Mink's Matchup Thread

[Noobicidal]

btw guys, this diddy kong has been telling me for the past semester or two that my jigglypuff is ****, and if he picked up a low tier he could be ranked as the best too.

Yeah, I could totally see why he would think that way.

By no means will I agree with him

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in front of you

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[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I don't understand why you are in these boards.

All you do is bash man.
That's all you do.
you're not supportive, all you do is pop in and say your 3 words of *******-ness
and then dissapear. And then when i come and try and actually do something all you do is **** on me.
It's starting to get old.

As much as you think it's awesome and super fun being a ****, i posted that for some support.
Like, 4 days ago when i wished you luck on that job thing was my attempt at actually showing some kindness towards you, even though all i get is ****.

But it didn't work obviously.

*sigh*
And now my rage is gone.

 

[Noobicidal]

I don't "bash". I look at things objectively without any restraint. By all means, prove me wrong, beat that kid, place well, and shove it in my face for days on end. I want to be completely wrong about you.

If you'd rather have me just appear to have a facade of general happiness and respect towards all

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of the Puff residents, then I'll gladly wear that mask for you.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I'll take that challenge

Marth things?

 

[GeneralWoodman]

Marth= Z-man/SuperWoman from Beyond The Valley of Dolls LOOOOOOOOOOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBzAcmHvS8o

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

So, where's Jmaster.
Isn't he supposed to like...
do things involving a marth write up

 

[Jigglymaster]

So, where's Jmaster.
Isn't he supposed to like...
do things involving a marth write up

10nopes cuz i'm too busy

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Sigh.
Well there goes my motivation for the night.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Cool fun double post.

Let's discuss....

LINK :D

 

[Exegguter]

Link's recovery is like really really goood, it takes forever to kill him because of that. That said:

70:30 link's favour.

 

[LordXav1er]

This match up is fun =S

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Exegg, i feel you be trollin'.

And X, wanna give a paragraph of what you think?

 

[GeneralWoodman]

Its fun for link because he can play defensive and mess around with full hop bomb tricksies the whole match. Jiggz is forced to approach until she gets a lead and will have to predict which of several tricks the link player is using before landing effective hits. It's pretty even if the link player IS ACTUALLY SKILLED like X for example. Links who make no use of bombs will get ***** however... 50-50, 55-45..idk its pretty close.

 

[LordXav1er]

Well I have yet to play any Jigglypuffs offline so can't really say yet XD I have some decent connections with like GeneralWoodman and Dapuffster. The rest were inconsistent connections. But from what I seen Link basically just needs to zone Jiggs out from approaching with all his long and mid ranged attacks while not getting gimped offstage (the usual for Links). It doesn't seem too good for Jigglypuff or too bad. So ratio should be around even.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

60:40 Jigglypuff's favour.

Jigglypuff can weave through Link's projectile spam and can camp him pretty badly.

 

[Beat11]

Link shouldn't focus on spamming her. A good Link will be bomb ****s and full hop some aerials, Fair. Link must focus on his anti aerial approach options since no real jiggs will ground approach. Throwing bombs up is good air traffic and control. Utilt is broken for this matchup. I never played any good jiggs but it is pretty similar to how it was in Melee minus the ridiculous combos and shield pressure that made the matchup so hard to begin with. Jiggs still has Edgegaurding and a few other things going for her but the lost of those two major advantages downgraded the matchup to become pretty much even. This is just my opinion though.

 

[LordXav1er]

60:40 Jigglypuff's favour.

Jigglypuff can weave through Link's projectile spam and can camp him pretty badly.

Well then it is obvious you never played a good Link.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I feel like it's very easy for jigglypuf to get in on link. We can shield grab most of your moves, and a good jigglypuff knows when to SH approach or FH approach. IT's not too hard to get into link. Even IT your bombs make it better.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Well then it is obvious you never played a good Link.

I'll probably be playing against Scabe if he comes to ACL.

 

[LordXav1er]

Alright he is legit, tell me if you still feel its 60:40 after playing him ;D

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Will do. =D

 

[-LzR-]

Can someone tell me some tips against the following characters: Samus, DK, Wario and Pikachu.
I need to know some important things in order to do better against them.

 

[EraOfGames]

Scabe has quite some Jigglypuff experience so watch out..

