New Mario Matchup Thread!

[CGod]

Supposedly the rosa matchup is not even bad but i have no idea what to do against her? What do i do in neutral how do i approach?

 

[Combos4Dayz]

Supposedly the rosa matchup is not even bad but i have no idea what to do against her? What do i do in neutral how do i approach?

First, get rid of Luma. Then space with bair or dtilt, control the stage with fireball, basic Mario stuff etc.
Basically, just go after Rosa. She is very vulnerable without Luma and will resort to running away.

Spoiler

...Or just pull out your pocket Cloud Kappa

 

[Goombario64]

I'd like to propose that wins against at least 65:35. Don't really have tournament experience, but no Ganon should be able to escape Mario's combos or, especially, his edgeguarding.

 

[moofpi]

I'd like to propose that wins against at least 65:35. Don't really have tournament experience, but no Ganon should be able to escape Mario's combos or, especially, his edgeguarding.

All I have is my personal experience, but of you can't kill the Ganon on a timely manner, he'll run away with that rage on you. And yeah, you can edge guard him really well with fludd and cape if you're feeling confident, just always watch out for ganoncide.

So yeah, we win but Ganon always has those clutch comeback factors if you get carried away comboing him beyond kill confirm percents.

 

[moofpi]

Supposedly the rosa matchup is not even bad but i have no idea what to do against her? What do i do in neutral how do i approach?

Panic Up B's are great here. Can knock Luma away frequently with it. Especially if you reverse it at the start.

Of course, also dash attack, bthrow, and smash attacks taken care of Luma.

 

[DJSKRELP]

Hey guys! Dr. Mario and Mario dual main here! I was wondering a few things. First of all, what stages should I take Ryu, Falcon Yoshi, and Sheik to? Also, what combo starters work best on them?

 

[Crosstails20]

How does :4Cloud: do against Mario?

 

[MERPIS]

How does :4Cloud: do against Mario?

I would say its even or slghtly clouds favour, Mario can screw him over super early with his edgeguarding.

 

[Rust punch]

I would like some recommendations on the cloud MU I've been practicing this MU a long time now and I have found out that although it's supposedly really bad for mario this I find out to be true only if cloud is playing a well spaced and timed ( minimal lag on short hop aerials and the sort) rushdown and I'd like you guys to tell me if it's simply futile to beat this type of cloud play with mario or if there are some ways to play mario that result on a more even playing field.

But in general I feel this MU is doable for mario except for the aforementioned style of cloud

 

[Rust punch]

Although my region has little official tournaments I've played against quite few Rosa mains and I personally believe the MU is mostly dependent on Rosa's ability to maintain herself outside of marios burst options and maintaining luma if they accomplish this the majority of the match will be in their favor. I humbly believe it's even if this conditions aren't kept.