Midair momentum pivot involving B moves - Update

[Itakio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHX8BkXYCI

There seems to be some sort of technique to quickly changing your momentum used in this video. I don't know anything about it so far but I hadn't seen it posted yet so I thought I would point it out.

Update -

To do a midair momentum pivot you have to be in the air and moving in one direction. From there push B first then quickly (and I MEAN QUICKLY) tilt the control stick in the opposite direction and you can do this at any time in the air.

In case there are any doubters, Nimkip is correct.

 

[Lingy]

Wow, that looks very useful. Anyone know what it is?

 

[naevorc]

we need more testing... now!

 

[Nintendude]

That has a bit of a resemblance to DJCing aerials. In SSB and SSBM you could use a double jump cancel to completely change your momentum and direction. It should definitely be a useful maneuver.

 

[Mikezor]

This topic needs more attention, I would really like to know how this is done.

 

[Itakio]

That has a bit of a resemblance to DJCing aerials. In SSB and SSBM you could use a double jump cancel to completely change your momentum and direction. It should definitely be a useful maneuver.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking when I was watching it.

 

[platnum]

WOW...This needs testing, It could be the most usefull advanced tech.(so fare) in brawl.

BTW, I say we call it A.D.I(Aerial directional influence).

 

[Bernal]

Try looking through this japanese website for that . The translations for the techniques aren't quite clear, but you can vaguely make out what they are talking about.

EDIT: http://translate.google.com/transla....web.fc2.com&hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Ehk

 

[Bibbed]

Doesn't seem that useful if it's for B-button only. Maybe it could be used by projectile spamming characters though.

 

[Habanero Pepper]

I think it would be a great idea to find out if you can do this at any point in your jump.

And don't worry guys, the first person who sees this who already has Brawl will check it out immediately. OoNoiRoO should be on it pretty quickly I'd think.

EDIT: I also didn't really look to see if there was any lag after the attacks. If there wasn't, man are there going to be some interesting applications.

 

[shanus]

that looks awesome, subscribing

 

[MookieRah]

All we need is Panda to translate the text along with that video. I'm sure it explains how to do it.

 

[Tristan_win]

Good, changing directions with the B button is still in.

I heard some people saying on the boards that it could be done but it's nice to finally see a video. Anyways the fastest way to figure out how to do this is to talk to the person who put it up.

Anyone knows Japanese?

 

[DeuceBlade]

I saw something similar to this in another vid.. but I though maybe only that specific character could use it so I ignored it, but it looks really useful

 

[Itakio]

I ran it through Google's translator and it says:
"B landing next to the air when his dash"

Looks like he's just describing what's happening.

 

[TheJalapeno]

I think he jumps in the air, double jumps but uses the starting frames to cancel into a behind special.

That's just my theory

 

[WastingPenguins]

Wow, that's some cool ****. Marth and Bowser show it off best.

 

[shanus]

I think he jumps in the air, double jumps but uses the starting frames to cancel into a behind special.

That's just my theory

he does it from the ledge, meaning it can be done while only having 1 available jump. I agreed with you till he did it with young link and so on...

 

[Valdens]

Looks promising, subscribed.

 

[MasterCheeze]

WOW...This needs testing, It could be the most usefull advanced tech.(so fare) in brawl.

BTW, I say we call it A.D.I(Aerial directional influence).

Call it "Aerial Influence of DirectionS" so the acronym will be A.I.D.S.

 

[shanus]

Call it "Aerial Influence of DirectionS" so the acronym will be A.I.D.S.

Thread over. This is one of those times I wish my japanese friends were still awake

 

[Itakio]

This hardly deserves a name, but just in case, I think the name "air pivot" would work. It describes the technique so it's easy for new players not to get confused, plus you can't do a regular "pivot" in the air anyway.

 

[shanus]

bump for japanese justice

 

[Nimkip]

To do a midair momentum pivot you have to be in the air and moving in one direction. From there push B first then quickly (and I MEAN QUICKLY) tilt the control stick in the opposite direction and you can do this at any time in the air.

 

[timbers92]

It's funny how a group of people thought this game wasn't going to be good just because there wasn't any "advanced techniques". Well now they can add one more to their list. Good find.

 

[Hellbeing]

/bump

dkafdksaj

 

[Itakio]

It's funny how a group of people thought this game wasn't going to be good just because there wasn't any "advanced techniques". Well now they can add one more to their list. Good find.

Yeah. I'm sure that these discoveries will slowly but surely build up and we will have ourselves a new competitive game.

Also - Nimkip, do you know what you're talking about? And where did you get that?
I don't deny that that's probably close to the way it's done, but I would immediately question the credibility of anyone with less than 10 posts (sometimes there are exceptions, of course).

 

[FS Fantom]

I see no video in the first post O_o

 

[MprisM]

To do a midair momentum pivot you have to be in the air and moving in one direction. From there push B first then quickly (and I MEAN QUICKLY) tilt the control stick in the opposite direction and you can do this at any time in the air.

In case there are any doubters, Nimkip is correct.

 

[Itakio]

fantomkitsune - Hover over the word "this" in the first line and you will see that it's hyperlinked to a video.

MprisM - I will update the first post.

 

[Micahc]

Yeah, you could do this in Melee with most if the characters, it was hugely useful with Sheiks needles since you could cancel them so fast.

 

[Itakio]

Don't Sheik's needles just cancel her momentum?

 

[Micahc]

Don't Sheik's needles just cancel her momentum?

Well, if it still changes the direction, then it's still useful. You could use it to run off the edge, change directions, and b-air them.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Isn't this just the reverse B from Melee? Its really not a new technique >.>

 

[Micahc]

Isn't this just the reverse B from Melee? Its really not a new technique >.>

Yeah, but now it's in Brawl! That's the 1 habit I don't have to break! I just have to reverse the order that I press the buttons...

 

[IronGorilla]

Isn't this just the reverse B from Melee? Its really not a new technique >.>

It looks a little different. For starters, When doing a reverse B in Melee, you didn't have that much control over your aerial momentum. It also appears that some characters can reverse their momentum without actually changing the direction their character is facing.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Wait, if this is just for discovering reverse B, I want credit for that, I found a vid of it a while ago(Oddly enough while I was looking for proof of L-canceling)

 

[Itakio]

It's not just a reverse B. Look at Lucario in the video at around :15. He runs forward, jumps forward, does a forward B but suddenly shifts his momentum backwards. That's the main point of the video.

 

[OrlanduEX]

Wait, if this is just for discovering reverse B, I want credit for that, I found a vid of it a while ago(Oddly enough while I was looking for proof of L-canceling)

Who cares about who gets credit for it? You didn't even discover the technique. You found a video of someone else doing it.

Besides, unless you name it after yourself, which will bring much flames, no one will even remember that you came up with it.

 

[Pink Reaper]

It's not just a reverse B. Look at Lucario in the video at around :15. He runs forward, jumps forward, does a forward B but suddenly shifts his momentum backwards. That's the main point of the video.

Thats called Directional Influence. Welcome to Smash boards >_>

And I don't really want credit for it, I just didn't know anyone was looking for this or else I would have bumped my old thread. I just assumed that it wasn't anything new so I let it die.