MLG Orlando 2010 - April 16-18th ($7,000) - RESULTS THREAD IS UP!

[Solid Jake]

I gotta say, Infractions are really needed in here right now. MLG puts us on THEIR circuit, and you respond like this? Go cry to EVO and play with smash balls, this rule set is 100% competitive and yes it might be something out of the ordinary, but does that mean its awful? I don't think so. Would I use it at my tournaments? Probably not. I understand why people are upset about the Wii Mote rule, and I can't say I disagree . . But maybe Razer ybm and P~S should PM JV? It can't hurt right?

 

[Toneh]

This was the most logical post I've read about the ruleset. Alot of people are freaking out, but you can still strike the bad stages.

no one mentioned the starters, its the cp's..

 

[KageMurphy]

Xyro going hard LOL

Lol @ all these MLG nut hoppers, the rules are far from good, stop frontin

Looking forward to Ksizzle gaying everyone tho.

 

[rathy Aro]

you can't strike counter picks.The stages really aren't even the biggest deal here (greens greens is pretty bad though). The biggest problem is wiimote issue, followed by the doubles character selection issue (I REALLY wanted to see shadow+diem take this =(). There's also a lack of a ban on stalling and I am SO sure M2K and other top MKs who could really use $7000 will abuse this. =/There's plenty of other bad stuff in there, but the ones I mentioned need immediate fixes.

 

[CaliburChamp]

i vote to allow the wii motes as long as eveyone else i have talked to so far in CFL.

MLG- please allow for razer and ybm and p~s to use their wiimotes. u will not be disappointed if u allow it.

I second this. They both are really good with their mains, it would attract many viewers. It would be good for the sponsors as well. Making MLG more money.

 

[Allied]

Regardless of MLG is taking care of brawl now i think we should remind ourself we did fine without MLG before and now they come in making a mockery with these rules

i'm not dissing MLG but god ****

 

[Player-1]

I gotta say, Infractions are really needed in here right now. MLG puts us on THEIR circuit, and you respond like this? Go cry to EVO and play with smash balls, this rule set is 100% competitive and yes it might be something out of the ordinary, but does that mean its awful? I don't think so. I understand why people are upset about the Wii Mote rule, and I can't say I disagree . . But maybe Razer ybm and P~S should PM JV? It can't hurt right?

Agreed, 100%

 

[kackamee]

Eh, the starters hurt IC's quite a bit. The CP's hurt them even worse. There is no way IC's will get SV BF or FD which are their best 3 stages in a 9 starter list. And without MK banned quite a bit of matches WILL be timed out. It's sad, really.

 

[Xyro77]

The ledge grab rule is suppposed to stop plainking/ledge stalling and it will. But places like norfair are not ONLY used for that ledge stuff. You can run all day long and stuff.

 

[GDX]

lol people gotta calm down

honestly as long as they fix the wiimote thing ill be good. I dont even use it but i think they should be allowed to

oh, and of course if team attack is on

 

[Xyro77]

And without MK banned quite a bit of matches WILL be timed out. It's sad, really.

if you are talking about aircamping, then i agree. but ledge wise, they really cant unless they save them ALL for the last minute of the match

 

[gallax]

yeah i have no problem with any of the mlg rules. the only thing i want is for wiimotes to be allowed. there are many good players who use wiimotes and they should be given a chance at placing well just as anyone else who comes. i want everyone to be able to play in this.

please allow wiimotes.

 

[kackamee]

if you are talking about aircamping, then i agree. but ledge wise, they really cant unless they save them ALL for the last minute of the match

Yeah, I was talking about airplanking. Lylat, Delfino, Picto, Green Greens, Norfair, etc. MK will **** every single person on those stages with airplanking and camping.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

Here is what CAN happen if GREEN GREENS is ALLOWED(video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEqWPtZb9ZQ

this..is....beautiful

 

[Dr. Grandpa]

omg green green is legal .............scrub

yo can we ban stages?

 

[theunabletable]

No, the new stage list is one of the best things to happen. More characters will be viable with the more diverse stages.

I have no problem myself with which stages are included, but Halberd and Delfino DEFINITELY need to be CPs instead of starters (and I'd say Castle Seige, but it's not as bad as Delfino/Halberd).

