Shin F.
Smash Master
It's just one move. Not a big deal.Can we just call PMBR like right now because I think everybody is digging the Helium Hero.
Edit: This could worry the PMBR though...
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New Characters for Project M Discussion Thread (Voting Closed)
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Sour Supreme
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Perfect. Thanks Shin.
TRJV
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Well, I did get to see Ridfirm Conley, and to me that makes it all worth it.
arcticfox8
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Obviously he would be the final boss of Project M Gold Edition.
Shin F.
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Replacing Tabuu, of course. Invincibility frames in every animation. On Intense, all attacks OHKO.
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Shin F.
Smash Master
Fixed.
Shin F.
Smash Master
Know what? Screw it. Just give him the ability to use each character's most powerful attack, cranked up to eleven.
TRJV
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Hoo be doze guise
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Solbliminal
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Nah. To be honest, given Sakurai's history with Kirby games, I actually expect Tabuu Soul.
Shin F.
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In Smash 4, sure. In Project M? Lol
But, no, really, who are these guys?
Got another idea. He could start off with a supremely amped-up version of a random character's moveset, then when he takes 100% damage, he switches to another super powered-up moveset. Proceed until Alakadoof has used every character, with the last being Mario. And then, when you beat Mario!Alakadoof, he gets his own moveset and kicks your ass.
It's like All-Star Mode on
crack.
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Saito
Pranked!
You mean to tell me right now to my face that Shadow is not part hedgehog at all but is only like that in appearance?
I want a source for that appearance statement as well if you don't mind.
Nonetheless, enhancing ones abilities does not disqualify them from clone status. I'm saying that they didn't clone Doom to make shadow, but used his blood to serve as a part of his genetic makeup.
I have no idea what they mixed biolizard with though. Maybe a lizard or something.
arcticfox8
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They're from Balloon Kid, sequel to Balloon Fight. Alice is the protag, she'd get priority as an alt. Jim is her little brother she's rescuing, #plotdevice. Samm is the rival/P2 Balloon Kid. He'd be in between Alice and Tingle as far as priority alts go.
Shin F.
Smash Master
Cool, I'd be up for them as alts.
Sour Supreme
サイマグネット
GOD DA*MN IT. I was chanting in my head,
Please let Jim make sense as an alt.
Continuously. It figures that he's the only one. D: I still think Tingle is my favorite Alternate possibility..
Is it ok to discuss alts here, if the character isn't technically in game?
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TimeSmash
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Tingle for new SandbagActually I'd like Tingle in Smash
because we'd finally be given the opportunity to beat the sh*t out of him
arcticfox8
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Here's the ideal setup for Balloon Fighter's costumes
5 Balloon Fighter costumes
3 Alice costumes
1 Samm costume
1 Tingle costume
Costumes are my favorite part of this game. No lie
5 Balloon Fighter costumes
3 Alice costumes
1 Samm costume
1 Tingle costume
Costumes are my favorite part of this game. No lie
Darkmask
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I am pretty sure that is too many costumes, costumes take up space, afterall.
Honestly, I'd be happy with Balloon Fighter being the main costume and just having Tingle as the special alt.
Also, I love the idea of a character who can change his floatiness and moveset based on how many balloons he has. I wonder if BF had no balloons, was would his side and up specials be? Would they be something different?
TimeSmash
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They could potentially be nothing at all, like Olimar (although I hope that wouldn't be the case).
It would be neat and probably not too hard to have a few different randomly selected balloon colors or themes (like little logos or faces on the balloons, or a STITCHFACE balloon)
Shin F.
Smash Master
I'd say his side special would just have him swing a balloon in his hand rather than the ones on his back. Either that, or he could have a 1 balloon minimum. It would be interesting to see him not even have a double jump without at least one balloon. Maybe his up special could change to have him use a balloon string as a tether.
It's not too many costumes. Every single character can have up to ten, and they don't take up much space at all. In fact, hardly anything other than music really consumes a lot of memory with these mods. You'd be surprised, but each costume only takes between 0.5 and 4 mb, depending on the character. You can literally have 10 costumes for each and every character (including more than 19 extra clones, when using BrawlEx) fit on a 2 GB SD card no problem, with TONS of room to spare. Enough to have an extra 30+ stages added, oodles of music, movesets, modules, menus, and more. I have all of that on one of my personal builds, and it's still only at 1.3 gb.
