90)
43. Pac-Man (88)
44. Lyn (87)
45. Tingle (86)
46. Balloon Fighter (84)
47. Sukapon (83)
48. Majora (80)
49. Final Fantasy (77)
50. Deoxys (76)
51. Pokemon Trainer Hoenn (72)
52. Black Knight (69)
53. Kamek (68)
54. Mach Rider (68)
55. Dragon Quest (68)
56. Doctor Mario (66)
57. Pokemon Trainer Johto (66)
58. Vaati (63)
59. Andy (63)
60. Mona (62)
61. Hector (61)
62. Anthony Higgs (60)
63. Pokemon Trainer Unova (59)
64. Porky (58)
65. Elite Beat Agents (58)
66. Dillon (57)
67. Magnus (56)
68. Dark Samus (55)
69. Castlevania (55)
70. Rayman (55)
71. Young Link (53)
72. Matthew (53)
73. Travis Touchdown (53)
74. Alex of Golden Sun (52)
75. Street Fighter (52)
76. Jimmy T. (51)

I would like to NOTE that all double voted is and will always be taken into account. (Toad is THE MOST FREQUENTED character to be on a double vote ballot)

 

[Big-Cat]

You're more likely a terrible fighter because you're a terrible person at heart. It is so cold. You have shut it off to your emotions. If you would just open yourself up, then the fighting spirit would flow through you.

I love this.

 

[Oasis_S]

I'm a ****ty fighter because I'm... Oh goodness.

 

[Pieman0920]

*Looks at

Spoiler

Medusa's

boss fight from Uprising*

Well that was...kind of unimpressive.

 

[ChronoBound]

*Looks at

Spoiler

Medusa's

boss fight from Uprising*

Well that was...kind of unimpressive.

Medusa will still primarily be supported for a possible second Kid Icarus newcomer spot due to her being female. However, Magnus and

Spoiler

Hades

will probably be competitive with her. Palutena will really be above the rest though.

 

[Shorts]

I'm a ****ty fighter because I'm... Oh goodness.

You're so Womanly, so wenchy, so weak, so maiden like.

Medusa and Palutena will be the prominent choices. I figure the other person is going to be similar to Demise in terms of support. Lacking. ALTHOUGH, I haven't seen HOW he plays yet, and I don't know TOO much about his role. I'm assuming it's major, but very "final bossy". Am I right?

 

[Pieman0920]

Medusa will still primarily be supported for a possible second Kid Icarus newcomer spot due to her being female. However, Magnus and

Spoiler

Hades

will probably be competitive with her. Palutena will really be above the rest though.

Yeah, but just watching from the perspective that it could be a hint as to what her moveset would be if she were actually in, its just sort of lackluster.

Spoiler

I mean, she just sort of winks out projectiles, and then shoots out eye lasers, and her monster form is just her head floating off her body. If she were scaled down to fit, that would just be really silly.