New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Conviction]

Wait Chrono, they're already planning on Zelda Wii U??

 

[Oasis_S]

@ChronoBound: I think it would depend on how far along Zelda Wii U is. The roster will be complete BY THE END OF THE YEAR. So, I don't think Sakurai could WAIT on making the Zelda characters until the Zelda team can lend them some assets and what not. I wouldn't think it's as simple as a model switch. Character designs also give a feeling for the stats of a character, and possibly subtle changes to the moveset (like the Gale Boomerang).

 

[ChronoBound]

Wait Chrono, they're already planning on Zelda Wii U??

Aonuma (the director and producer for the 3D Zeldas) said his goal is to get the next home console Zelda out within three years after Skyward Sword's release. Considering he was talking about how many unused ideas his team had for Skyward Sword and how badly they want to implement these ideas in the next Zelda, I definitely think its a possibility, though I can see Zelda Wii U being delayed into 2015.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Wait, isn't there supposed to a new Zelda for 3DS, too?

 

[Conviction]

That's crazy Chrono. I'm excited to see what they didn't get to put into SS and what new ideas they'll come up with

 

[Opelucid]

Wait, isn't there supposed to a new Zelda for 3DS, too?

Yeah I think so. I saw something over at Gamefaqs about it but then again it's Gamefaqs so you really can't listen to everything they say.

Btw did ya'll see this yet I'm assuming you guys already did since I haven't been on in awhile.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I thought I heard something official about Zelda 3DS from Nintendo, though

And yeah, we saw it. While I hope Donkey Kong 3DS is real, I'm sorta doubting it at the moment, at least not for this year. Smash 3DS isn't real for obvious reasons

 

[ChronoBound]

@ChronoBound: I think it would depend on how far along Zelda Wii U is. The roster will be complete BY THE END OF THE YEAR. So, I don't think Sakurai could WAIT on making the Zelda characters until the Zelda team can lend them some assets and what not. I wouldn't think it's as simple as a model switch. Character designs also give a feeling for the stats of a character, and possibly subtle changes to the moveset (like the Gale Boomerang).

Both Sakurai and Aonuma have gone on record to say that they work closely together in regards to Zelda content in Smash Bros. I have previously mentioned that Impa's only hope is Sakurai coming to Aonuma for Zelda designs for Smash 4, and Aonuma pointing Sakurai to Impa (since there is no unused Sheik design like there was for Twilight Princess).

Sakurai will go to the Zelda team for character design advice, especially considering that Shiek and Ganondorf don't even show up in Skyward Sword. Its possible that they will show Sakurai their proposed designs for the Triforce Trio in Zelda Wii U.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Guess I'm not crazy at all. Zelda Wiki has an article on Zelda 3DS and gave a source so it's true.

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Zelda_3DS

Apparently, they're considering Majora's Mask 3DS, too, but it'll have to wait until after Zelda 3DS is developed. And also, the game is supposed to take elements from console Zelda games such as the GCN Zelda games (Twilight Princess and Wind Waker)

 

[Conviction]

That's interesting, would you happen to have the source around you Chrono? About Sakurai and Aonuma?

 

[Oasis_S]

HURM. Usually I bring up how Mario Galaxy had no content in Brawl, despite both being announced at the same time, BUUUT that doesn't matter a whole lot because it would have only lent a stage and music, while the Mario characters' designs remained the same. Zelda Wii U will likely have a different style about it altogether from Skyward Sword, and will be released before (?) Sm4sh, so... Maybe they'll be forced to work VERY closely together to have their content SYNCH UP.


THAT DOES NOT FILL ME WITH RAINBOWS WHEN THINKING OF GHIRAHIM'S PROSPECTS.

 

[ChronoBound]

That's interesting, would you happen to have the source around you Chrono? About Sakurai and Aonuma?

Here you go.

GI: Have you been consulted at all for the usage of Link or Sheik or Ganondorf for Smash Bros. Brawl?

Aonuma: I’ve been working with Sakurai for a very long time with this new Smash Bros., because the Wii came out and when discussion for a new Smash Bros. took place nobody could think of anyone other than Sakurai working on it. He was kind of the default, and I was very happy to hear that he would be working on it. Actually, my designers did work on the designs for Sheik and Link and Ganondorf. So they submitted the initial designs, and so it would fit in the Smash Bros. Brawl environment, they’ve had to tweak some of the designs. But Sakurai has brought those altered designs to NCL. We’re working very closely with the team of Smash Bros. Brawl to make sure the characters look their best.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

 

[Conviction]

Thank you very much.

