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I get what u mean, but Im starting to play in tournaments and stuff and I just don't think he can win. Also I like to use characters that I like outside of smash as well. Luckily for me Greninja is my favorite char and also my best. But idk I may just use meta knight for fun
It's chill. But, my logic is that at a low-mid level of Smash (AKA not Melee Gods level), then you can do so much better than everyone else if you have better knowledge of your character, no matter who you're playing. Take RRR, for example. He's a really good Melee Kirby main, and can win against others purely because he knows the character (AKA matchups, combos, and general playstyle) better than everyone else. However, as you progress into the higher levels of skill in Smash, you have to try much harder than everybody else in order to compete, and you will hit your peak before the higher tiered characters. For example, Hax. Hax used to be a Falcon player: one of the best. However, he believes that his Falcon would not be able to compete with the Foxes and the Marths in the top tier, when everyone's skill level is almost equivalent. So, he switched to Fox. There are still some good mid-tiers that hit top ranks though *ahem Axe*, so it really depends. However, since you're not at the top ranks yet, you should be fine.
You're approaching with up tilt?
Yeah, Battlefield is probably MK's best stage. I'm gonna keep trying with up-tilts to see where I go, but I am finding it difficult to approach with him. Still a really fun character like.
I saw a thread of this not long ago, but it doesn't seem to be known very well. I couldn't pull it off very well when I tried it, any tips?
If you play Ness, I'd just shield it. Then grab for your swanky Dthrow>Fair>Fair. At high percent, just Bthrow for the kill. If all your friend is doing is spamming drill rush, you should be able to get away with sitting in your shield all match(on reaction).
There isn't a sweetspot. It just does 15% from the ground and 12% from the air.
Try to position yourself so that he needs to cancel the drill into the floor to avoid flying off map. He will bounce and stall backward. Hard punish that. But if you're standing mid-stage you need to move. MK gets too many vertical kills for you to be worried about horizontal positioning. If you must shield, be sure to hold it up during the entire drill or until it is floor canceled. Idk why people like to put down their shield prematurely against MK but don't be that guy.
Oh that's neat I guess. Thanks!
What moves does dair out prioritize? Does it beat certain specials like Luigi's cyclone? Where does the hit send them?
I imagine not, but if you get Marth above you, uptilt and uair aren't too bad since Marth's dair is pretty slow. If you're diagonally below him, though, he can fair or nair you away
It does not matter if they are slow, because it requires patience to land a sweetspot as well
Having Tap Jump on or off won't effective your down throw combos. The benefit of tap jump is Up B OOS, which makes a solid kill option.
Thanks for the reply, I can say that I do most of what you said there. I will try out the Late Dash and Fast Fall nados.
I'm sure there is someone here who has more specifics and knowledge but in regards to D-Throws this is what I do.
I know exactly what you are talking about, its very common actually, rolls "feel" safe, but if the person is of moderate or higher skill they can punish it because each roll has a set distance and end lag that can't be modified. Someone who rolls too much can be set up upon. So without any video of you, all I can really say is make sure your rolls have a purpose. If they are not avoiding a real attack or confusing your opponents, then rolling is hurting your game. Record matches and evaluate yourself, that helps a bit. I would also say don't rely on rolls exclusively, add in power shields and spot dodges into your gameplay if you don't already, I have found that excessive rolling is mainly due to the lack of familiarity with other defensive options.
Nado is really good against a shielding opponent, if you Dair + fast fall nado on a shielded opponent, the sheer length of time of nado plus the little hits means that you will poke them out of shield, even at full strength. If you don't fast fall on nado you will rise too high which will get you punished, so its just a matter of practicing.
For Glory can be intense (was the case when I first playing on the 3ds), and during those moments we fall back to what we are comfortable with. Again practice with offline friends, practice mode, or on a new user account if you need to, because it really is just simply doing it, making errors, and eventually getting comfortable with it. Your game won't change if you don't experiment.
Cheers for the advice, especially with the Nado. I've always been trying to catch rolls with Dsmash, but now that you mention it, Nado seems great for preventing roll abuse.
The spacing part is just something you get used to, you can use small inputs of fast fall and jumps to maintain the appropriate spacing in you need to. MK is more of a disjointed brawler than a traditional swordsman. Beyond just practicing the move in a controlled environment, I don't know what advice for this beyond just to view his Uair in a similar manner as you would view Luigi's Uair. This move took me away to get used to (bad animations in 1.0.3 didn't help), but its something that can be conditioned.
