Melee Netplay Community Build - 0.2.0 released!

[Stormghetti]

Formatting will delete files. That's the point, if you have corrupted files.

Chkdsk is a command-line process to check file system integrity. It usually starts prompting you with it before a harddrive fails or if an SD card has corrupted. It won't delete files generally.

About to go into class, but Google should have explanations.

Thanks... But the files are pretty much fresh, I guess it's because my Wii got bricked and I'm using a weird backup file...

 

[SinsOfApathy]

Thanks... But the files are pretty much fresh, I guess it's because my Wii got bricked and I'm using a weird backup file...

Back up != fresh. I've had multiple ISOs that are bad dumps either due to the disc drive or the filesystem.

 

[Stormghetti]

Back up != fresh. I've had multiple ISOs that are bad dumps either due to the disc drive or the filesystem.

Well, I've installed the ISO just recently...

 

[Stormghetti]

Back up != fresh. I've had multiple ISOs that are bad dumps either due to the disc drive or the filesystem.

I guess I'll format it and re-try, but I don't really see how will that fix it.

 

[thegreninja47]

You can play onlline with nintendont!. So can you play with other people, or just local. If so how?

 

[20LC]

You can play onlline with nintendont!. So can you play with other people, or just local. If so how?

You can only play local on console.

 

[Avalancer]

Is there a way to run this on GC off of a memory card? This seems perfect for tournaments with the lagless FoD (which makes it legal for teams) and other features.

 

[CeLL]

Is there a way to run this on GC off of a memory card? This seems perfect for tournaments with the lagless FoD (which makes it legal for teams) and other features.

No.

 

[9Blades]

You can only play local on console.

So there's no way to play with someone anywhere like on Dolphin?

 

[Chayce]

So there's no way to play with someone anywhere like on Dolphin?

none so far, maybe one day

 

[FlyKoBo]

So if I want to play this my opponent needs to also have the community build?

 

[Myougi]

So if I want to play this my opponent needs to also have the community build?

Both parties must have the Community Build to be able to play it online.

 

[Myougi]

(Double post on purpose since this is important)
Hey all, if you have ever used the Community Build, could you please give us some feedback? We're trying to determine the most requested features for a future build, or if a future build is even warranted at all. I prepared a short questionnaire you can find below. Let me know your thoughts!

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9HWLZ3X

 

[Godwin_Point]

Hello !
I answered the survey a while ago, saying that I used this build for my local scene and all : o)
I was just wondering, how did you change the layout in the SSS? I saw a lot of tutorials about textures and all, but I have no idea how to do this

 

[Le Golden Magikarp]

Is there a way that i can transfer the lagless FoD of this build to other versions of melee (particularly 20XX)

 

[Masondeanm]

Does this have better performance than vanilla Melee if you're just using it locally?

 

[Myougi]

Hello !
I answered the survey a while ago, saying that I used this build for my local scene and all : o)
I was just wondering, how did you change the layout in the SSS? I saw a lot of tutorials about textures and all, but I have no idea how to do this

Thanks for answering the survey!
The layout of the SSS was changed by finding and editing the position of the stage icons on the SSS. A lot of stage icons are grouped together (like a row) and had to be moved all at once. I can't find it, but I think either I or Jorgasms made a post on the SSS a long time ago in the thread Melee Hacks and You.

Is there a way that i can transfer the lagless FoD of this build to other versions of melee (particularly 20XX)

There is. You need to inject this lagless FoD code into your Start.dol (all four parts):

@0x1C87B4
48000115 -> 60000000
@0x1C8ADC
41820028 -> 48000028
@0x1C8B34
48000BC5 -> 60000000
@0x1C8B64
4BFFD775 -> 60000000

Does this have better performance than vanilla Melee if you're just using it locally?

There's no difference in performance between vMelee and the Community Build if used locally in normal tournament play. If you are using the lagless FoD in local doubles, there is little to no lag.

 

[Masondeanm]

There's no difference in performance between vMelee and the Community Build if used locally in normal tournament play. If you are using the lagless FoD in local doubles, there is little to no lag.

