Data Meta Knight Hitbox Visualization

Furil

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#1
Smash 4 hitboxes are interpolated, so imagine a line between a hitbox's current position and it's last. It hits that area too.
Example: http://i.imgur.com/wEBKNpI.gif
You'll notice that meta knight has trail-like hitboxes.
This is because he swings his sword so fast, that the move would miss with interpolation on the blade.

There are potentially bugs in any of these, so let me know if you notice anything particuarly off and I'll check. There have been instances of weird hitboxes that ended up being a bug.
Meta-knight has some long code for most attacks, so that could leave room for error anywhere here.

Those little purple dots indicate that that hitbox is defensive. I don't really know exactly what that means. Extended ones will only have the dot side the first point.

Meta-knights jab has a bug right now, so I'll get it later.






Mini-FAQ:
Q: How did you make these?
A: I made a parser for animcmd commands and applied it to the model and animation.

Q: Can you do hurtboxes?
A: Not yet

Q: These don't look like the quality of the wii u models, why?
A: These are 3DS models (and data). There isn't a difference in frame data between Wii U and 3DS.

Q: This attack looks wrong, is this actually correct?
A: Let me know which one and I'll check. It's possible for a bug or two to mess up stuff.

Q: The image isn't playing.
A: There are play, reverse, and frame advance buttons under the images. They may be hard to see.

Thank you
 
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Jamurai

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#4
Great work, thank you.

Initial observations: lol dash attack. Dtilt is unfortunate. Pivot grab data is great, you can see it is disjointed by almost exactly one Meta Knight glove-length.

For Shuttle Loop's first hit, I assume the higher hitbox sends them upwards, while the lower hitbox "locks" them in place?

*@Katakiri sticky?
 
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Furil

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Usually there are only problems with location/timing.
The size on F-smash should be right, and it's not attached to a bone, so position should be fine too.
If someone can double check in-game, that would be nice.

I'll add the aerial shuttle loop real fast.
 
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Magnemite

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#7
any chance we could get dimensional cape? the attack hits from farther away than you'd think sometimes so it would be nice to see.
 

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#9
Thanks you guys for doing this , for some reason , Pikachu can't get upsmashed in his idle animation :
Is it me or it's the hitbox ?
 

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Yes I was waiting for when it was Meta Knight's turn! Thank you so much!

I knew Dash Attack had 3 hitboxes. I did not know that they were all out at the same time... or that it was that disjointed.
 
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It looks like the Defensive hitboxes might be hits that pull enemies in, seeing as they show up mostly in Meta Knight's multihit moves. Thoughts?
 
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#12
Hey here's a concern

Can we get hitbox data on secondary throw hitboxes? Like, uthrow, bthrow, fthrow... Kinda important for rosa mu + doubles
 

eclipsis17

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Thank you so much for this! Anyone know which hitbox on SL is the sweetspot launcher? DA is as ridiculous as we thought it was and knowing for sure now that Dair doesn't have more range behind MK will definitely be useful. Let's get this stickied asap
 

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#18
How times have changed...

I know MK is really good anyway, but it still makes me sad that so many of his hitboxes are so much smaller than the actual sword. Some of his attacks look really ridiculous that way.

Not just that but Smash 4 dair is out for only ONE frame... What the hell
 

Jamurai

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#21
You can see there is a portion of the hitbox which hits lower (and higher) than the rest of it near to MK.



If you space it so the bottom of the circular bit overlaps with the ledge, that's when it catches people.
 
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#22
So characters without hitboxes on their recovery, (Rosa, Greninja, Duck Hunt, Olimar, ect.) can be two frames easier? Is it possible to lab which characters get two framed easier than the rest?
 

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#25
Dunno if you've found this out already, but I believe it is the back hitbox.
Ew. Just looked at it. I don't really understand the design choice. The only thing I can think of in terms of use is as a combo ender horizontally after you've been carrying them with up airs you do a turnaround up air when NAir wouldn't hit. I feel like it is so obscure I've never actually seen anyone get hit by it.

Anyway, thanks for the info.
 

Jamurai

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Ew. Just looked at it. I don't really understand the design choice. The only thing I can think of in terms of use is as a combo ender horizontally after you've been carrying them with up airs you do a turnaround up air when NAir wouldn't hit. I feel like it is so obscure I've never actually seen anyone get hit by it.

Anyway, thanks for the info.
It is a bit weird. Only notable thing I've seen about it is Ito turning around mid-air near the end of his 0-death on Trevonte a few months ago to get him in a nice position for the up-B finish.
 

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#28
Is MK's uair hitbox actually THAT terrible?! Jesus H just fix his hitboxes. 1.1.7 hitboxes, fix.
Also Fair auto cancel
 
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