smasher01
Smash Ace
when i play me friend he always punishes me when i f-tilt even when i dont finish with the third hit.
mabe its because hes snake?idk tips?lol
mabe its because hes snake?idk tips?lol
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Meta Knight Q&A Thread
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Affinity
Smash Hero
You're probably not spacing it correctly.
best way to not get punished is to not expose yourself, don't attack shields, space aerials and retreat them if they shield it, use cross ups to make it more confusing to try and hit you...ftilt isn't really a safe attack against anyone that has good fast ranged attacls(like snake), and even without that it can be punished especially if not spaced very well. dtilt is a fairly safe ground move and aerials are great, waiting for an opening and then running in also allows safe approach because your opponent will still be suffering lag
Sushi-Man
Smash Ace
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mackorony101
There are some matches of m2k vs. dsf (mk) and sk92 (falco) vs. dsf (mk) from S.I.N if anybody is interested
There are some matches of m2k vs. dsf (mk) and sk92 (falco) vs. dsf (mk) from S.I.N if anybody is interested
**** that ****, I wanna see the 13-year old Ness playing kid who beat Tyrant.
smasher01
Smash Ace
1. test it out you have wii right?
2. bair is not as good cuz the range seems to be shorter just mix up f-tilts and f-airs and air camp d-airs,and you should be fine .just try to save down smash for KO
3. like i said its not that useful only when you 100% know you can hit them with it i would rather approach with a stale f-air than a refreshed b-air.
4.because it lets them set up their bananas and i find that d-air trades hits with diddys air attacks if you can time it out right. Its better to be in their face not leting them pull out a bananas tho. GL
2. bair is not as good cuz the range seems to be shorter just mix up f-tilts and f-airs and air camp d-airs,and you should be fine .just try to save down smash for KO
3. like i said its not that useful only when you 100% know you can hit them with it i would rather approach with a stale f-air than a refreshed b-air.
4.because it lets them set up their bananas and i find that d-air trades hits with diddys air attacks if you can time it out right. Its better to be in their face not leting them pull out a bananas tho. GL
smasher01
Smash Ace
O and question. if snake keep smash DI ing out of tornado can you jusy press b faster to make them stay in it?
my friend keeps smash DI ing out of it when im nadoing high in the air and i get punishing because of the landing lag from nado.
my friend keeps smash DI ing out of it when im nadoing high in the air and i get punishing because of the landing lag from nado.
Affinity
Smash Hero
Are you referring to you trying to get a early % tornado KO off the top?
If you are, you're probably just not using a jump right before the tornado. They shouldn't be able to get out if you do it correctly.
smasher01
Smash Ace
no i mean they smash DI out of it and punish me because i have lag when i hit the floor. ps (im fighting snake)
How should I go about when trying to plank on norfair? I'm tired of people picking this gay *** stage, so I want to gay the hell out of them when they do pick it. I've decided to always strike japes due to the croc, so I might as well learn my other most hated stage.
Shuttle loop oos
theAPExp
Smash Ace
i main ddd. if my opponent mains a character who can be chain grabbed and alts meta;
is cp'ing castlesiege a reliable option to use even assuming he will fall to his alt to avoid the gay, or should i just play it safe and go fd if it's up? any other suggestions would be appreciated
is cp'ing castlesiege a reliable option to use even assuming he will fall to his alt to avoid the gay, or should i just play it safe and go fd if it's up? any other suggestions would be appreciated
smasher01
Smash Ace
how should i use nado on snake?
should i stay near the ground whens hes in it so he cant smash DI out and punish me
o and how do you F-tilt cancel
should i stay near the ground whens hes in it so he cant smash DI out and punish me
o and how do you F-tilt cancel
Affinity
Smash Hero
If you can, try to get the top of his head with the tornado so the grenade he may be holding falls to the ground and doesn't hit you.
smasher01
Smash Ace
ok nice should i bring him up in the air with the nado when he gets in it?
when i seem to take him to the air he smash DI s out if it and punishes my lag because you have lag when you land with nado when when you are high up and he punishes me with B-air or somthing.
when i seem to take him to the air he smash DI s out if it and punishes my lag because you have lag when you land with nado when when you are high up and he punishes me with B-air or somthing.
Affinity
Smash Hero
If you catch him with the middle or bottom of the tornado, he shouldn't be able to get out unless he's holding a grenade while in it.
smasher01
Smash Ace
o ok ty.
o and how do you f-tilt cancel
o and how do you f-tilt cancel
magikguy
Smash Lord
delay it ? ?
Hype
Smash Lord
For an MK + Snake team, what are some good 2v1 infinites?
Sushi-Man
Smash Ace
You can do an omni-gay by attaching a c4 onto the mk and mk can upthrow the opponent and the snake can blow them up to take a stock off of the opponent. The catch is that mk has to have the higher controller spot than the opponent.
AFAIK, this isn't correct. I believe the MK needs to be in the lower port than the Snake (port 3 or 4 depending on which set of ports the team has).