That was vague, my bad. I meant specifically for use with Dolphin.

 

[Godwin_Point]

Myougi > Thanks for the answer : o) I'll do some archeology on that thread

Do you mind me tweaking your mod for my local scene? (Still giving you credit for the mod itself of course : o) )
I'm trying to build a "frankenstein" version of your mod based on 20xx(I like the look/musics stages and style of your mod but I also need 20xx function to teach some beginner how to play melee)
That why I'd like to be able to transfer the SSS on a 20xx copy of the game, but I still need to understand how to swap the stages(if you just move the SSS over, clicking on the yoshi's island icon will load icicle mountain etc..)

 

[Myougi]

Myougi > Thanks for the answer : o) I'll do some archeology on that thread

Do you mind me tweaking your mod for my local scene? (Still giving you credit for the mod itself of course : o) )
I'm trying to build a "frankenstein" version of your mod based on 20xx(I like the look/musics stages and style of your mod but I also need 20xx function to teach some beginner how to play melee)
That why I'd like to be able to transfer the SSS on a 20xx copy of the game, but I still need to understand how to swap the stages(if you just move the SSS over, clicking on the yoshi's island icon will load icicle mountain etc..)

Swapping stages on the SSS (where they actually link to) required DOL modding. I changed the icons/preview text of each stage individually via texture hacking later. You can easily do the same thing and swap in/out stages using the same method, though it's probs outdated by now.

Here's a list of all the stage values and their offsets. These should be for vanilla.

Spoiler: SSS Stage Values/Icon Values

Key:
Name
Offset in the Start.DOL (They are all 0x1C apart)
AABBCCDD

AA - Stage type?
BB - Icon/Model/Text Preview ID
CC - Stage Select Menu ID
DD - Stage to load ID

Peach's Castle
0x3ED6D8
02000004

Rainbow Cruise
0x3ED6F4
02010C0B

Kongo Jungle
0x3ED710
02020105

Jungle Japes
0x3ED72C
02030D0C

Great Bay
0x3ED748
0204020D

Hyrule Temple
0x3ED764
02050E0E

Yoshi's Story
0x3ED780
02080408

Yoshi's Island Melee
0x3ED79C
02091010

FoD
0x3ED7B8
020A0502

Green Greens
0x3ED7D4
020B1111

Corneria
0x3ED7F0
020C0607

Venom
0x3ED80C
020D1216

Brinstar
0x3ED828
02060306

Brinstar Depths
0x3ED844
02070F0F

Onett
0x3ED860
02120909

Fourside
0x3ED87C
02131512

Mute City
0x3ED898
0210080A

Big Blue
0x3ED8B4
02111418

Pokemon Stadium
0x3ED8D0
020E0703

Poke Floats
0x3ED8EC
020F1317

Mushroom Kingdom I
0x3ED908
02140B13

Mushroom Kingdom II
0x3ED924
02151614

Icicle Mountain
0x3ED940
02160A19

Flatzone
0x3ED95C
0217171B

Battlefield
0x3ED978
0218181F

Final Destination
0x3ED994
02191920

Dream Land
0x3ED9B0
021A1A1C

Yoshi's Island 64
0x3ED9CC
021B1B1D

Kongo Jungle 64
0x3ED9E8
021C1C1E

Random?
0x3EDA04
021D0000

So if you want to have your 20XX/Comm Build Hybrid SSS link to the right stages, you should just have to copy and paste all the modified SSS stage values to the ones in the Community Build. Just open up the Community Build's Start.DOL in a hex editor, then copy from 3ED6D8 - 3EDA08 and paste it in the same location in your 20XX Start.DOL. If that doesn't work let me know, this is kinda off the top of my head.

That was vague, my bad. I meant specifically for use with Dolphin.

It depends on your computer then. If you have a lower-end computer, you'll see better performance with the build. If you have a higher-end computer, you're not going to notice much of a difference at all.

