naked man killed by police while eating another naked man's face off

[Luigitoilet]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/26/2818832/naked-man-shot-killed-on-macarthur.html

One man was shot to death by Miami police, and another man is fighting for his life after he was attacked and his face allegedly half eaten, by a naked man on the MacArthur Causeway off ramp, police said.

The bloodshed began about 2 p.m. when a series of gunshots were heard on the ramp, which is along NE 13th Street, just south of The Miami Herald building. Witnesses said a woman saw the two men fighting and flagged down a police officer who was in the area.

The officer, who has not been identified, approached and saw that the naked man was actually chewing the other man’s head, according to witnesses. The officer ordered the naked man to back away, and when he continued the assault, the officer shot him. The attacker continued to eat the man, despite being shot, forcing the officer to continue firing. Witnesses said they heard at least a half dozen shots.

Miami police were on the scene, which was just south of The Miami Herald building on Biscayne Boulevard. The naked man who was killed lay face down on the pedestrian walkway just below the newspaper’s two-story parking garage. Police requested The Herald’s video surveillance tapes.

The other man was transported to the hospital with critical injuries, according to police. Their identities were not released.

The incident, which came as crowds descended upon South Beach for the annual Urban Beach Week hip-hop festival, snarled traffic on the causeway for several hours.

In a text message, Javier Ortiz, spokesman for Miami police’s Fraternal Order of Police, said the officer who fired the fatal shots was “a hero.”

“Based on the information provided, our Miami police officer is a hero and saved a life,’’ he said.

Sergeant Altarr Williams, supervisor of Miami police’s Homicide Unit, said a man doesn’t have to be armed to be dangerous.

“There are other ways to injure people,’’ Williams said. “Some people know martial arts, others are very strong and can kill you with their hands.’’

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in a long time. Not at all surprised this happened in Florida. Living here has driven me to nihilism.

This article is pretty vague unfortunately. Was the victim conscious and able while his face was getting chewed off? What were his injuries like? I'm assuming he was just beaten unconscious since the article doesn't mention either guy being armed...

which brings me to another point, it's kinda unnerving that this cop shot an unarmed guy "dozens" of times and he's being hailed as a "hero". I have no doubts about this anymore; Americans live in a police state. This is one thing that really infuriates me when I sit down and think about it.

also, to think that this whole situation could have been avoided. If the victim had a gun he could have really saved face in this scenario.

try to limit your "hilarious" zombie jokes to a minimum unless you are positive that it is really fresh and hilarious

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

How about:

I think the Mayans were on to something. Maybe 2012 really IS the end of the world

 

[Luigitoilet]

that's about .00000000000000000000002% less trite than a zombie joke so good job I guess!

edit: forgot to post this in the OP

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Got another one, though this one is probably too risque, so I'm going to censor it:

Edited out joke. Still inappropriate, even after putting in spoiler tags. Sorry mate. ~Werekill

 

[Holder of the Heel]

I looked this up because of how bizarre it is, and there seem to be some articles that claim there was a physical struggle before shots were resorted to. Others have comments that have people saying that apparently the story was changed multiple times and it never initially had anything to do with cannibalism. Not really sure what to believe with this.

 

[Master Xanthan]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/26/2818832/naked-man-shot-killed-on-macarthur.html



This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in a long time. Not at all surprised this happened in Florida. Living here has driven me to nihilism.

This article is pretty vague unfortunately. Was the victim conscious and able while his face was getting chewed off? What were his injuries like? I'm assuming he was just beaten unconscious since the article doesn't mention either guy being armed...

which brings me to another point, it's kinda unnerving that this cop shot an unarmed guy "dozens" of times and he's being hailed as a "hero". I have no doubts about this anymore; Americans live in a police state. This is one thing that really infuriates me when I sit down and think about it.

also, to think that this whole situation could have been avoided. If the victim had a gun he could have really saved face in this scenario.

try to limit your "hilarious" zombie jokes to a minimum unless you are positive that it is really fresh and hilarious

Considering the guy kept on trying to eat the other guy's face off even after being shot the first time, he deserved the multiple shots. Even if he's unarmed, from what it sounds like, he's pretty dangerous.

Edit: Just read Holder's post. So....the dude wasn't trying to eat the guy's face off? That would definitely change my opinion on the matter.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Considering the guy kept on trying to eat the other guy's face off even after being shot the first time, he deserved the multiple shots. Even if he's unarmed, from what it sounds like, he's pretty dangerous.

Edit: Just read Holder's post. So....the dude wasn't trying to eat the guy's face off? That would definitely change my opinion on the matter.

I feel like this is what we made tasers for. Going straight from "hey man, stop eating that guy's face!" to shooting them a dozen times is just creepy to me.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The initial report they didn't report he was eating his face. He DID eat the guys face, but for some bizarre reason the new reporters either didn't know about that, or didn't feel it was important


There is NOTHING wrong with the cop shooting this freak eating someone's face

Not only that, but the man didn't react to being shot.