There are also a bunch of combos MK and Snake can do together:
MK dthrow at the ledge -> Snake fair spike
MK uthrow -> Snake utilt (or uair dependind on how high the character goes)
MK grab release -> Snake fsmash
Snake footstool -> MK dtilt lock
Snake dthrow -> pretty much anything
Snake utilt on opponent and MK (if he'll survive it) -> MK following DI, momentum canceling with uair, uair stringing, and Tornado to kill off the top.
Snake and MK work REALLY well together in teams imo.
Affinity
Smash Hero
I'm pretty sure that's what he means; 4 being the highest number.
And yes, this works really well if you have enough practice with it. I used to do this all the time with my last teammate. The key to pulling this off consistantly, though, is grabbing your opponent while the C4 is on you, then waiting for Snake to say "NOW!". If you get the timing down this way, it'll be super easy.
And yes, you'll always want Port 4 for this (higher than all opponents). Snake's port is irrelevant.
Oh ok. I get confused sometimes by what exactly people mean when they talk about highest/lowest port.
Hype
Smash Lord
What's the best thing to do when a snake is above you on a platform and he just pulled a nade?
Utilt or use uair strings. Go for shuttle loop anyway if he's high enough to be killed and the grenade damage won't hurt you too much. Definitely not Tornado though.
CaliburChamp
Smash Master
Answers.
1. The newest tornado always beats it.
2. Smash DI up and back with the control stick while hitting your c-stick in a direction. Good Smash DI practice can be used when you use a smart bomb on yourself in training mode, since it's a multi hit explosion try to smash DI as fast as you can from the explosion.
3. I don't know about Marth since he is a tall character, I think he can always grab release you when your MK. I know in MK dittos, if an MK grabs you, don't press anything, otherwise you will be grab released and you will get grabbed all the way across the stage. MK isn't tall enough to have a guaranteed grab release combo IF your opponent knows how to get out of it.
grab releases are caused by taller characters, if your feet aren't touching the ground when being held, you will be air released. marth can always air release you unless you mash out when he is pummeling, fair, DS, and dair(rare, I think they have like 2-3 frames or something margin of error so you don't see it attempted much), he can also do other things as mixups like up smash that can be avoided but may catch you if you're unprepared, watch out for that x_x marth's pivot grab is great and beats out most of your dashing approaches, so don't run at marth when the game is in the neutral state, especially at low %(dthrow to fsmash is 24%) or at KO % since he can set up kill moves with this
MK is short so a ton of characters have grab release things on him, yoshi and bowser can chain grab you across the stage with it, yoshi is another character with a good pivot grab so be careful about that. shorter characters can only air release you in some situations like if you hit jump while attempting to mash out
MK is short so a ton of characters have grab release things on him, yoshi and bowser can chain grab you across the stage with it, yoshi is another character with a good pivot grab so be careful about that. shorter characters can only air release you in some situations like if you hit jump while attempting to mash out
Affinity
Smash Hero
1) Yes, priority. Whoever is pressing B faster will win.
2) SDI up, I believe.
3) MK will always get air-released by characters that, when MK gets grabbed, his feet are dangling above the ground. This is why characters like Marth and Snake have air-release setups on him.
For a character like Fox to get you to air-release, who's not tall enough to force one, you have to input a jump command while you're being grabbed. Needless to say, don't input a jump command while being grabbed by Fox unless you want to get Up-smashed.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDxv3hvmt6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXz9vicXrlg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7R8hBgoyZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99f-oy3D7xk
>_< try these. i get hit alot by his jabs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXz9vicXrlg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7R8hBgoyZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99f-oy3D7xk
>_< try these. i get hit alot by his jabs
Shadow 111
Smash Lord
1. i'm pretty sure where you hit with your tornado vs the other mk's tornado determines it... i've never really believed that theory of "newest one wins" because it does not always work that way. usually if you both charge straight at eachother in torandos, they will cancel out... and if one mk is slightly above the other mk, the higher mk seems to win.
not sure if that's completely true, but i'm postivie that the newest tornado does not always win.
2. smash DIing INTO pit is actually the best option, or so it seems. same with diddy... you should smash DI the first hit into them so that you end up behind them and the second hit will not hit you. if you don't DI it far enough, the worst that will happen is you wiull get hit by the back of the second hit, sending you in the opposite direction, which if you're near the edge of the vstage, can still save you.
3. you can mash any button other than the jump commands to get out of a grab without having to worry about being air released.... maybe you knew that already, but the way you said " don't press anything" made it seem liek you didn't.
oh, ****... i didn't see affinity's post XD. my bad.. not gonna erase what i said anyway though.
affinity- you know for sure that the mk pressing b faster wins? i didn't know that and that would REALLY help lol.
DUCKAtl
Smash Apprentice
Hey, does any one know a good stage for me to train my meta knight on, does anyone know a good character to train meta knight against, tips for training?
ksizl4life
Smash Hero
play level 3 snakes on smashville all day. im serious.
DUCKAtl
Smash Apprentice
anyone else?