Meta Knight Q&A Thread

[K@0S]

Even with tap jump on, you shouldn't do up-air strings with it, because then you can't have your maximum horizontal DI while doing them. Jump and use C-stick up rapidly (use the claw, or be fast with your thumb).

 

[True Romance]

Thanks Roman. Although I just relized that i've always been playing with tap jump on without realizing it. I'm so stupid. When I actually tried turning it off I hated it. I can see why most Meta players keep it on. But do most Metas change controls like make x something else or Z do something else. I've been using the default controls lol.

Well when I mained D3 I had a different control setup, but when I decided I was gonna start use Metaknight a bit more seriously, I noted that Dojo and M2K both use default control setups. So if it's good enough for them it's probably good enough for us.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic_acid]

Any tips against toon link? I'm god awful at this match-up. So many projectiles everywhere.

 

[Affinity]

Any tips against toon link? I'm god awful at this match-up. So many projectiles everywhere.

Stay in his face as much as you can, basically.

Shut down his run-away game.

 

[Dojo]

Power shield the projectiles. It helps a **** ton in chasing him down which is your main objective.

Rush him down and wait for his zair. Powershield that and grab. Dthrow and chase at them. Usually they'll zair, but with correct timing you can actually powershield that, rush them and re-grab. It's pretty fast but possible.

If you're in a position where you're shielding next to each other wait for his move. Usually they like to jump aerial oos. Just shield that and aerial oos. It ***** them.

Focus on getting them offstage. Learning how to edgeguard him isn't hard. If they throw a boomerang just manuever around it. Just watch the jump fair at you. If they try this just simply use a jump then fast fall dair on them. If you can hit them with 2 dairs or more off stage they're usually done.

I love Toon Link. :]

 

[Palpi]

Yo Dojo, you have teamed with hylian a few times right?

What should metaknights main role throughout the match be when teaming with a G&W?

It is not like I am with a character snake who can consistently stocktank, though G&W momentum cancelling is great.

Basically, should I be very patient and nado spammy?

 

[Dojo]

MK/GW is deadly but it requires alot of teamwork. I teamed with UTD Zac (who imo is one of the best doubles players in the world) for Genesis and I had to convert my style alot to work with him.

You wanna focus on racking damage and getting grabs. Any grabs MK gets after 90 or so, depending on the character, is a free kill from a running GW upsmash. Grab to smashes are freaking amazing with this team.

That's really all I focused on was racking damage with aerials, tilts, and getting grabs. Zac did the rest. Managed to get us 3rd and we beat M2K and Fiction in winners. Usually ended up in Zac getting 5 or 6 kills every game. xD

 

[Waymas]

is mk banned 100% or just on sum specific places , kause i heared theyre banin him om whobo singles, but not in dubz

 

[Steel]

It's up the tournament organizer.

 

[Palpi]

I just realized I need Help with the Lucario match up. I played Zucco yesterday in 2nd round of winner at Viridian city and he gave me lots of troubles. I got him to like 5% last stock one time and he 2 stocked me the other time. It felt like I couldn't do anything. He is a great player though.

Any Lucario tips?

 

[Sushi-Man]

Dair camp. Next question?

 

[GeneralWoodman]

if im playing offline and i make loud ya!ya!ya! noises as i smash my b button, will it improve my chances of winning?

 

[Hype]

Only if you're getting chain grabbed by Ice climbers.

 

[Scabe]

How many MK mains would you say there are?

And, how do you guys cope with all the **** that people say about MK?

 

[Sushi-Man]

The same number of licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop

Therapy

 

[Affinity]

And, how do you guys cope with all the **** that people say about MK?

I haven't noticed it IRL.

I don't hang out with scrubs.

 

[*JuriHan*]

if im playing offline and i make loud ya!ya!ya! noises as i smash my b button, will it improve my chances of winning?

it's "hi-yi-yi-yi-ya!" iirc. You're doing it wrong. Say his jab.

 

[Palpi]

How many MK mains would you say there are?

