Most annoying character to run into on quickplay?

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Let’s say rulesets are normal and no weird stages with low time. Personally I think the most annoying characters to run into are a good Snake, the Belmonts (not because they’re difficult, their spam is just annoying), Ridley when all they do is the command grab and fire balls, and spammy K Rools. Basically anything that spans over and over again and any zoners are annoying. What do you guys think?
 

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Congratulations, you learned how the zoner archetype works. Zoners win by annoying you with projectiles, which entices you to make more mistakes that they can in turn punish. The more annoyed someone is, the more likely they are to lose their cool and just try blindly rushing in, at which point the zoner has completely and utterly won, as such approaches are usually very linear and easy to punish.

By definition, the most annoying characters to face will always be zoners. Otherwise, they're not very good at their job.
 
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Congratulations, you learned how the zoner archetype works. Zoners win by annoying you with projectiles, which entices you to make more mistakes that they can in turn punish. The more annoyed someone is, the more likely they are to lose their cool and just try blindly rushing in, at which point the zoner has completely and utterly won, as such approaches are usually very linear and easy to punish.

By definition, the most annoying characters to face will always be zoners. Otherwise, they're not very good at their job.
I mean I know that, it’s just a really annoying archetype for me to fight. I just wanted to see who other people personally hated seeing online
 

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Other than zoning character spamming projectiles, I don't think there's anyone really annoying.
One character that often gives me a hard time online as Mario is Chrom. Not that I think he's OP or anything, I just don't quite know how to punish his attacks yet. So not really annoying, mostly something to learn.
 

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Extreme zoners in general are annoying but something about getting stuck on an Omega stage against one of the Links is the worst. Especially if they're good at the zoning aspect. Main reason I prefer Battlefield stages for the most part.
 

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I really hate fighting :ultkingdedede:'s since almost all of them just fly around and use gordo. They're usually not hard to beat but fighting them is just so monotonous.
 
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Lemme look at the roster real quick to find some annoying characters...

:ultlink::ultyounglink::ulttoonlink: Projectile spamming idiots who sometimes use standard attacks.
:ultsamus::ultdarksamus: Projectile spamming idiots who never use standard attacks.
:ultfox: Only if the player came straight from Melee.
:ultpikachu::ultpichu: Shocking, (pun intended) but these two are very strong, and might need nerfs. Very hard to hit due to fast speed, and attacks will stun with very little startup lag.
:ultness: PK FIRE! PK FIRE! PK FIRE! Usually comes with a grab right after, and a lot of his standard attacks come out pretty quickly with some range. Lucas is easier to deal with in my opinion.
(Ness is pretty annoying in all Smash games TBH)
:ultchrom: Too fast, hits too hard, has Ike's up B for some reason. Enough said.
:ultmetaknight: Never ever has a hard time recovering. Also has really fast attacks.
:ultsnake: Grenade spam and C4 can be a little annoying, but it's not too bad. His playstyle was designed to be tricky unlike most projectile spammers.
:ultpokemontrainer: Squirtle is mildly annoying and fast, and Ivysaur has weird smash attacks with a really good air game. Bad recovery tho. Charizard isn't really annoying, outside of the off chance it lands Flare Blitz.
:ultwolf:Spammy projectile that stuns. Other than that, he's not very annoying.
:ultvillager:Slingshot spamming idiot. Just, stop. Also Gyroid spam, dash attack, and the bowling ball!
:ultinkling: Ink is really annoying. Roller buries for too long, and smash attacks come out really fast with a small window of reaction time.
:ultsimon::ultrichter: Projectile spamming idiots that rarely use standard attacks outside of F Smash. Not as fun to play as I was expecting.
:ultkrool:Super armor on almost every attack, blunderbuss packs a huge punch and easily succeeds at edgeguarding, crown toss doesn't get stopped by shields, and a recovery that rarely fails. Also D-Tilt and D-Throw bury. Yay!
He is a ton of fun to play, but he probably needs some nerfs.
:ultisabelle: Slingshot spam and fishing rod spam is obnoxious. Also dash attack.
:ultmiifighters::4miigun:Samus clone that spams projectiles.

If I missed any, I'll add them here, but here you go. Most of these characters are actually pretty balanced, but I just find them annoying to fight. Only a few that I find overpowered.
 
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Let’s say rulesets are normal and no weird stages with low time. Personally I think the most annoying characters to run into are a good Snake, the Belmonts (not because they’re difficult, their spam is just annoying), Ridley when all they do is the command grab and fire balls, and spammy K Rools. Basically anything that spans over and over again and any zoners are annoying. What do you guys think?
Ness players deadass. Eat more glue than K Rool.

Lemme look at the roster real quick to find some annoying characters...