It should be mentioned the guy he was eating WAS STILL alive and he kept carving away at his flesh even after cops warned him and even shot him

 

[Master Xanthan]

I feel like this is what we made tasers for. Going straight from "hey man, stop eating that guy's face!" to shooting them a dozen times is just creepy to me.

Idk, couldn't the taser harm the other guy too though? If the officer has good aim it might be easier to just shoot the attacker. Plus the other guy's life was being threatened, IMO its completely justified. Put yourself in the victim's situation, would you care about the officer using a kind of tactic that lets a maniac live? Frankly if the guy is a cannibal its probably best that he's dead anyway. I know it sounds bad to say that, but if the cannibal is alive, he could harm other people in the future. But now that the attacker is dead, no one else will be harmed by him ever again and that's a good thing.

 

[Luigitoilet]

No. if he's a cannibal he should be detained and arrested and then subjected to psych evaluation and therapy.

I also am not seeing the difference between aiming a taser at someone and aiming a gun at someone that makes it somehow safer to choose the gun. Worse case scenario with the taser is is you might tase the wrong guy which would be unpleasant. Worst case scenario with a gun is you kill an innocent person.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, humans are animals. And from the perspective of the ever onward cycle of evolution it's better to remove people that can pass down defective genes

Besides, do you really think he'd be able to live a decent life after committing these crimes?

 

[Master Xanthan]

No. if he's a cannibal he should be detained and arrested and then subjected to psych evaluation and therapy.

I also am not seeing the difference between aiming a taser at someone and aiming a gun at someone that makes it somehow safer to choose the gun. Worse case scenario with the taser is is you might tase the wrong guy which would be unpleasant. Worst case scenario with a gun is you kill an innocent person.

Idk a lot about psychology, so excuse my lack of knowledge, but exactly how effective is therapy, especially considering how messed up the attacker is? Even with therapy isn't there a chance that the guy could still attack someone in the same manner? If there's even a chance something horrific like this could happen again then its probably for the best that the guy is dead. The safety of the public is more important than some crazy cannibal IMO.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Well, humans are animals. And from the perspective of the ever onward cycle of evolution it's better to remove people that can pass down defective genes

That's literally the same argument that started Nazism.

 

[Spelt]

IIRC, jews never tried to eat people's faces off.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Psycho was speaking in general societal and Darwinistic terms, not about this specific case.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Idk a lot about psychology, so excuse my lack of knowledge, but exactly how effective is therapy, especially considering how messed up the attacker is? Even with therapy isn't there a chance that the guy could still attack someone in the same manner? If there's even a chance something horrific like this could happen again then its probably for the best that the guy is dead. The safety of the public is more important than some crazy cannibal IMO.

The idea isn't to just give him therapy and let him out into the world. It's very possible he may never be fit to live in society. He needs to be put away somewhere.

Killing him is still wrong.

 

[Jonas]

Wut? How? Why? Why were they naked? What were they doing there? I mean this is so bizzare o_O

 

[Luigitoilet]

PCP is my best guess. Would explain the violence, the nudity and the fact that the guy apparently didn't stop chewing even after he had been shot.

 

[Pluvia]

From these vague details I guess the police could've tried to detain him with a baton maybe, but at the same time the police in the US hold guns, and if someone who is holding a gun tells you to stop you stop. Especially if you're naked.

A tazer is electrical, and would also harm the victim, so it would be out of the question.

 

[Spelt]

Psycho was speaking in general societal and Darwinistic terms, not about this specific case.

Yes but this specific case is still relevant consider that's what we're currently discussing. The comparison is naturally going to come up.

 

[Shorts]

In all honesty, what was the cop supposed to do? If being shot didn't deter him... what would? I mean, do we save the guy getting his face chewed off, or do we let him die and save the guy chewing a face off?

If there is a way to save both, it should have been done, but, I gotta say, even for a cop, seeing something LIKE THAT, could put anyone on edge, so, I can see why, IF, he did have a weapon that could have somehow stopped the face chewing, and save the chewer's life, he might of forgot about it.

Not that that's an excuse to kill someone. BUT STILL, I don't see how people can be TOO upset about what happened.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Plus, in the state the man was in, tazer's and pepper spray are known to be completely ineffective

If a gun shot was ineffective, why would you expect a less lethal weapon to do any better?

 

[Morin0]

5 taser guns and a K9 unit

 

[Luigitoilet]

A tazer is electrical, and would also harm the victim, so it would be out of the question.

Oops, I'm dumb and didn't even consider that.

Plus, in the state the man was in, tazer's and pepper spray are known to be completely ineffective

If a gun shot was ineffective, why would you expect a less lethal weapon to do any better?

what state was the man in? also pepper spray is not ineffective.

as for your second question, hindsight is 20/20. It makes me uneasy that he went straight for gun before pepper spray is all I'm saying.

but who knows, maybe he did do something else to detain the guy before he shot him. hopefully a more reliable and detailed report comes about.