And @ LzR:

DK: Get up in his face. He has better range so you have to. Get him to the air as much as you can, because Jiggs wins there. DK's bair can be a nuisance, but you can still beat him. You have a much overall better air game; DK's other aerials aren't difficult like bair. Be very wary of his dsmash, which comes out pretty fast. Remember the range and be defensive if you think he can hit you. Especially be careful with pound at high percents, as he can punish that oos with dsmash. Really though, against a good dk you need to not let them out zone you or you will be screwed. You also need to get agressive with kills (well I suppose you should with any MU) because DK can live very long with his weight + momentum cancel. I could be wrong about this, but iirc DK's shield is easy to poke, so Pound and Rollout are more useful. Rollout can be pretty useful for punishing any ending lag he gets, if you like to use it anways.

As for Pikachu and Samus, I haven't really played either, though you should ask KillerJawz about the latter, since he is experienced in that MU.

With Wario, there really isn't much to be said that wasn't in the MU thread. Fight him in the aerial x-axis as much as you can.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Pikachu, Dair / Bair and rising pound work well.

You can nair thundershocks.
Don't airdodge immediuately after being Utilt/Usmashed

DK, don't do it.

Wario, bait his moves, and do the same thing he does.

Samus, i have a write up. It's a hard match, but you have to get in on them. Fairs work well, OOS up B is obnoxious. What are you have problems with?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Scabe has quite some Jigglypuff experience so watch out...

Who against?

 

[ItoI6]

For DK i like to bait his ftilt by standing just inside his range and boost pivot grabbing it. From there you can also dart in with dairs and his shield is so bad itll usually poke and at 100% rest will kill.

When pikachu gets all fancy with his QACs just nair toward him to beat it every time.

I thought we like just did a wario discussion 2 weeks ago lol.

And idk about samus.

 

[EraOfGames]

Who against?

I've played him before, but that was long ago...xD

There's a tourney set of him against a puff in the puff video thread, from like a year ago

 

[Jigglymaster]

Ughh, I hate fighting all those characters you mentioned.

DK, I'm not using Jiggs against DK ever again, I'm just going Diddy, I was going to win the set against Will's DK and on match 3 I cp'd with RC and Jiggs and I lost pretty badly because of it.

Wario went Jiggly the entire set against some guy's Wario and got knocked out of Pound 4's final bracket because of it, also got *******d by Zebra's Wario online. I use Diddy for this matchup as well.

I freaking hate Samus, that blasted OoS Up B and her Z air are incredibly annoying, I almost lost to some person's samus in a low tier tournament. Even Diddy has a hard time with this matchup because of Samus' weird tripping animation. She makes me rage.

and Pikachu I don't really know, I've never really encountered one before.

 

[EraOfGames]

Well I guess I have played a Pikachu once, the only thing I can remember though is to cancel out thunderbolts with aerials and always be on the lookout for a thunder, especially when sent high to the air. Don't use your airdodge until they thunder, and sometimes drifting away isn't necessarily safe as they have some QAC mindgames to switch positions quickly. Also learn to SDI his dsmash; it's pretty easy to do so.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Best thing i've found for DIng Dsmash, is to spam up on Cstick, point up and in a direction on joystick.

 

[Jigglymaster]

Best thing i've found for DIng Dsmash, is to spam up on Cstick, point up and in a direction on joystick.

Yeah that helps alot. Thats more of a generalization for all characters to fight against Pikachu though. I've fought Pikachu before, but not enough tournament matches against him to understand the matchup.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I play a pikachu alot actually. I'm about to get some more, so i'll post anything i learn if you guys want.

 

[-LzR-]

Just mashing the sticks randomly gets you out of Dsmash.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Jigglypuff actually has a hard time getting out of it IMO. I have an easy time when i play ZSS, but playing jigglypuff i have a hard time getting out of Dsmash.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Thanks man!
I wish you weren't so vague.
But i glady accept.
:D

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Vague.. it means like,
you're not clear.

 

[dskank]

Oh!

Now i get it
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NO U!

rolf able trolls to good, this man spammed errewhere

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Dskank, you're up in my threadddds

What do you think about the bowser jiggly match?

 

[Kaptain]

Best thing i've found for DIng Dsmash, is to spam up on Cstick, point up and in a direction on joystick.

Not sure if this has been stated... but this is also how to DI out of Zelda's forward and up smash. At least it works for me.

 

[G-Dub]

rolf able trolls to good, this man spammed errewhere

LOL
Bro. Abel1994 be spammin fo DAYS.... he's in da boards too...