Social Mr. Game & Watch Social - The Flat Zone

[ROBnWatch]

I couldn't think of anyone that would be a good fit until I saw this. This needs to happen.

WHAT?!?! REALLY?!?! I understand that he could have a unique moveset but isn't 2 Marios enough?!?! And I already hate one of em (Screw you, Doc)!

 

[WindozeNT]

WHAT?!?! REALLY?!?! I understand that he could have a unique moveset but isn't 2 Marios enough?!?! And I already hate one of em (Screw you, Doc)!

so much this. we don't need another Mario clone. Vote Rayman or Ice Climbers.

 

[~N9NE~]

Hi all! Long time Smashboards user, finally committing as a SSB4 Game and Watch main. Looking forward to frequenting these parts of the forums!

 

[GMan1255]

Who are game & watch players voting for as DLC, my picks:

Paper Mario
Shovel Knight
Dig Dug

Paper Mario is quite interesting actually because it would be awesome to have a second 2D character in the world of Sm4sh. However, I am supporting a friend of mine in who they want as a character, and that would be Raichu. Besides, if Pikachu had a weak clone in Melee, why not have a strong one in the same way that Mario has Doc

 

[SeanS]

Who are game & watch players voting for as DLC, my picks:

Paper Mario
Shovel Knight
Dig Dug

Geno and Banjo - their games were console defining and they would have very specific styles of play in this game.

 

[GMan1255]

Geno and Banjo - their games were console defining and they would have very specific styles of play in this game.

Geno, yes I need to Geno Whirl the **** out of people!

 

[ROBnWatch]

As of yesterday, here's our top 15, stats collected from a survey on Reddit. Not sure if the characters are in any order.

 

[lllp3lll]

so much this. we don't need another Mario clone.

Hopefully they wouldn't make him a clone, in Paper Mario games he fights using hammer moves, jumping and "spells", so they'd have a lot they could work with. Even his staple hammer attack was a charge like smash attack. I'd be happy with a Heavy Swordsmen style Mario, or mini Ike.

Also I too hated the idea of Doc in this game since on face value its a clone character, but I love his play-style being a ganon like plummer.

Namco helped making sm4sh so getting the rights for Dig Dug makes sense to me.

On the other hand I'm scared of the up coming patch, I know the belief is G&W is a weak character because:
Can't kill, dies at 20%.
He's 2D (paper thin) and fast it makes sense for him to die early.

The worst thing I feel would be to make his moves kill earlier in exchange for weakening his grab game.

 

[Neb]

I am hoping they let him be. It seems intentional that they have made him a character revolved around the grab - having the quickest startup, and as a counterbalance to his light weight. If anything, docking a few frames from the landing on bair would be more than enough. I would hate to see them trade usmash's i-frames for stronger smashes.

 

[WindozeNT]

were you ever able to find out what dairs triggered that glitch?

 

[SeanS]

The worst thing I feel would be to make his moves kill earlier in exchange for weakening his grab game

That would be ******** even by Sakurai's standards.

Honestly, I doubt we are getting any buffs - people are overestimating the breadth of this patch out of sheer optimism.

If I got any, though, really, all I want on this character is a uthrow that kills at 130% on normalweights. This would make him very consistent competitively and it would be completely fair for him to have.

 

[Neb]

were you ever able to find out what dairs triggered that glitch?

I'll be away from my console until June, so I have to convince other G&W mains to test things for me.

 

[Kevandre]

Figured I'd post my silhouettes... G&W isn't probably that exciting though.

 

[SeanS]

I could barely tell it was him.

 

[Kevandre]

I could barely tell it was him.

I confused him with Lucario tbh

 

[ROBnWatch]

I confused him with Lucario tbh

Are you kidding? It's obviously Toon Link.

 

[Folie]

Hi is this where I introduce myself? too late im doing it. Just joined smashboards, started playing smash more seriously at the end of January, picked up G&W somewhere in February on a whim after realizing I wasn't having any fun playing Sheik and haven't found anyone else on ssb4 more fun to play than G&W. Looking forward to using the resources here to improve myself, hopefully I can get some gameplay videos up here for some criticism after some upcoming tournaments. I don't own a Wii U so getting practice in is a struggle :\

but yeah hi

EDIT: I missed the multiple hard-to-miss things telling me not to make this type of post here my b pls don't tell

 

[SFA Smiley]

You're straight.

Our board is pretty well behaved, and I'm pretty chill about most stuff.

Congratulations on discovering the coolest character in the game, though.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Hi is this where I introduce myself? too late im doing it. Just joined smashboards, started playing smash more seriously at the end of January, picked up G&W somewhere in February on a whim after realizing I wasn't having any fun playing Sheik and haven't found anyone else on ssb4 more fun to play than G&W. Looking forward to using the resources here to improve myself, hopefully I can get some gameplay videos up here for some criticism after some upcoming tournaments. I don't own a Wii U so getting practice in is a struggle :\

but yeah hi

EDIT: I missed the multiple hard-to-miss things telling me not to make this type of post here my b pls don't tell

Welcome to the community! Seems you've got one part of G&W down right, he's fun. And as long as you've got a character who you think is fun and enjoyable, you'll do alright. I'm probably not the best one to ask for competitive advice, but I'll answer what I can.