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TRJV
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I have a question. If the poll starts up again can I change my vote? *innocent six year old voice*
Shin F.
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Actually, the primary reason it hasn't started up yet is because we (who are setting them up) haven't decided on that very question.
TRJV
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Oh, O.K. then. Thanks! *Once again, innocent six year old voice*
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TimeSmash
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I have tons of questions about the polling, but they might be better answered via a one-on-one discussion. if posters/contributors to the OP or general polling project of this thread could PM me, that would be great.
A general question is, are people on the OP just general favorites? Have they actually been highly wanted or not? I don't want to sound rude or anything but the poll itself might be better handled as a separate topic, or use external resources like one of those free online quiz poll things (quizlet, doodle, etc.). But i don't know much about the process, so let me know if that idea is moot
A general question is, are people on the OP just general favorites? Have they actually been highly wanted or not? I don't want to sound rude or anything but the poll itself might be better handled as a separate topic, or use external resources like one of those free online quiz poll things (quizlet, doodle, etc.). But i don't know much about the process, so let me know if that idea is moot
Sour Supreme
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I'm excited for polling considering I showed up like a week after they ended. ;-;
Shin F.
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The OP has only ever really held the characters which had the most discussion about them, I believe, whether positive or negative. That might change when polling is revived.
Free online polling isn't sufficient for our purposes because they don't allow the flexibility to suit our system, which has limited up-votes, unlimited half-votes and unlimited down-votes (which requires reasoning to count).
The main thing you will need to know when voting is revived is that up-votes are limited to 5 votes which (except in extreme circumstances such as outright deconfirmation of a previous vote) will not change. These are characters you feel very strongly about. Half-votes are characters you support, but not in such a way that they deserve one of your full-votes. Negative votes are for characters who would ruin the game for you if included. Do not down vote a character you're neutral about. If you're neutral about a character, simply do not vote for them.
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TimeSmash
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Ah okay that explains it. I definitely see why online polling wouldn't fit your needs then. I'm just wondering if the PMBR would communicate with you guys in some way so that this thread had some real sway as to who gets in or not (if at all). Because I really think that it's important that the community had a strong input on who gets in, because Project M (to date, we'll see about PM 2.0) is very much the community's game, contentwise. (Not saying we own the characters, stages, or anything related to any game, but the mechanics the PMBR has created or the alterations they have performed are quite their own)
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Darkmask
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I like the idea of a balloon-less BF's side special being a string tether, sounds like it could be interesting, maybe it would be a balloon string grab that could snag opponents in for a powerful hit, also, if used over a pit it could be used as a suicide move, like Ganondorf's grab, imagine a falling BF with someone tethered onto his baloon string like a lead balloon!
As for his up special, perhaps a balloon-less up would have BF launch himself into the air, only to wave his arms and panic and land butt first back to the ground, a sort of short height butt-slam, like Bowser and Dedede has!
Also, I would assume the different colored balloons in alt costumes would be a given, so that they look different on the field. Is why I liked the idea of Tingle special alt using Majora's Mask balloons!
Shin F.
Smash Master
PMBR does watch this thread to get an idea of what we want. Whether it sways them or not is up to them.
Yeah, that would be good. Different balloon colors for different costumes.
Does anyone know if he has any power-ups or anything? I haven't played Balloon Fight since before I can remember, so I'm not sure.
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TimeSmash
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I don't think he has any power-ups, although in the Balloon Tour or whatever the alternate mode is called, there was a bubble you could hit that would stop the screen from scrolling. Bubbles in the regular mode came up after a fish ate the enemy, and you popped them for 500 points. But I'd avoid the fish for now, and anything too stage themed due to the Balloon Fight stage in Smash 4.
I was thinking more like just random colors in general, but I can dig that. Like green balloons for green Balloon Fighter, but maybe still with patterns or faces. A lot of patterns or textures could be ripped from Pinball, a game I apparently won't shut up about today
Sour Supreme
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Balloon Fighter needs rockin' aerial game. It's time that someone contests Mewtwo.
He shouldn't be completely defenseless when his balloons are gone, but he should certainly be better in air.