The starter list isn't a big deal. We have a lot of strikes so it neutralizes it.

Okay so I propose this starter list:
Battlefield
Castle Siege
Delfino Plaza
Final Destination
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Pokémon Stadium
Smashville
Yoshi’s Island
Brinstar
Frigate Orpheon
Green Greens
Norfair
Pictochat
Pokémon Stadium 2
Rainbow Cruise

Seeded player gets 7 strikes, the other one gets 8 strikes.

So what if Green Greens is a starter, we have enough strikes to neutralize it.

Just because you have the opportunity to strike it does NOT mean that it should be a starter.

Oh and the Wiichuck rule is terrible, just saying.

 

[Trela]

I want to go to MLG so badly, though!

I'm really scared to, now...

 

[UltimateRazer]

Hey cool wiimotes are banned even though like 97% of the people going to this use GC controllers. Thank a lot MLG. I PM'd MLG top people to even just say if it would or wouldn't be legal but they gave back vague answers. I bought my plane ticket because prices sky rocket out of Houston and it would be impossible to go afterwards. I'm upset because I am trying to cancel my plane ticket but I'm still getting ****ed either way. I will only get the money back in credit and it would cost 150 just to use it. I probably won't attend any of these anymore. The wiimote is first party and like YBM said....THIS IS A GAME FOR THE WII. Do they know GC controllers arn't made anymore? That its hard to get it or only get it from play asia? This is stupid and dumb.

/rant.

Maybe I should of waited till the ruleset was up but hey, I don't wanna pay 400+ just to go to this kind of thing with these rules. Until they fix this. BB MLG.

 

[Alex Strife]

but you know like Player-1 said it was all your fault LOL such logic is so silly.

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

I want to go to MLG so badly, though!

I'm really scared to, now...

Maybe I should of waited till the ruleset was up but hey, I don't wanna pay 400+ just to go to this kind of thing with these rules. Until they fix this. BB MLG.

I don't blame y'all.

It sucks that it may come to this that both you may not go.

 

[OverLade]

Wait, do players take turns striking, or strike all at once?

 

[FlatSoda]

razer, i hope you get things sorted out.

or rather MLG sorts it out.

 

[GDX]

Wait, do players take turns striking, or strike all at once?

...wait what? is the 2nd one even possible?

 

[theunabletable]

Wait, do players take turns striking, or strike all at once?

I'm pretty sure all at once, then after they strike the stages and decide the first stage they play on, they get to decide what stage they ban before even playing...

Really stupid.

I was excited for MLG, but after looking at this bull **** ruleset...

 

[clowsui]

apparently MLG didn't talk to the BR about a LOOOT of the stuff in this ruleset

-___-

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Strike all at once

Higher seed strikes 3 stages
Lower seed strikes 4
Higher seed strikes 1 (Basically chooses the match)

Also, we can ban one level after the strikes are made but before the 1st match is played.

This isn't bad. On the large stage of MLG, people will be using their mains in the first round. This will lead to you knowing their mains, so you can either ban based on your bad levels or based on their main's good levels. If you get screwed over because they have a secondary, that is your fault. In Melee for a LONG time banning was done before the first match (at least at tournaments I went to) and they all ran smoothly. Nothing is bad with this system.

Are CP's really that big of a deal? Assuming a 2/3, even if the EC list was adopted, MK (A character who I assume is the main focal point for *****ing about unfairness) has more than 1 CP, thus giving the set a high % chance of auto-win if he wins the first match. Guess what?

DON'T LET HIM WIN THE FIRST MATCH

The starter stages will make the first match pretty even. IF you win, you lose on his CP (RC, Norfair, Brinstar...whatever). Then you have a CP. You have Green Greens, FD, and pictochat, which are all meh MK stages. You have the same thing. Adding green greens hurt MK, just like adding Norfair helped him. Please don't go ballistic when half of the people complaining have NEVER played on the stages outside of casuals with items on.

If you do not wish to attend MLG events because of the rules, so be it. If you already bought your plane ticket...that sucks and I feel bad. However, just don't go to the next one. MLG has enough people that would be willing to go that they won't really lose anything if some people don't go because they are too ignorant to actually play on the stages. Seriously people, it isn't that bad.