:ultlink::ultyounglink::ulttoonlink: Projectile spamming idiots who sometimes use standard attacks.
:ultsamus::ultdarksamus: Projectile spamming idiots who never use standard attacks.
:ultfox: Only if the player came straight from Melee.
:ultpikachu::ultpichu: Shocking, (pun intended) but these two are very strong, and might need nerfs. Very hard to hit due to fast speed, and attacks will stun with very little startup lag.
:ultness: PK FIRE! PK FIRE! PK FIRE! Usually comes with a grab right after, and a lot of his standard attacks come out pretty quickly with some range. Lucas is easier to deal with in my opinion.
(Ness is pretty annoying in all Smash games TBH)
:ultchrom: Too fast, hits too hard, has Ike's up B for some reason. Enough said.
:ultmetaknight: Never ever has a hard time recovering. Also has really fast attacks.
:ultsnake: Grenade spam and C4 can be a little annoying, but it's not too bad. His playstyle was designed to be tricky unlike most projectile spammers.
:ultpokemontrainer: Squirtle is mildly annoying and fast, and Ivysaur has weird smash attacks with a really good air game. Bad recovery tho. Charizard isn't really annoying, outside of the off chance it lands Flare Blitz.
:ultwolf:Spammy projectile that stuns. Other than that, he's not very annoying.
:ultvillager:Slingshot spamming idiot. Just, stop. Also Gyroid spam, dash attack, and the bowling ball!
:ultinkling: Ink is really annoying. Roller buries for too long, and smash attacks come out really fast with a small window of reaction time.
:ultsimon::ultrichter: Projectile spamming idiots that rarely use standard attacks outside of F Smash. Not as fun to play as I was expecting.
:ultkrool:Super armor on almost every attack, blunderbuss packs a huge punch and easily succeeds at edgeguarding, crown toss doesn't get stopped by shields, and a recovery that rarely fails. Also D-Tilt and D-Throw bury. Yay!
He is a ton of fun to play, but he probably needs some nerfs.
:ultisabelle: Slingshot spam and fishing rod spam is obnoxious. Also dash attack.
:ultmiifighters::4miigun:Samus clone that spams projectiles.

If I missed any, I'll add them here, but here you go. Most of these characters are actually pretty balanced, but I just find them annoying to fight. Only a few that I find overpowered.
Only legit braindead character in there is Chrom. The others are fine (besides Ness)
 
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Ness is so damn braindead. They don’t even have to be good to be irritating. Just fish for pk fire confirms and congrats, you’re a ness main.

That said, pikachu and pichu may actually be worse because, depending on the matchup, they’re likely to spend most of the fight ping ponging you to either end of the stage and generally just be relentlessly aggressive. Wouldn’t be surprised, or lose any sleep, if they got nerfed TBH.
 
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Easily K Rool
Ridley is annoying with the fireballs
Ness is Ness
Anyone with a sword
 

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every projectile spammer. Idk what this game's obsession is with projectile spamming. DH is the absolute worst though. Samus and mii gunner are horrible as well. Also Pichu is broken as ****. I cant wait for that bull**** character to get nerfed. Idk how anyone can look at Pichu and not think he is overpowered. Pikachu isnt much better.
 
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:ultinkling: takes the cake here! I get annoyed by them badly. They catch you off guard all the time, and force you too much to adapt to them. Force you out of your comfortzone, which makes you prone to mistakes which they capitalize on. In general, they are my least liked characters fighting against. Just plain annoying.
 

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:ultisabelle::ultvillager: - I hate dealing with fair/bair. I hate the Fishing Rod as well.
:ultkingdedede: - It's Gordo galore with these guys. They jump a lot, they like to use Inhale very often, and while I havne't had too much of an issue with them, they're just really annoying.
:ultyounglink::ulttoonlink::ultlink: - I wish all of their arrows were Meleefied. They'd then have to actually charge their arrows so that it goes somewhere, and arrow spam would be brought to a minimum. Boomerang is very annoying, but I think I may have found a counter to that kind of spamming.
:ultluigi: - Dash attack appears really safe and useful for him in this game. They try to do their 0 to death combo shenanigans as well.
:ultmarth::ultlucina: - I hate their range, and that they can counter me offstage. I actually don't mind fighting them, though, despite it being a really bad MU.
:ultolimar: - Pikmin spam. Ness' PSI Magnet kills Pikmin that latch to him in case anybody wanted to know how to deal with that sort of spam.
:ultpalutena: - Her aerials are really good. I suspect projectile like Autoreticle and Explosive Flame from her, especially offstage. Fortunately, PSI Magnet comes in handy.
:ultpichu: - He's hard to hit, and I hate that he's got combos that can lead into instant death.
:ultpit::ultdarkpit: - Their swords have been heavily buffed, and they can spam arrows like nothing. Very annoying to deal with. Their smash attacks are very quick and have a lot of power. I don't like dealing with these guys.
:ultshulk: - The match against him feels one-sided at times. Being able to switch on the fly really makes him difficult to deal with, and his sword is really long.
:ultsimon::ultrichter: - Obviously their projectile game and whip range. Plus, the two I've come across never gave me another chance for redemption. How am I supposed to learn this MU if you're going to leave?
:ultyoshi: - This character has waaay too much safe options. His aerial mobility is probably the best in the game, his second jump doesn't leave him open. His attacks are really strong, and I have to out-camp him in order to get anywhere. Maybe I just don't have very much experience against this character. Maybe it's easier for Ness. I don't really know, though.
:ultzelda: - Runs off and hides behind her Phantom Knight. Anytime I land any attacks, her Nayru's Love just dismisses them.
:ultzss: - She loves to play cat and mouse. She's not a bad character like some people were saying.
 