Welcome to the G&W boards.

 

[SeanS]

Hi is this where I introduce myself? too late im doing it. Just joined smashboards, started playing smash more seriously at the end of January, picked up G&W somewhere in February on a whim after realizing I wasn't having any fun playing Sheik and haven't found anyone else on ssb4 more fun to play than G&W. Looking forward to using the resources here to improve myself, hopefully I can get some gameplay videos up here for some criticism after some upcoming tournaments. I don't own a Wii U so getting practice in is a struggle :\

but yeah hi

EDIT: I missed the multiple hard-to-miss things telling me not to make this type of post here my b pls don't tell

Tries to play the game seriously? Check.

Can't have fun with any other character? Check. (You have been sucked into the G&W curse, there is no escape.)

Started on 3DS and had no Wii U for a time? Check.

Want to improve? Check.

You and I are going to have a lot to talk about. See you around.

 

[Folie]

thanks for the warm welcome everyone I do plan on getting a wii u sometime, I just have to get around to selling some stuff I don't use anymore so I can justify spending a few hundred dollars on videogames to myself when I've spent the last year playing one non-monthly/weekly payment MMO and practically nothing else

having watched a bunch of gameplay vids, I'd say there's definitely a lot of work to done. My biggest issue right now is getting grabs, I have problems getting close enough for them, though I've noticed from vids that I could be grabbing out of jab when atm I'm just doing the full jab chain.

 

[ROBnWatch]

thanks for the warm welcome everyone I do plan on getting a wii u sometime, I just have to get around to selling some stuff I don't use anymore so I can justify spending a few hundred dollars on videogames to myself when I've spent the last year playing one non-monthly/weekly payment MMO and practically nothing else

having watched a bunch of gameplay vids, I'd say there's definitely a lot of work to done. My biggest issue right now is getting grabs, I have problems getting close enough for them, though I've noticed from vids that I could be grabbing out of jab when atm I'm just doing the full jab chain.

Heard that. As soon as they showed off the first trailer I had to save up money for a Wii U. Took a year and a half, and I was only getting paid around $5-$10 for each time a mowed the lawn and/or shoveled the snow in my driveway.

 

[Månadens_Konsult]

Where does the nickname "Gdub" stem from?

 

[SFA Smiley]

GW

Gee- Duble- yoo

 

[Xzsmmc]

Ignore this post.

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

Anyone see anything new with G&W post patch? I haven't found anything

 

[BBC7]

Anyone see anything new with G&W post patch? I haven't found anything

He feels untouched for the most part, although Up B feels like it does more knockback now. Uair feels slightly stronger too.

 

[GingyCTMF]

Ooops double post. My B..

 

[GingyCTMF]

GUYS FAIRS LANDING LAG IS PRACTICALLY GONE!@
How am I the only one seeing this??!!

EDIT: Yeaaah... nevermind. Placebo effect too strong.

 

[BBC7]

Does Dash Grab have extended range now? Seems that way

 

[PentaSalia]

no changes l0l

 

[SFA Smiley]

Are you guys crazy?

They nerfed his Utilt

how can't you see that?

I'm so frustrated, why is Mario allowed to utilt people into oblivion but we get changed, it's so infuriating wtf

Edit: Can someone check if uthrow is stronger though? I had to drive across town just to play the patch because i don't have a copy of smash atm

double edit: I'm also frustrated that after we sent that 300 retweeted message asking for patch notes for the benefit of both casual and competitive players we're still sitting here trying to figure out the changes ourselves. I'm just super salty in general but man it would be nice to at least get a response explaining why they won't instead of being completely ignored... like we always are.

 

[PentaSalia]

whats nerfed about utilt

 

[Deleted member]

Are you guys crazy?

They nerfed his Utilt

how can't you see that?

I'm so frustrated, why is Mario allowed to utilt people into oblivion but we get changed, it's so infuriating wtf

Edit: Can someone check if uthrow is stronger though? I had to drive across town just to play the patch because i don't have a copy of smash atm

double edit: I'm also frustrated that after we sent that 300 retweeted message asking for patch notes for the benefit of both casual and competitive players we're still sitting here trying to figure out the changes ourselves. I'm just super salty in general but man it would be nice to at least get a response explaining why they won't instead of being completely ignored... like we always are.

Out of everything we actually could use out of d-throw, his uptilt gets nerfed?

Why do you hate us, Sakurai?

 

[SFA Smiley]

It has more knockback.

before you could use it for some pretty good landing traps or chain 2 or 3 on some characters, now it knocks them farther away and puts them behind you. you can still combo into nair but you can't get as much damage because you can't chain the utilts and it sends them farther so it's harder to chain another nair after the first

 

[Neb]

I can't even complain. More knockback on utilt as a new potential KO option/usmash mixup? We could have been worse off... like Diddy. We're benefiting either way.

 

[SFA Smiley]

It's not it's inferior to the old utilt. It does the same thing but just sends them higher and works less at higher % because of the increased knockback.

 

[Folie]

we should probably wait for things to be actually confirmed before we start freaking out about anything

 

[SFA Smiley]

Okay...

I am confirming this.

Confirmed, utilt is nerfed. This is the only thing i'm sure about, and it's very obvious.

 

[Folie]

can we get someone who's tested it to second that?