New AT- Raptor Grabbing

[Jelley]

This is something I found accidently when in the training room. I don't know if this technique has been found or not, so sorry if it has been.

Everything is explained in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ChGP3YcGMw

 

[Lionman]

Well this is an interesting technique, but i think you can die if you do bad timming, is really risky.

Its good to see things like this because some people can find any use, if you ask me i dont like that AT, im going to test it next month in a smashfest

 

[Jelley]

It honestly isn't that risky considering how easy it is to pull off. However, I'll admit that it is not easy to do on Battlefield and wouldn't be worth doing it. If you try it yourself I'm sure that you will find it to be quite easy to do.

 

[KMFBrawler]

This already exists, but without the wall jump.

 

[Jelley]

How do you do it without the walljump? And the purpose for this is to plank and without the walljump for this you can't plank.

 

[PZ]

I think he means the onstage version where you hit down at the right moment and ive been doing this for awhile but ive mostly wanted a walljump reverse falcon punch=(

 

[Jelley]

Well if that is what he means then I don't know why he would say that it is the same thing, the purpose of that is to edge hog and the purpose of this is to plank

and you can do a wall jump reverse falcon punch on Battlefield

 

[PZ]

Of course there is 3 versions of this if you havent noticed.
1st one is where the full raptor boost comes out and you grab the edge.
2nd one is where the red glowin hand comes out but u grab immediately.
3rd one is basically this where no animation comes out of raptor and you grab the edge as if you instantly grab the edge.

 

[Jelley]

Well with what I'm demonstrating you are doing it correctly if you do the "2nd and 3rd one"

 

[Zeallyx]

This isnt an AT, but logically thinking, imo.

Good stuff, though.

 

[Zatchiel]

LOL Falcon will now begin timing people out.

 

[teluoborg]

Firstly it's nice to show it on this many stages, I was just doing it on FD, never tried on things like PS1 or CS.

Secondly you can't plank with it because you spend wayyyy too much time while not invincible. And since you're not attacking either during this time (because you need to time your second jump and your wall jump), you're very vulnerable to attacks during this window of time. Especially lingering/multiple hitboxes.

But you can time your edgehog with that, so it's a good edgeguard technique.

Edit : you can also use raptor boost to semi-speed hug.
Like, run off the ledge, hold backwards and press B. It's like hugging but slower, so it lets you delay your invi frames.

 

[BigLord]

I like it too. Not exactly an AT, but 'tis cool.

Anything that makes Captain Falcon faster is fair game for me :D

 

[Psychoace]

I thought I told everyone about this in '08 when I figured out you could also drop down and raptor boost away from the stage and it would auto-snap?

It's more useful to up air or back air off the wall anyway.

 

[Jelley]

Yeah this probably isn't actually good for planking. The only thing I could really see it being used for is when you want to walljump without going past the edge, I don't think that there would be that many times where that would happen/or when you would want to do that.

 

[Pktck]

Neat! It kinda reminds me of the thingy Link can do to edgehog with his clawshot.

 

[BigLord]

Except Link can't actually "edgehog" with his clawshot, since he's completely vulnerable while clawing the edge.

(doesn't have edgearmor)

 

[Pktck]

But can't be let go of the edge and clawshot it immediately after to get some invulnerable frames?

 

[teluoborg]

No.

But with tether recoveries you can be untouchable by some recoveries, even if you're not invincible. Examples being other tethers or things with just a final hitbox like Sheik/Zelda's up B.

 

[Pktck]

Ah! Neat. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Napos]

How do you correctly to the side-b (sorry don't know the name) and grab the edge without killing yourself?

 

[BigLord]

^It's mostly automatic. Try it out yourself, it's really easy. You don't really have to do it in a very precise timing. Edge-snap makes it a breeze.

Now if this were project M or Melee, then yeah... 'twould be hard.

 

[Zeallyx]

TC is obvsly Jelley

Also, this thread's prolly the best one on here atm.

Hurry up with your metagame thread, teluo

 

[Jigglymaster]

*Falcon goes under the stage to preform a wall jump but then gets dair'd by MK into a stage spike and dies*

Pretty risky for something that hardly has any reward. You're better off just dropping and then double jumping back to the ledge.

 

[Psychoace]

Then you tech it and punish. It's still not worth using though.

 

[Jelley]

*Falcon goes under the stage to preform a wall jump but then gets dair'd by MK into a stage spike and dies*

Pretty risky for something that hardly has any reward. You're better off just dropping and then double jumping back to the ledge.

As I said I was wrong about using this for planking. You should only use this when you are using a walljump to recover, it will help because you won't walljump past the edge because it causes you to grab it instead.

 

[philijosh]

New Name

Now called "Raptor Hugging".

 

[teluoborg]

No, raptor hugging is when you side B from the stage and FF to catch the ledge instead of falling to your doom.

This is raptor fast ledge snap.

 

[philijosh]

My bad

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Darky-Sama]

This is actually a pretty old AT.
Ledge drop > jump > raptor ledge grab.

The video makes it look more useful from a wall jump than I found for it though. lol

 

[Global Gaming]

i've been doing this since 09 :L

- Willz

 

[CaptainFalcon9000]

nice, another captain falcon technique that we can use to help ourselves agains´t metaknights........if only the falcon punch had super armor frames then captain falcon would be god tier

 

[Zeallyx]

nice, another captain falcon technique that we can use to help ourselves agains´t metaknights........if only the falcon punch had super armor frames then captain falcon would be god tier

Then there would still be shielding, jumping and not beeing an idiot keeping falcon from beeing god tier.

 

[BigLord]

Captain Falcon's main problem is not his Falcon Punch... lol, the Falcon Punch is very situat-*realizes he's arguing something with CF9K*

*slaps self in the face*

 

[CaptainFalcon9000]

Captain Falcon's main problem is not his Falcon Punch... lol, the Falcon Punch is very situat-*realizes he's arguing something with CF9K*

*slaps self in the face*

before you make me look more like and idiot i was just joking....... i know CF main problem is his priority, long startup and ending lag for almost every attack, bad and punishable recovery and....*notices that im arguing with biglord in his troll form*

 

[BigLord]

look more like an* idiot.



Anyway, I've tried to use this in a serious match yesterday. Didn't work (I was too slow, to quote Sonic), but I hit the opponent with RB anyway so... whatever, heh. And aerial RB is safe on hit from that position (you can easily return to the ledge), soo... whatever. Just wanted to point it out.

 

[DarkChronosColdsteel]

This new tech will allow me to... do... more fancy suicides...

 

[Jelley]

The only fancy suicide is when you Falcon Punch someone off stage

 

[Zeallyx]

The only fancy suicide is when you Falcon Punch someone off stage

One can recover from that..

 

[BigLord]

Not when you're fast falling, lmao