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Let’s say rulesets are normal and no weird stages with low time. Personally I think the most annoying characters to run into are a good Snake, the Belmonts (not because they’re difficult, their spam is just annoying), Ridley when all they do is the command grab and fire balls, and spammy K Rools. Basically anything that spans over and over again and any zoners are annoying. What do you guys think?
You're a Ness main and you're annoyed by Ridley mindlessly spamming fireballs? Something doesn't seem quite right there.
 

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I personally find Sonic annoying. My friend mains him so I could be bias, but trying to catch him sometimes can be a real chore.
 

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You're a Ness main and you're annoyed by Ridley mindlessly spamming fireballs? Something doesn't seem quite right there.
I don’t mindlessly spam PK Fire, I use it sparingly as a spacing and combo set up tool. There’s a difference between Ness’s who mindlessly spam PK Fire and Ness’s who rely on their aerials, combos, grab, and edgeguading game who use PK Fire sparingly. If I spammed it it wouldn’t be effective and people would play around it

Ness is so damn braindead. They don’t even have to be good to be irritating. Just fish for pk fire confirms and congrats, you’re a ness main.

That said, pikachu and pichu may actually be worse because, depending on the matchup, they’re likely to spend most of the fight ping ponging you to either end of the stage and generally just be relentlessly aggressive. Wouldn’t be surprised, or lose any sleep, if they got nerfed TBH.
Ness isn’t braindead when you play him right. I literally use almost every move has and PK Fire isn’t a move I use all the time
 
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Doesn’t matter, I’ll let you keep losing to PK Fire spam online while I’m at a GSP if I spammed PK Fire I’d get bodied
Oh how clever of you, hitting me with the old "you're complaining about something, so that obviously means you lose to it all the time" argument.

I didn't even say "spam pk fire." I said "fish for pk fire confirms." And WTF does ness even do besides fish for pk fire confirms?
 

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Oh how clever of you, hitting me with the old "you're complaining about something, so that obviously means you lose to it all the time" argument.

I didn't even say "spam pk fire." I said "fish for pk fire confirms." And WTF does ness even do besides fish for pk fire confirms?
Watch Awestin, Bestness, FOW, and Jtails play. Ness has phenomenal aerials. He has a great grab game. He has PK Thunder and PKT2. He has the yo-yo 2 frame trap. He has great movement aided by psi magnet. There’s a whole lot more Ness does than fish for PK Fire. He wouldn’t be as successful as he is competitively and in tournament results if that was all he did
 
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You're talking tournament level players. I'm talking online level players.

And ness players online are really annoying and braindead.
 
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little mac. idfk why i find him so annoying because i could easily deal with him in smash 4. i usually find the biggest problem with little mac when im playing mario. i have ways to get around mac and usually win except when im with mario. i just try to do something but little macs normal attacks are so fast and u cant punish any of his smash attacks it sort of feels like
 

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As a ZSS and Corrin main, K Rool is mostly an easy win for me. Juggling him and punishing his crown spam is so satisfying. So I don't mind him at all. But yeah, projectile spam is more annoying than ever. I do groan a little bit, if I have to play for the 100th time a Samus, Link, Dedede , Belmont or Snake, all basically using the same strategy. I can do fairly well against them, but sometimes even when I see a Boomerang, Gordo or Bomb coming I still tend to get hit by it. Lag messes up my timing, it gets even worse when I buffered an airdodge, because I pressed the shield button too late and fall to my demise like an Idiot. It's annoying but well, at least I get a good laugh of it when that happens.

Of course, everyone can play the way they like, but it is kinda sad, that quickplay mostly consists of heavies or zoners. I mean, the game has 70 characters after all. Characters that nobody uses like Rosalina, Duck Hunt and Greninja need some love too, you know.
 