So moving on, Zelda, somewhat like Pokemon and Fire Emblem, are closely supervised by their developers?

 

[Metal Overlord]

Stuff like that is why I love reading interviews about Smash and its development

 

[Oasis_S]

Thank you very much.

So moving on, Zelda, somewhat like Pokemon and Fire Emblem, are closely supervised by their developers?

You probably get that with most big-name stuff. Even the smaller series probably get SOME input from their designers. You know why Sonic doesn't have a Tails-inspired recolor, or a Knuckles-inspired recolor? Because they probably felt being blue is an integral part of Sonic's design that shouldn't be changed. He is the Blue Blur after all!

THOSE JERKS JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO HAVE FUN. Should have had a pink, Amy-colored Sonic.


Zoroark should be a starter.

 

[Sage of Ice]

ghirahim and zoroark as starters? seems weird to me, but i definitely wouldn't complain if two of my picks were confirmed before release.

pre-brawl, my hopes were for wind waker link, lucario, bowser jr. and midna (sonic was already confirmed, and ridley de-confirmed). all of them either were or would've been unlockable; i was in suspense the entire time!

 

[Metal Overlord]

Zoroark as a starter? LOL that would piss asage off for real

 

[Oasis_S]

Zoroark as a starter? LOL that would piss asage off for real

Really though, Luario would be old news, and I feel like Mewtwo would remain unlockable as well. The only remaining option is Zoroark as the new starting Pokemon. He's a better choice then Mewtwo since he's an actual NEW character. I know people would PREFER seeing Mewtwo, but after being cut in Brawl, being an unlockable in this game would just add to the surprise.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Metal: Beat Classic in Hard as Zoroark, and Victini challenges you. Beat him to unlock him.

 

[Sage of Ice]

zoroark, victini, genesect, N, doesn't matter. any 5th generation addition would still be a welcome surprise as a starting character.

just not trubbish, because **** trubbish. series-wide, it and its evolution are two of the very few 'mon i actually hate.

it's a big bag of crap. and it evolves into an exploded bag of crap. there's no delicate way to put it.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Oaster, who's this graduate you drew in Swapnote?

 

[Oasis_S]

Only the Strongest in the whole world, of course. Also the Shiniest.

 

[ChronoBound]

Less than two weeks until Uprising is released. We are most likely going to get the last part of Pit's story for the OVAs this week too. Hopefully, we will see Palutena or Medusa's story before Uprising is released.

I think the release of Uprising will give us plenty to speculate about for Smash 4. By the time Uprising and all of the OVAs are released, there will be only about two months away for a possible Smash 4 unveil. Its pretty exciting that the next phase for Smash Bros. speculation will begin so soon.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I'm gonna be the shiniest, I tell ya.

Palutena is loove. She reads blogs, controls Pit like in a SHMUP...

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Also, NOE, bring the animes in, maaaaaaaaaan!!!!


(-ÒΔÓ-)**

You get new video after 2 days?! I think I get new videos after one week or more. (-íλì-)

 

[Oasis_S]

I would doodle you a picture of Palutena to make you feel better if I weren't so tired.

 

[Mypantisgone]

just not trubbish, because **** trubbish.

EDIT:just so you know,i just though it was funny!

 

[Conviction]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A68Pd7Uq8ZQ&feature=related

 

[---]

I am seeing a lot of positive reaction to Palutena, specifically her personality. I think even if she does not show any ability toward combat she is going to end up having many fans. Sakurai definitely knows how to make characters charming.

Pretty much what I've been saying for a while now.

Should Ness and Falcon become starters, so that Lucas and Goroh can be their unlockable brethren?

I can't help but feel like Ness and Falcon should be coupled together in this case.

Ness and Lucas could go either way, Falcon should definitely become starter if we get Goroh.

Here you go.

GI: Have you been consulted at all for the usage of Link or Sheik or Ganondorf for Smash Bros. Brawl?

Aonuma: I’ve been working with Sakurai for a very long time with this new Smash Bros., because the Wii came out and when discussion for a new Smash Bros. took place nobody could think of anyone other than Sakurai working on it. He was kind of the default, and I was very happy to hear that he would be working on it. Actually, my designers did work on the designs for Sheik and Link and Ganondorf. So they submitted the initial designs, and so it would fit in the Smash Bros. Brawl environment, they’ve had to tweak some of the designs. But Sakurai has brought those altered designs to NCL. We’re working very closely with the team of Smash Bros. Brawl to make sure the characters look their best.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

This is going in the info thread, once I stop feeling lazy and update it with the Japanese fanbase stuff.