 

[Godwin_Point]

Thank you so much for the detailled answer ! I'll look into that this afternoon

Those info really help me understanding the melee file stucture, I'm starting to really like melee "hack".
I probably won't do anything crazy but it's fun to learn : o)

 

[Masondeanm]

It depends on your computer then. If you have a lower-end computer, you'll see better performance with the build. If you have a higher-end computer, you're not going to notice much of a difference at all.

Okay thanks! I'll just err on the side of performance and use it then. Is there a possibility for a proper widescreen option?

 

[Myougi]

Okay thanks! I'll just err on the side of performance and use it then. Is there a possibility for a proper widescreen option?

Yes and no. If you're running it on dolphin you can use this Gecko code to force the game to boot into Widescreen. This is also in the main post:

16:9 Widescreen Support (v1.02) [InternetExplorer]
C2021ABC 00000002
39C00001 38600006
60000000 00000000
C236A4A8 00000007
C03F0034 2C0E0001
41820024 3C004080
90010030 3C004040
90010034 C0010030
EC210032 C0010034
EC210024 39C00000
281E0000 00000000

 

[Masondeanm]

Yes and no. If you're running it on dolphin you can use this Gecko code to force the game to boot into Widescreen. This is also in the main post:

16:9 Widescreen Support (v1.02) [InternetExplorer]
C2021ABC 00000002
39C00001 38600006
60000000 00000000
C236A4A8 00000007
C03F0034 2C0E0001
41820024 3C004080
90010030 3C004040
90010034 C0010030
EC210032 C0010034
EC210024 39C00000
281E0000 00000000

Mind pointing my to a guide to show me how to use said code? I'd already spent an hour or two trying to use that exact code before I posted here. Tried updating the .ini file and all that good stuff. It just wouldn't work. I couldn't even get the cheat code to show up in the menu (on Dolphin).

 

[Myougi]

Mind pointing my to a guide to show me how to use said code? I'd already spent an hour or two trying to use that exact code before I posted here. Tried updating the .ini file and all that good stuff. It just wouldn't work. I couldn't even get the cheat code to show up in the menu (on Dolphin).

Also from the main post:
Open up Dolphin and right click on your MNCB iso, select properties, go to the 'Gecko Codes' tab, click edit config, then paste the following:
[Gecko]
$16:9 Widescreen Support (v1.02) [InternetExplorer]
C2021ABC 00000002
39C00001 38600006
60000000 00000000
C236A4A8 00000007
C03F0034 2C0E0001
41820024 3C004080
90010030 3C004040
90010034 C0010030
EC210032 C0010034
EC210024 39C00000
281E0000 00000000

Some quick things to remember with using Gecko codes in Dolphin:
'[Gecko]' must be at the top of the entire text document for Dolphin to register Gecko codes.
'$' must be in front of a name of a Gecko code. Names can have spaces like the one above. On the line following the code's name must be the Gecko code itself.

 

[Masondeanm]

Also from the main post:
Open up Dolphin and right click on your MNCB iso, select properties, go to the 'Gecko Codes' tab, click edit config, then paste the following:
[Gecko]
$16:9 Widescreen Support (v1.02) [InternetExplorer]
C2021ABC 00000002
39C00001 38600006
60000000 00000000
C236A4A8 00000007
C03F0034 2C0E0001
41820024 3C004080
90010030 3C004040
90010034 C0010030
EC210032 C0010034
EC210024 39C00000
281E0000 00000000

Some quick things to remember with using Gecko codes in Dolphin:
'[Gecko]' must be at the top of the entire text document for Dolphin to register Gecko codes.
'$' must be in front of a name of a Gecko code. Names can have spaces like the one above. On the line following the code's name must be the Gecko code itself.

Yeah that exact thing doesn't work. I put it in the file, save it, nothing happens in dolphin. Then when I open the file again it rewrites it to blank again.

 

[Myougi]

Yeah that exact thing doesn't work. I put it in the file, save it, nothing happens in dolphin. Then when I open the file again it rewrites it to blank again.

Can you send me a screenshot? It should just look like this:

 

[Masondeanm]

Can you send me a screenshot? It should just look like this:

Think it could be an OS X problem?