 

[Luigitoilet]

oops, sorry!!!!!

 

[Shorts]

I mean it would suck kinda if he went straight to shooting, but, worse **** is happening elsewhere, so, *shrugs*

 

[Master Xanthan]

Oops, I'm dumb and didn't even consider that.



what state was the man in? also pepper spray is not ineffective.

as for your second question, hindsight is 20/20. It makes me uneasy that he went straight for gun before pepper spray is all I'm saying.

but who knows, maybe he did do something else to detain the guy before he shot him. hopefully a more reliable and detailed report comes about.

Idk if pepper spray would have been a good idea, you gotta get the guy in the eyes, and since he's facing the victim's face, the pepper spray could make contact with the victim as well (and also would make contact with his wounds). The cop was probably afraid to physically pull the attacker off because the cop was probably afraid the attacker would try and gnaw his face off too. Considering all of that, shooting the attacker seems like the best option.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Oops, I'm dumb and didn't even consider that.



what state was the man in? also pepper spray is not ineffective.

as for your second question, hindsight is 20/20. It makes me uneasy that he went straight for gun before pepper spray is all I'm saying.

but who knows, maybe he did do something else to detain the guy before he shot him. hopefully a more reliable and detailed report comes about.

He's one in a state known as "Drug Burnout"

People in that state have extremely dulled senses, they cannot feel pain, they have super human strength.

They also have an extremely high temperature. Tazer's might have, in fact, killed him anyway.

Their body is wasting away

 

[Luigitoilet]

I mean it would suck kinda if he went straight to shooting, but, worse **** is happening elsewhere, so, *shrugs*

well I guess we better just not talk about anything ever, since there's always something worse happening somewhere

 

[Shorts]

well I guess we better just not talk about anything ever, since there's always something worse happening somewhere

Good.

Mod, come lock this thread? We've figured it out.

 

[Dre89]

I mean it would suck kinda if he went straight to shooting, but, worse **** is happening elsewhere, so, *shrugs*

I could edit this quote to apply it to so many different scenarios to show how ridiculous this statement is, but there's just too many options to choose from.

 

[Lore]

Keep it civil here, guys. Although nothing has really happened yet, I see a lot of potential for badly heated arguments to build up. Stay cool.

Anyway, it's sad that this happened, but I agree with Psycho that he was likely in major drug burnout. I can easily see why shooting could have been needed in that situation. It still sucks that someone died, though.

 

[rinisan]

Stupid drug addicts

 

[Luigitoilet]

welp, some photos of the crime scene, and of the victim in the ER have surfaced.

all I have to say now is I don't really blame the cop for shooting this guy, because holy **** was that a grisly scene

 

[Vinylic.]

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...mi-naked-zombie-was-likely-high-on-bath-salts

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

It's really sad and tragic but what I find even more disturbed are little ****s who are disappointed that this wasn't the start of a zombie apocalypse. They need to be smacked.

I think the officer had every right to shoot to kill. He was dangerous to know only the man he mauled but to the officer and all the bystanders. I hope law enforcements starts cracking down on these "bath salts". They look like they could be the next hard drug and, as we saw this weekend, cause some damage publicly. Imagine a whole gang of people hyped up on this ****. I guess it has a track record for making people wanting to bite other people.

 

[Master Xanthan]

It's really sad and tragic but what I find even more disturbed are little ****s who are disappointed that this wasn't the start of a zombie apocalypse. They need to be smacked.

I think the officer had every right to shoot to kill. He was dangerous to know only the man he mauled but to the officer and all the bystanders. I hope law enforcements starts cracking down on these "bath salts". They look like they could be the next hard drug and, as we saw this weekend, cause some damage publicly. Imagine a whole gang of people hyped up on this ****. I guess it has a track record for making people wanting to bite other people.

So you're saying that drug can make other people have the same reaction, turning them into crazy cannibals? Wow, yeah they really need to crack down on that.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Apparently bath salts do not show up in any typical drug test, so even once the results come in we won't be sure if they played a part.

and yeah, now I do believe the cop had right to shoot...but still, to be hailed as a "hero"? that's going a little far.

 

[Flayl]

http://www.northjersey.com/news/Hackensack_man_stabs_self_throws_intenstines_at_police.html

The officers ordered him to drop the 12-inch kitchen knife, but he didn’t. Carter is accused of swinging the knife at officers, police said. The officers sprayed two cans of pepper spray at the man without any effect.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

So you're saying that drug can make other people have the same reaction, turning them into crazy cannibals? Wow, yeah they really need to crack down on that.

More or less. It causes people turn become extremely violent, volatile, and dangerous. I imagine it varies person to person but, with the introduction to this new drug, we might see this happen again eelsewhere.