 

[nevershootme]

anyone using GC controllers with no springs on triggers, don't get caught ! lol

 

[OverLade]

Oh, and Snake on greengreens is so ****ing broken. Everyone pick up Dedede...

 

[Player-1]

but you know like Player-1 said it was all your fault LOL such logic is so silly.

LMAO, Alex. Please stop being a dumb **** and putting words in my mouth:

Yes, I agree that they should have had the rules posted WAY earlier, that is their fault.

Yeah it's their fault for releasing the rule set so late,

 

[clowsui]

itt nsm doesn't know what he's talking about, because aZ said in a post before that spring mods don't matter lolz

post 973

 

[NickRiddle]

>.>
I like the stages.
Meh.

 

[CO18]

anyone using GC controllers with no springs on triggers, don't get caught ! lol

AZ said no springs controllers are legal

 

[Alex Strife]

player-1 you said it their fault wtf dude lolz

oh wells its no biggie razer is getting his ticket back

Esam I understand what you are saying for the stagelist but there are reasons the EC is a little more conservative and as a non-mk mainer I have my reasons as a top level TO for removing stages that are

- WAY too big and can promote camping
- have glitches ( green greens ) that can be emulated
- can have random factors that remove the idea of skill as the #1 factor for winning.

that is just my view as a fighting game player and halo player for years.

so while I think it is a good change I do see your view a little bias as a pro-ban supporter

 

[UltimateRazer]

I've been getting a couple of people asking me, "You got 3 weeks to practice with the GC controller. Just use that?". No, I shouldn't have to and even still, 3 weeks practice with it will not out due 2+ YEARS of practice with the wiimote. I shouldn't have to be forced to use a controller that is not even being made anymore for a WII GAME. I can see why they would ban it because it COULD mess up things but they should of thought of that before they even accepted a WII game in the circuit.

Top players affected by this are probably the top 4 who use it. Me, Logic, YBM and Tearbear. They lost top 2 player in TX. Lost an EC player. Lost a MW player and lost a WC player if they don't fix this. I know I won't do nearly as well if I even attempt the GC controller. Guess I'll be using this for the Airship or Apex or something.

Got it confirmed. If I cancel my flight I'm going to be losing 150 dollars no matter what. Extremely disappointing...

 

[nevershootme]

clearly there needs clearer details on their rule page. before more random people asking about it on either forum

as for the wii-mote issue, wii-mote syncing is not as severe as PS3 syncing, you just press the sync button and wii console sync button. and you know wii-mote (chuk, CC) users are responsible to remove their batteries after every game.

 

[So Fatal]

You must of flew a ****ty airline, I could cancel mine at any time and get full credit. =(

 

[RichBrown]

There are very few people in here that like the stage list.

Instead of saying "L2PLAY," why not accommodate the community instead of doing what you want? It feels very selfish. Who is in charge of the rules, or who is the group of people in charge of the rules? You guys really need to listen to what the community is asking. I saw this on the MLG boards:

"First off let me say that this is the first event for Brawl on the circuit, there's going to be a ridiculous amount of changes to the rule set after Orlando."

Why are there going to be rule changes? Because the rules are flawed? So why not switch them now before this gets out of hand? The vast majority of the community is obvious unhappy. Please, MLG, you must recognize that when it comes to your rules, it's better to make the community happy than yourselves happy.

Also, I doubt there's gonna be more than 10 wii-chuk players, there, is it really that big an issue?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

No-spring controllers will be allowed.

There is a difference between ^ and

No spring controllers will be allowed

AZ is saying that controllers with no springs (Hence the hyphen) will be allowed.

 

[Player-1]

player-1 you said it their fault wtf dude lolz

oh wells its no biggie razer is getting his ticket back

Esam I understand what you are saying for the stagelist but there are reasons the EC is a little more conservative and as a non-mk mainer I have my reasons as a top level TO for removing stages that are

- WAY too big and can promote camping
- have glitches ( green greens ) that can be emulated
- can have random factors that remove the idea of skill as the #1 factor for winning.

that is just my view as a fighting game player and halo player for years.

so while I think it is a good change I do see your view a little bias as a pro-ban supporter

maybe you should take the time and READ my post, I shouldn't have to go back and quote my messages that you should have read if you were still going to continue going on about it.

 

[CT Chia]

why arent no spring controllers allowed? i dont get it