Mii Gunner Up B Platform Cancel?

[SpawnSean]

https://youtu.be/L713xuNdj2I I think I might have discovered a new Mii Gunner Tech.

 

[SpawnSean]

Probs gonna call it the Lunar Cancel if it doesn't already have a name

 

[AEMehr]

The tech is not new. The utility for it however, is! Neat discovery.

 

[GS3K]

how exactly do you do that

 

[Djmarcus44]

how exactly do you do that

If you use up b right before you hit the ground, then Gunner will cancel lunar launch by landing.

 

[Epok]

Probs gonna call it the Lunar Cancel if it doesn't already have a name

L-cancelling confirmed for smash 4

 

[SpawnSean]

It might be possible this tech can be used with other characters with different specials. Robin can do it but it is not as useful for he practically needs to be on top of his opponent.

 

[Djmarcus44]

After using this technique a little bit, I found that lunar canceled up b true combos into up tilt as well. It should combo into jab, but I haven't tried that out yet. I am also trying to consistently get the hitbox of lunar launch when lunar cancelling.

 

[SpawnSean]

After using this technique a little bit, I found that lunar canceled up b true combos into up tilt as well. It should combo into jab, but I haven't tried that out yet. I am also trying to consistently get the hitbox of lunar launch when lunar cancelling.

I use the position of Mii gunners feet to get it just right. I also find it easier to perform when walking off a platform.

 

[Wii Twerk Trainer]

I do Up B instantly, before I hit the ground? This looks very useful Andi wannatry this bady now. Thanks for this s fabulous discovery

 

[Tene_Sicarius]

I have a few questions about pulling this off, since its pretty difficult to perform consecutively in a real match. What is the frame data for pulling this off with a hitbox, what margin of error do I have to work with, and where should I start it? Is this easier to perform with Bidou? Although I doubt it, is it possible to fastfall during the startup of up special? Is this easier to pull off with a guest or short Mii?

 

[HermitHelmet]

Back when I discovered this in April of 2015, I thought it was quite useless, but recently I'll be making efforts to see if there's anything that we can do into a true combo that doesn't involve footstooling.

 

[DrLobster]

Does anyone know if this up-b interrupt thing is plus on block? Because if it is, and you do it on a platform and get the hitbox out, it could lead into a free grab/shield pressure.

VERY reminiscent of Samus' aerial interrupt in Melee. Super cool tech honestly.

 

[Djmarcus44]

Does anyone know if this up-b interrupt thing is plus on block? Because if it is, and you do it on a platform and get the hitbox out, it could lead into a free grab/shield pressure.

VERY reminiscent of Samus' aerial interrupt in Melee. Super cool tech honestly.

Since Gunner suffers almost no landing lag from lunar cancelling, it should be safe on shield, but I will ask someone that can check frame data to be sure.

 

[Tene_Sicarius]

Since Gunner suffers almost no landing lag from lunar cancelling, it should be safe on shield, but I will ask someone that can check frame data to be sure.

On a default Mii, a non perfect shielded lunar landing results in 6 frames of shieldstun (if the move isn't stale). Assuming that the up b cancel is equivalent to an autocancel, you should have a two frame advantage. Gunner is tied with about half the cast with a frame 6 standing grab, so unless they have an amazing OoS up special, you will get the grab.

Small gunner only loses one frame on shield, so you still have a frame advantage to beat a grab.

 

[SR-71]

Serious question: Is anyone able to perform a lunar-cancelled landing consistently, with the hitbox? I mean, can you do it 3 or 4 times in a row, or at least 75% of attempts?

 

[Protom]

on battlefield you can get a 100% consistent lunar cancel on the side platforms if you do fullhop airdodge and then input up special..