And, how do you guys cope with all the **** that people say about MK?

The community is very friendly in person. When people are arguing saying MK is broken or he isn't broken online, when they get to tournaments, it is the TO's decision on what happens with MK. People accept that and move on. I have actually been in a serious debate with someone in the MK ban thread and there were insults flying around because we both thought eachother's points were absurd. At the tournaments after that, there wasn't anything mentioned at all.

Affinity. only scrubs think he should be banned!!! x# (semi-joking)

Oh there is only 8 mk mainers. Truth

 

[Affinity]

Affinity. only scrubs think he should be banned!!! x# (semi-joking)

That was my point lol

 

[C.box]

On what frame does mk do his mid-air jump (frame 2 right?).

 

[Affinity]

On what frame does mk do his mid-air jump (frame 2 right?).

I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

Are you referring to his U-air?

 

[Palpi]

Dude your text was freaking me out, im like... wait wtf is that?!!?!?

 

[Affinity]

http://www.tektek.org/color/

It's addicting lol

 

[True Romance]

Hey guys sorry if this has already been asked, my search function isn't working for some reason...

Um as an ex D3 main I have a habbit of doing running shield grabs with all characters as apposed to dash grabbing, as in D3's case his shield grab is vastly superior.

This is infact not the case with meta knight right? I am led to believe that metas dash grab is better then his running shield grab? I think I've heard this before but I want confirmation from the people in the know

Cheers

 

[Jupz]

I'm pretty sure all characters shield grabs have longer range then their dash grabs

 

[Palpi]

I am pretty sure Lucario's standing grab has less range then his dash grab.

 

[CRASHiC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzuwHdC7No8

What the hell happened a little past 2:00 here.
The MK jumps way hi.
I'd guess he added the last bit of momentum to his jump.

 

[Affinity]

I'd guess he added the last bit of momentum to his jump.

Yep .

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Hello. I am from the Lucas boards and we have started a MU thread and would like the input of the for MU's. Right now we have just started Metaknight. If someone could come and help us that would be great. Thank You.

Link to thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=246877

 

[Kaffei]

I have a few questions:

Which moves do I use for damage racking?
Which moves do I use for killing?
Which moves do I use for spacing or zoning?

Basically.. How do I play MK?

 

[Palpi]

There is a guide for a reason.

 

[Kaffei]

There is a guide for a reason.

I didn't see it. Sorry. >_<

 

[Palpi]

I was thinking about answering you then I slapped my self LOL. No problem hehe

 

[Steel]

I have a few questions:

Which moves do I use for damage racking?
Which moves do I use for killing?
Which moves do I use for spacing or zoning?

Basically.. How do I play MK?

you can figure out those first 3 questions after spending a few minutes in training mode.

 

[Jikko]

how can MK abuse other ppl's air releases?

what moves of MKs are easily punishable?

 

[12345678910]

how can MK abuse other ppl's air releases?

what moves of MKs are easily punishable?

His whiffed up B / specials are easily punished as they all put MK in free fall state and he has terrible aerial movement(also his tornado has a some start up time so take advantage of it). His jab is easily punished as well but MK's moves are relatively harder to punish compared to the rest of the cast as long has he spaces them correctly or doesn't use things like jab, side special, and down special on the stage.

 

[Jupz]

how can MK abuse other ppl's air releases?

what moves of MKs are easily punishable?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=240588

for the first one

 

[Deoxyribonucleic_acid]

I have a few questions:

Which moves do I use for damage racking?
Which moves do I use for killing?
Which moves do I use for spacing or zoning?

Basically.. How do I play MK?

1. aerials, nado, grabs
2. Dsmash, shuttle loop
3. Ftilt Dtilt Fair

 

[Smash G 0 D]

Can't you UpB Wario's air release? That's how I get a lot of my kills on Wario. At high % just land a grab, wait, and UpB

 

[Dojo]

They can ground break against MK. If you wanna do a GR to UpB on Wario, you have to dash grab them and have them dangling off the edge.