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I think Lucas is pretty annoying online, very close tie with Samus and any version of Link.

2nd to that is probably Ganondorf or Incineroar because they camp the command grab and do 50% each confirm.
 

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currently it's :ultganondorf:

all my main characters really struggle against him.... i already get frustrated when i end up having to go against a Ganon on a 1 vs 1 match...gah D:
his moves are just to difficult for me to deal with and they literally always hit me no matter what! >.>
 
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currently it's :ultganondorf:

all my main characters really struggle against him.... i already get frustrated when i end up having to go against a Ganon on a 1 vs 1 match...gah D:
his moves are just to difficult for me to deal with and they literally always hit me no matter what! >.>
I actually get that. While I usually beat him (unless they’re a really good player) he’s always annoying. The fact that you can die in like three hits but the worst part is his command grab (I HATE command grabs in general). Even if you tech roll against it if he guess right he still punishes you hard. If you’re trying to space him he just throws it out and it’s not like you wanna be close to him anyway with all that super armor. It’s basically play a zoner or be in for a very annoying match with him

Young Link is starting to become my least favorite zoner. With Samus, the Belmonts, adult Link, and any other zoner I can break through them pretty easily but Young Link is like pulling teeth. I just really don’t like characters that operate the way he does in general

little mac. idfk why i find him so annoying because i could easily deal with him in smash 4. i usually find the biggest problem with little mac when im playing mario. i have ways to get around mac and usually win except when im with mario. i just try to do something but little macs normal attacks are so fast and u cant punish any of his smash attacks it sort of feels like
I get this too. With Mario I would just keep jumping over and avoiding his attacks and once he gives you an opening get him in the air and hopefully off stage. The super armor is annoying though. I think the part that’s annoying about him is you know he’s bad yet you still have trouble with him sometimes
 
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A couple of my personal least favorites are

:ultlink:- Annoying zoner with ridiculous air space control, and in my opinion some, of the most annoying smash attacks in the game. (Don't struggle with Young or Toon though)

:ultike:- Aerials are ridiculous, also kills really early.

:ultganondorf:- Not impossible, but killing from a forward smash at 60% is annoying.

:ultgreninja:- I'm just unfamiliar with the matchup

:ultsonic:- Same as Greninja
 
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Ganondorf and K Rool. Because that's all anyone seems to want to play. People play them to try and cheese out wins and be extra swaggy but most of them are just not very good at it.
I guess it’s kind of annoying to run up against Ganondorf and K Rool but as Ness I just look at it as a free win. I’d much rather go up against K Rool than any variety of Link
 

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I guess it’s kind of annoying to run up against Ganondorf and K Rool but as Ness I just look at it as a free win. I’d much rather go up against K Rool than any variety of Link
I like the challenge of getting past all their crap to get in on them. Same with most zoners. Less so when I get what should be a clean KO on K Rool only to have him recover from the bottom corner blastzone all the way to the top platform. And I get sick of playing the patience game against Ganondorf so I don’t die at 40.
 
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Ness is so damn braindead. They don’t even have to be good to be irritating. Just fish for pk fire confirms and congrats, you’re a ness main.

That said, pikachu and pichu may actually be worse because, depending on the matchup, they’re likely to spend most of the fight ping ponging you to either end of the stage and generally just be relentlessly aggressive. Wouldn’t be surprised, or lose any sleep, if they got nerfed TBH.
I'd like to play your ness.
 

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Miis

gunner in particular
I forgot Miis existed for a sec. Let me say I hate Swordfighter too because it’s always someone who only learned the kill confirm and can’t play the character otherwise
 

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I'd like to play your ness.
You can play my Ness!

Miis

gunner in particular
All the Miis are annoying but gunner is in a different league of annoying. Nothing feels worse than losing to them

I like the challenge of getting past all their crap to get in on them. Same with most zoners. Less so when I get what should be a clean KO on K Rool only to have him recover from the bottom corner blastzone all the way to the top platform. And I get sick of playing the patience game against Ganondorf so I don’t die at 40.
Yeah it’s more of an actual match than K Rool or Ganondorf I guess. Ganondorf I’m honestly fine with unless you spam command grab which I’ll just punish anyway. K Rool players are the worst and they recover from obscene distances. Like dude I’m 2 stocks up and you’re at 160% just die
 
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little mac. idfk why i find him so annoying because i could easily deal with him in smash 4. i usually find the biggest problem with little mac when im playing mario. i have ways to get around mac and usually win except when im with mario. i just try to do something but little macs normal attacks are so fast and u cant punish any of his smash attacks it sort of feels like
Approach from the air and throw more fire balls. F.L.U.D.D. off stage for cheap kills that are hilarious.
 
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