If his Final Smash isn't a giant War Zeppelin attached to his back that fires missiles I'm out.
He shouldn't be completely defenseless when his balloons are gone, but he should certainly be better in air.
If his Final Smash isn't a giant War Zeppelin attached to his back that fires missiles I'm out.
Darkmask
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His final smash would be something similar to Jigglypuff's, he would pull out a Mega Balloon with a M on it, and blow it up huge before it explodes! Devastating on small stages!
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TimeSmash
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TECHNICALLLLLLLLLLY, you could draw inspiration from the game Balloon Duel, but anything that is blatant copying from that game is asking for it. No idea who created it.
Link: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/177120
Link: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/177120
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To start off, I never dismissed the use of Hedgehog DNA. Splicing is just another process of genetically altering something.
Second, what I was referring to was a theory I accidentally mixed up with canonical information. I took my time trying to find the information and just realized I done goofed. But I do work heavily with canonical and theoretical information in this series for a lot of my own Sonic related work. The information just kind of blends overtime. Sorry about that Saito.
Though, the theory isn't really that far fetched. The theory was based loosely on the fact Gerald created Artificial Chaos, and therefore had some archaeological history with Angel Island. Angel Island contained the Hidden Palace and the Super Sonic Mural, which many believed he stumbled upon. This led to Shadow's Super Sonic like quill pattern, golden spindash trail, and rocket shoes to resemble flight. But yeah. Just theoretical ****. My apologies again.
Second, what I was referring to was a theory I accidentally mixed up with canonical information. I took my time trying to find the information and just realized I done goofed. But I do work heavily with canonical and theoretical information in this series for a lot of my own Sonic related work. The information just kind of blends overtime. Sorry about that Saito.
Though, the theory isn't really that far fetched. The theory was based loosely on the fact Gerald created Artificial Chaos, and therefore had some archaeological history with Angel Island. Angel Island contained the Hidden Palace and the Super Sonic Mural, which many believed he stumbled upon. This led to Shadow's Super Sonic like quill pattern, golden spindash trail, and rocket shoes to resemble flight. But yeah. Just theoretical ****. My apologies again.
I can agree with this. But they never state that they used a hedgehog or hedgehog DNA to compose him. At least not to my knowledge. I was always under the impression that he only appears to be a hedgehog since he was an artificially developed life form. But it can be implied that he is an artificially cloned hedgehog.
I had asked the same question, but the Biolizard's development took place before Gerald had contact with the Black Arms. Hence why it is a failed prototype on life support.
It is only an opinion. Besides. You are telling me that PMBR wouldn't do something cool like this:
Boss spoilers from Kirby Super Star Ultra - Triple Deluxe. View at your own risk.
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Shin F.
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Not what I was laughing at, at all.To start off, I never dismissed the use of Hedgehog DNA. Splicing is just another process of genetically altering something.
Second, what I was referring to was a theory I accidentally mixed up with canonical information. I took my time trying to find the information and just realized I done goofed. But I do work heavily with canonical and theoretical information in this series for a lot of my own Sonic related work. The information just kind of blends overtime. Sorry about that Saito.
Though, the theory isn't really that far fetched. The theory was based loosely on the fact Gerald created Artificial Chaos, and therefore had some archaeological history with Angel Island. Angel Island contained the Hidden Palace and the Super Sonic Mural, which many believed he stumbled upon. This led to Shadow's Super Sonic like quill pattern, golden spindash trail, and rocket shoes to resemble flight. But yeah. Just theoretical ****. My apologies again.
I can agree with this. But they never state that they used a hedgehog or hedgehog DNA to compose him. At least not to my knowledge. I was always under the impression that he only appears to be a hedgehog since he was an artificially developed life form. But it can be implied that he is an artificially cloned hedgehog.
I had asked the same question, but the Biolizard's development took place before Gerald had contact with the Black Arms. Hence why it is a failed prototype on life support.
It is only an opinion. Besides. You are telling me that PMBR wouldn't do something cool like this:
For this underwhelming final boss?Boss spoilers from Kirby Super Star Ultra - Triple Deluxe. View at your own risk.![]()
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It's just that we're talking about Project M, so bringing up Sakurai is a little beside the point.
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