Edit: Yeah I just did it in Windows and it worked fine, that's unfortunate, I don't want to have to switch operating systems to play.

 

[Myougi]

Think it could be an OS X problem?

Edit: Yeah I just did it in Windows and it worked fine, that's unfortunate, I don't want to have to switch operating systems to play.

It might be...
I honestly don't know though. Gecko codes should work like that no matter the OS. Are both version of Dolphin the same on both computers/OSes and are cheats enabled in the Config menu on both? I can't think of anything directly that would be the problem.

 

[Doq]

It might be...
I honestly don't know though. Gecko codes should work like that no matter the OS. Are both version of Dolphin the same on both computers/OSes and are cheats enabled in the Config menu on both? I can't think of anything directly that would be the problem.

It's because of how Windows parses text files (****ing CRLF instead of just CR)

 

[Masondeanm]

It might be...
I honestly don't know though. Gecko codes should work like that no matter the OS. Are both version of Dolphin the same on both computers/OSes and are cheats enabled in the Config menu on both? I can't think of anything directly that would be the problem.

Yeah, exact same everything. Whatever, now that 20XX TE is out I'll probably be using that for local play. Still performs just as well and it has a widescreen toggle in game.

 

[Masondeanm]

It's because of how Windows parses text files (****ing CRLF instead of just CR)

Wait so you know why it's not working on OS X? Do you know how to fix it?

 

[Doq]

Wait so you know why it's not working on OS X? Do you know how to fix it?

In Mac no.

In some Linux text editors is an option for CR, LF, or CRLF.

 

[Masondeanm]

In Mac no.

In some Linux text editors is an option for CR, LF, or CRLF.

So if I can, change it to CLRF?

 

[ShaVark]

Iv'e looked up and down this thread and It seems my problem is a bit different than most.

When I go to open up XdeltaUI... Nothing happens. No window pops up.. just nothing. I've tried to run it as admin, and still no go.

Any solutions?

 

[Myougi]

Iv'e looked up and down this thread and It seems my problem is a bit different than most.

When I go to open up XdeltaUI... Nothing happens. No window pops up.. just nothing. I've tried to run it as admin, and still no go.

Any solutions?

Are you using running Windows or OSX?
If you're running OSX, try using Multipatch. If you're running Windows, try running it from an administrator's account of using the patcher though command line.

 

[Dswfty]

I got the ISO to patch and it works perfect on my Mac. But when I turned it off and then turned it back on my controller didn't want to work, even after reinstalling the driver for the controller adapter. Any idea what the issue could be?

 

[Youma]

This build is incredible!! Thank you for all the work you guys put in into making this. I especially love the lagless FoD where now I can play doubles with my friends. Hopefully this will be added in 20XX TE so we can somehow have it in the stage list, death to kongo jungle as CP.

 

[ShaVark]

Are you using running Windows or OSX?
If you're running OSX, try using Multipatch. If you're running Windows, try running it from an administrator's account of using the patcher though command line.

I'm on windows 7, and attempted to run via admin as I stated in my previous post.

 

[Myougi]

I got the ISO to patch and it works perfect on my Mac. But when I turned it off and then turned it back on my controller didn't want to work, even after reinstalling the driver for the controller adapter. Any idea what the issue could be?

If your controller isn't working, that's not an issue with the build and is probably an issue with Dolphin. Check these controller setup guides on SmashLadder, they may help:
https://www.smashladder.com/guides/view/258h/controller-setup-guide

This build is incredible!! Thank you for all the work you guys put in into making this. I especially love the lagless FoD where now I can play doubles with my friends. Hopefully this will be added in 20XX TE so we can somehow have it in the stage list, death to kongo jungle as CP.

You're welcome, and thanks a ton!
..don't talk smack about Kongo Jungle 64 though. I'm watching you.

I'm on windows 7, and attempted to run via admin as I stated in my previous post.

Try temporarily disabling any anti-virus software you might have, or let XDeltaUI.exe and XDelta.exe though their firewall. Something is probably blocking it.