I would doodle you a picture of Palutena to make you feel better if I weren't so tired.

You can send him the one you sent me in Swapnote, I don't mind.

 

[Wizzrobe]

ghirahim and zoroark as starters? seems weird to me, but i definitely wouldn't complain if two of my picks were confirmed before release.

pre-brawl, my hopes were for wind waker link, lucario, bowser jr. and midna (sonic was already confirmed, and ridley de-confirmed). all of them either were or would've been unlockable; i was in suspense the entire time!

I honestly would not care whether the characters are starters or not.

As long as they are confirmed to be in the game.

 

[ChronoBound]

How many slots do you think Smash 4 will have?

50 is pretty much what most people seem to think.

Also, Palutena and Medusa need to be pretty impressive for me to personally want them for Smash Bros. I normally am not too impressed with one-shot characters unless I play with them extensively.

 

[Wizzrobe]

How many slots do you think Smash 4 will have?

50 is pretty much what most people seem to think.

Also, Palutena and Medusa need to be pretty impressive for me to personally want them for Smash Bros. I normally am not too impressed with one-shot characters unless I play with them extensively.

I dont see how there is any way to really tell how many slots.

 

[---]

How are Palutena and Medusa one shot characters when they've appeared in multiple games?

50 slots? I've been mostly hearing 48 slots, but I guess 49 characters with a random slot could also work (I certainly wouldn't be complaining).

 

[ChronoBound]

How are Palutena and Medusa one shot characters when they've appeared in multiple games?

50 slots? I've been mostly hearing 48 slots, but I guess 49 characters with a random slot could also work (I certainly wouldn't be complaining).

Palutena and Medusa never really got much screen time in the previous two Kid Icarus games (with Medusa being absent from Of Myths and Monsters). Medusa in Uprising is essentially like Ganondorf was to Ganon, the same being, but with a radically changed design.

As to 50 slots, yeah, when I am saying 50 slots I mean 49 slots with a random icon as the 50th slot.

 

[Big-Cat]

Am I the only one that want's all of the Original 12 to be starter characters? I'd be annoyed if the character I unlock after beating Classic is Jigglypuff AGAIN. I'd rather it be where the returning characters are starter characters (save for G&W and R.O.B.) along with four starter newcomer characters. Let us unlock the rest of the newcomers this time instead of getting veterans save for Lucario, Wolf, and R.O.B., Sonic, and Snake. Speaking of which, can we just have it where the third party charcters are starter characters as well. It's one thing if they weren't mentioned on the back of the box, but why mention them and then make them locked?

 

[yani]

How many slots do you think Smash 4 will have?

My original guess was 50+/-2. I'm starting to think we'll have a bit over that though.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Nah, Luigi needs to stay unlockable, Jiggs I couldn't care less

Oh and I agree with yani

 

[Mypantisgone]

I think they should do actions(or not) figurines,master/crazy hand and giga bowser on a trophie!

if they ever make alt costume,it may be unlockable,a reason to do classic maybe!

I don't remember the name but there was a smash bros fan game with the timer as a weapon,but it was 8-bit and turned everyone in weak single-attack 8-bit sprite!

 

[ChronoBound]

F-Zero is such a great series, and F-Zero GX is perhaps the best racing game ever. Its such a shame how a second F-Zero character may not even happen for Smash 4. Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh would be find by me, I just think F-Zero deserves a second character.

 

[Deleted member]

Am I the only one that want's all of the Original 12 to be starter characters? I'd be annoyed if the character I unlock after beating Classic is Jigglypuff AGAIN. I'd rather it be where the returning characters are starter characters (save for G&W and R.O.B.) along with four starter newcomer characters. Let us unlock the rest of the newcomers this time instead of getting veterans save for Lucario, Wolf, and R.O.B., Sonic, and Snake. Speaking of which, can we just have it where the third party charcters are starter characters as well. It's one thing if they weren't mentioned on the back of the box, but why mention them and then make them locked?

I agree. The Original 12 should all be starters at this point.

And a few more veterans should be made starter as well, such as Marth and arguably Falco.
Some veterans should stay unlockable IMO, such as Ganondorf. It would feel wierd not to unlock the King of Evil.

EDIT: Although, you didn't unlock Jigglypuff by beating Classic in Brawl.