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Ness Possibilities

Kazydai

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Totally different? He has a pole that works the same way as the bat, they're similar enough to be redundant.
That's one move. Tilts and aerials are very different. Not trying to be a jerk, anything, just pointing it out. Besides their were some chracters in melee who shared similar moves, as well.

Ness and Peach's Aerial Neutral A
Mario and C. Falcon's Aerial Up A
Ness and Donkey Kong's Aerial Down A
Samus and C. Falcon's Up Tilt A

Just to name a few.
 

Algus Underdunk

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Yeah, I've only played the first two. I know what you guys mean, though. There are soo many people who want Ness, or who want Lucas over Ness, and they don't know anything about Ness or Lucas, or have played their games. They're just goin off of coolness factor.

People say that Lucas is better than Ness because he has a final smash. THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!!

You know what? Screw it all and put Ninten in...>_<
Awesome, lil' Ninten!

Having played all of them, I can really say I want them for different reasons.

For Ness, he recalls an awesome game that was essentially a road-trip in real life with friends, fighting hippies, exploring cities, finding secrets, beating up zombies and aliens, etc. It was like a cheesy movie come to life, and it really, really made an impression on me.

For Lucas, his game is equally absorbing, but for different reasons. Ness's game is definitely more upbeat than Lucas's, while Lucas is essentially, well, a terrorist in his game. (Albeit he's fighting in a wicked society imposed by the main villain so it's understandable.)

Both of them have more than enough moves that they could be well playable and BOTH be in the game. Personally I want both of them back.

Besides, there are still plenty of moves that haven't been touched upon. If PK Flash could become an aerial blast of green energy, just imagine what PK Brainshock could be... there's PsychicShield, Explosives, Healing, PK Special, PK Starstorm just finally appeared now, PK Teleport, etc. A lot of moves ready to go.
 

Kazydai

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Awesome, lil' Ninten!

Having played all of them, I can really say I want them for different reasons.

For Ness, he recalls an awesome game that was essentially a road-trip in real life with friends, fighting hippies, exploring cities, finding secrets, beating up zombies and aliens, etc. It was like a cheesy movie come to life, and it really, really made an impression on me.

For Lucas, his game is equally absorbing, but for different reasons. Ness's game is definitely more upbeat than Lucas's, while Lucas is essentially, well, a terrorist in his game. (Albeit he's fighting in a wicked society imposed by the main villain so it's understandable.)

Both of them have more than enough moves that they could be well playable and BOTH be in the game. Personally I want both of them back.

Besides, there are still plenty of moves that haven't been touched upon. If PK Flash could become an aerial blast of green energy, just imagine what PK Brainshock could be... there's PsychicShield, Explosives, Healing, PK Special, PK Starstorm just finally appeared now, PK Teleport, etc. A lot of moves ready to go.
Yup, Earthbound, to this day, is on my top 5 best games list. And you're right, there are so many moves that could be distributed between the two.
 

Kazydai

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Who's to say that this will be the same in Brawl?
Sonic and Pikachu have the same aerial foward A
Yoshi and Bowser can butt stomp (Down B)
Meta Knight can teleport. Just like Zelda.
Dedede pulls stuff out throws it...just like Peach.
Pit shoots arrows...just like Link.

Yup.
 

NessOnett

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Then quote the right person.
I'm not allowed to respond to multiple people in a single quote?(and i wasnt sure who said the PK similarity, just that it was mentioned...and i thought by multiple people)
 

Meta_Sonic64

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Sonic and Pikachu have the same aerial foward A
Yoshi and Bowser can butt stomp (Down B)
Meta Knight can teleport. Just like Zelda.
Dedede pulls stuff out throws it...just like Peach.
Pit shoots arrows...just like Link.

Yup.
You forget that Lucas and Ness have practically the same B moves. All these you've just listed, don't
 

NessOnett

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Technically, I can relax, as my favorite thing from Mother 3 has already appeared in Brawl. Mr.Saturn's Tea Table.

...Now let's hope for a New Age Retro Hippie trophy from Earthbound...
personally, i'd like to see a starman AT, but that's just me(i dont think mother has any ATs does it?)
 

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In the chance Ness actually returns

HE WILL NOT GET A COMPLETELY NEW MOVESET...


stop bringing that up because it will NEVER happen
 

Algus Underdunk

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In the chance Ness actually returns

HE WILL NOT GET A COMPLETELY NEW MOVESET...


stop bringing that up because it will NEVER happen
I don't think anyone's suggesting THAT, but that he will get several new moves. Heck, MARIO got a replaced special move. It would be no small stretch of the imagination to see Ness with a few new special moves.
 

Meta_Sonic64

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I don't think anyone's suggesting THAT, but that he will get several new moves. Heck, MARIO got a replaced special move. It would be no small stretch of the imagination to see Ness with a few new special moves.
Yea, but that was one move. Also note that Sakurai seems to hint at Sunshine, which is why Mario received FLUDD.
 

Meta_Sonic64

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Meta Sonic 64 is right, I dont think Sakurai would want to take the time to give ness a new movset with the time thats left and seeing how there is a second Mother spot, its going to be Claus for sure.
lol time left? The game has "gone gold" or in other words, is already made. Only thing now is to wait for the release and updates which will resume on January 7th
 

Kooichi

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He doesn't have a source...

It's called "assuming"
Actually its true. Go to the Japanese Melee website and babelfish Ness's profile. It says he was going to be replaced by Lucas but they didn't have enough time :O

Also, I bet Ness will be an alt. That'd be the best for him IMO XD
 

PrettyGoodYear

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I'm not allowed to respond to multiple people in a single quote?(and i wasnt sure who said the PK similarity, just that it was mentioned...and i thought by multiple people)
Eh... well, you can multi-quote, you know that? When you quote me and only me, it looks like you're responding to me, and only me.

N-E-WAYZ....

The Mother series needs to move on. Ness is outdated, as sad as I am to admit it, and having him in Brawl won't bring anything new to the table. Claus is a villain and Lucas's brother, and from the Mother game that, from the looks of it, is getting repped. I do believe things from Mother 1 and 2 could get (Assist?) Trophied, and we'll definately get music from those games.
 

Meta_Sonic64

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Eh... well, you can multi-quote, you know that? When you quote me and only me, it looks like you're responding to me, and only me.

N-E-WAYZ....

The Mother series needs to move on. Ness is outdated, as sad as I am to admit it, and having him in Brawl won't bring anything new to the table. Claus is a villain and Lucas's brother, and from the Mother game that, from the looks of it, is getting repped. I do believe things from Mother 1 and 2 could get (Assist?) Trophied, and we'll definately get music from those games.
Possible ATs, trophies, music.
 

Kazydai

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Ness is outdated? Um...Ice Climbers...Pit...the last time they made a game, I wasn't even born!!! Although Earthbound (of Mother 2) is an old game, at least the series has kept going.
 
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