New Orleans Monthly #1. [Meta Knight was banned.]

[-Ran]

1. Lee (Lucario)
2. Cyphus (DK)
3. Pierre (Lucas)
4. CJ (Snake)
5. Sudai (ROB)
5. 1221 (DK/ROB)
7. Nick (D3)
7. Cotton (Marth/Falco)
9. holychef (IC/D3)
9. Mankosuki (ROB)
9. DJ (Olimar)
9. Ran Iji (Snake)
13. Testament (Ness/C.Falcon/Yoshi)
13. FakeGeorge (G&W)
13. MuraRengan (Luigi)
13. Cloud520 (Lucario)
17. Ricky B. (Marth)
17. Chaddly (Snake)
17. BBO (Kirby)
17. Sev (??)
17. Roni (Ike/Falco)
17. John Wu (Lucario)
17. Battou (Marth/Lucario)
17. Dark (D3)
25. Matthew (Olimar)
25. Shyguy (Olimar?)
25. Mak (Luigi)
25. Nell (??)

http://www.gametabs.com/pages/events/bracket/bracket_table.php?id=60 for Bracket.

Special notes:
-John Wu was DQed after losing to Sudai due to not showing for his match in the Loser's. Evidently he left.
-In the Loser's bracket when CJ and DJ were going to fight 'again' I swapped my fight with Cotton to fight CJ. Cotton beat DJ, and CJ beat me.

 

[unknown522]

lol characters other than metaknight won!!

 

[NintenJoe]

a wide variety of characters placed in the top 5! Now theres something you don't see at an MK allowed tournament!

 

[Inui]

Hey, look, same people won anyways.

You proved nothing.

 

[GenesisJLS]

Yes, another great tournament not won by Meta! I smell the ban hammer.

 

[Zankoku]

Hypothesis: Meta Knight makes people perform better in tournaments than they should because he is a character that is so far beyond the rest of the cast that he allows worse players to win.

Experiment: Lee, a Meta Knight main who typically places first, enters a tournament where Meta Knight is banned.

Results: Lee places first with Lucario.

Conclusion: Lee is a strong player, and he happens to main Meta Knight. This conclusion does not support the hypothesis.

These tournament results will be catalogued for further research.

 

[LeeHarris]

Hey, look, same people won anyways.

You proved nothing.

I wonder what it's like to be so stupid

Hypothesis: Meta Knight makes people perform better in tournaments than they should because he is a character that is so far beyond the rest of the cast that he allows worse players to win.

Experiment: Lee, a Meta Knight main who typically places first, enters a tournament where Meta Knight is banned.

Results: Lee places first with Lucario.

Conclusion: Lee is a strong player, and he happens to main Meta Knight. This conclusion does not support the hypothesis.

These tournament results will be catalogued for further research.

From what I understand, he plays a ton of Lucario and it is his secondary character. He is obviously familiar with him because he beat Azen's Lucario 2 games and forced Azen to go MK. Just another piece of data to add

Also, that character diversity is beautiful. It makes me cry!

 

[-Ran]

Hypothesis: Meta Knight makes people perform better in tournaments than they should because he is a character that is so far beyond the rest of the cast that he allows worse players to win.

Experiment: Lee, a Meta Knight main who typically places first, enters a tournament where Meta Knight is banned.

Results: Lee places first with Lucario.

Conclusion: Lee is a strong player, and he happens to main Meta Knight. This conclusion does not support the hypothesis.

These tournament results will be catalogued for further research.

Pretty much. Lee picked up Lucario fully right after Hobo 11, and has played him NONSTOP since. He only used Meta Knight once in the Baton Rouge monthly that took place a few weeks before the New Orleans tournament. From my conversations with him, he feels that Lucario is much more fun to play with over MK, and the competitors all enjoyed having no Meta Knights to play against. Pierre did phenomenal. Everyone was blown away by him. He typically gets 'stage fright' and usually doesn't play to his level.

Full brackets can be found:
http://www.gametabs.com/pages/events/bracket/bracket_table.php?id=60

 

[Inui]

I wonder what it's like to be so stupid

Why don't you tell me?

Stupid things you have said recently:
"Bum is inconsistent." (He placed 1st every tourny besides one.)
"Atlantic North only has scrubby MKs." (We probably have the BEST ones.)
"NinjaLink is inconsistent." (Playing at his worst, he takes 5th.)
"Inui only wins because of MK." (I won a lot and did well consistently before using MK and I have a lot of proof of that.)

I could go on when it comes to your vast ignorance.

From what I understand, he plays a ton of Lucario and it is his secondary character. He is obviously familiar with him because he beat Azen's Lucario 2 games and forced Azen to go MK. Just another piece of data to add

Azen beat M2K's MK in tourny recently. That's a bit of a hard counter to what you just said.

 

[cloud520]

13th, not too bad for my second tournament

 

[Fogo]

Azen beat M2K's MK in tourny recently. That's a bit of a hard counter to what you just said.

I think what he's trying to say is that lee placed well with lucario because he knows him well, and could place the same using lucario in a non MK ban tournament.

 

[SwastikaPyle]

Hot **** at a Lucas in 3rd place. Interesting.

 

[hungrybox]

i main ddd/jiggs/olimar now

 

[UltimateRazer]

A lucas placing third place. More data!!

 

[null55]

Hypothesis: Meta Knight makes people perform better in tournaments than they should because he is a character that is so far beyond the rest of the cast that he allows worse players to win.

Experiment: Lee, a Meta Knight main who typically places first, enters a tournament where Meta Knight is banned.

Results: Lee places first with Lucario.

Conclusion: Lee is a strong player, and he happens to main Meta Knight. This conclusion does not support the hypothesis.

These tournament results will be catalogued for further research.

Most people would look at this comment and automatically devalue the point of banning Meta Knight because your conclusion makes so much sense, but the major flaw here is that the hypothesis isn't necessary to allow worse players to win, but worse characters to win. We're looking for diversity in characters not player skill level (people who are bad at the game won't win consistently... period).

 

[LuigiKing]

Lucas at 3 is way sweet. Also nice to see Luigi somewhere in there. Sexiness.

 

[MuBa]

We need more tournaments with MK banned so we can make a solid conclusion that it brings out more diverse characters in the scene.