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Melee History Lesson 2002-Brawl or GET OFF MY LAWN YOU KIDS

stingers

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this thread was a pretty great read. can't wait for the update. I do remember dc++ hub though and I'm not that old.
 

KishPrime

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With 2,400 views, I really expected more disagreements.

Am I missing anything that should be on there? <_<

Also, no I'm not done yet.
 

TheCrimsonBlur

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What a fantastic read.

Smash history is awesome.

...as far as what you are missing, I'd include:

1. The formation of H2YL
2. The Gauntlet tournament series and DA
3. something about EVO
 

M3D

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Top tier thread Tim. Thanks for writing all this up for the young whipper-snappers out there who don't know anything about their roots.
 

defsithe

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i think i have a CD of old smash videos floating around my house somewhere hahaha. it used to get me through my classes. XD

i agree with crimsonblur something about evo

also something about MOAST3 please? cuz its texas? lol
 

Mike G

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What a fantastic read.

Smash history is awesome.

...as far as what you are missing, I'd include:

1. The formation of H2YL
2. The Gauntlet tournament series and DA
3. something about EVO


These totally need to happen. I'll contact Wes and the rest of the crew for Input on number 2
 

stingers

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how many people are left from like...pre-melee? when the site was first made? it'd be cool to hear about the first month or two of the release from people.
 

john!

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how many people are left from like...pre-melee? when the site was first made? it'd be cool to hear about the first month or two of the release from people.
see "swf global rules" on top of the forum?

http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=10

member number 10 apparently (even though he joined before members 5-3 lol). talk about old school!

speaking of which, gideon joined on 8-21-2000, which means SWF'S 10TH BIRTHDAY is coming up soon. woot
 

iamjason8

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Good stuff. I forgot there were good reads on smashboards that weren't about MUs and such.
 

AOB

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This thread really brings back some memories. Like the days before YouTube (try to imagine it, kids), when the best way to put match videos online was to create a separate Angelfire account for each one--and you'd still run out of bandwidth if it was popular. We had it rough back then, but we liked it!
 

KishSquared

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It's sad that Gid's last activity was in 2008. What a great guy.

Tim, your next task should be a write-up surrounding the release of Brawl. The build-up to the release, the immediate tournaments and reactions, and the resulting loss of many long-standing community members coupled by the appearance of new faces that dominate the game. Shrug, something like that, though I'm guessing you wouldn't be the best person for the job of writing up the last part.
 

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Yea, the part about no youtube blows my mind lol. Im not even that young. But still.

how u be watching yo videos wit da booty bumpin in all.
 

KishPrime

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All I can say about Brawl is that I was making posts about how it's mechanics would negatively impact tournament play within a month of its release.
 

KishPrime

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Whoops, for some reason I thought Isai won that.

Guess I'll have to revise later.
 

PEEF!

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This was an amazing read, for being a part of the newest group of smashers, (Brawl-Melee convert) this was a needed history lesson, thank you so much.
 

Djent

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This is an amazing read, and makes me wish I'd bought this game years ago. But no, I had to wait until 2010 and after I'd played Brawl casually. :urg:
 

Dark Sonic

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I remember MLG Orlando. That was my first major tournament :)

King and KillaOR (man I can't spell his name) doing teams matches against....**** I forgot who they were playing. But that's where me and my crew first heard KillaOR say the phrase

"I DON'T DIE CAUSE I DI!"


priceless.
 

HDL

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I was another one of those that didn't register right away, so I remember all of this. I couldn't help but laugh at the V-Games bit, what a commotion that caused!

EC was all about the 5 stock, no timer! :laugh:
 

BigD!!!

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i know its your tournament and everything, but wasnt fc3 in 2005?

also, who were the 3 top players missing you guys thought of, if you remember? im guessing neo for one of them, but i cant think of who the others would have been
 

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my first year getting into smash was 2006 my 2nd semester 1t year of collage, and the guy who i rromed with was already really into smash he got me into it and i remember watching the amsah comeback and being blown away by it. I also remember that year seeing a video of some pikachu almost beating a really well known falcon i asked my friend who that pika was recently b/c i couldn't remember it turns out it was axe.
The reason i bring up these two players is b/c when i recently got back into melee and became a sheik main i started watching pound 4 vids and amsah's sheik became what i want to emulate. (i forgot it was amsah on the comback video b/c his name was different in 2206 but i found the video again about a month ago and was shocked to find out it was amsah whose playing has been blowing me away for years now.
I bring up axe b/c now this pika i never heard of came in top 5 at a major tourney its just kinda weird of things are connected even through its 4 years apart.

i know i am rambling but nostalgia is pretty strong.
Also great read
 

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Lmfao I got into SWF because of Brawl...I remember when the side used to lag because of character updates. None of that compares to what you guys have witnessed.

Anyways, great read. Mad respect for the guys who started it all.
 

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Wow amazing post, thanks a bunch.

If you have time, it would be real nice to include like the "generations" of top players. You did mention it a bit, and from what I understand the first generation top players were ken, azen,and isae, and how pc chris was 2nd generation. That would be really useful, for example the years a player was his best, until he retired or whatever. There isn't any collaborative information on all of the top players, as far as I know.
 

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i dont think this is mw biased at all

the kishes invented crew battles, which was hugely influential on the community

fc3 was, without a doubt, the most intense, hyped, important smash tournament of all time, the only real contenders being tg6 and pound 3 probably

i dont know anything about snexus 2 except what is written so i dunno if that deserves it over similar tournaments in other regions (MOAST 3, GS2, something older probably as well), but the rest of the mw-centric ones really are important smash events in history.

mw4lyfe
 

KishPrime

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Yeah, I'm not seeing the Midwest bias at all. Oh well. Must be because I'm biased.

Regarding Snexus 2, TG is on there, and that was what kicked off the California Scene. M3D could probably tell you what the first major tournament on the EC was...I think he ran it, but as I recall it didn't go much past Virginia/Maryland. DA ran a few events, but I don't remember any of them expanding past New York until quite later. MOAST was run by a crew that disappeared less than two later, and Texas was all over the place as far as community development went. I think other than maybe TG, Snexus 2 was the most influential tournament that kicked off the community permanently for the largest geographical area.

But that's my bias. If only one item on the list is biased, I think I did quite well. I have one more piece to post, but I'm waiting to hear back on something first. I'm still greatly encouraging people to post their own relics up, especially you old-timers.
 

omgwtfToph

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haha I like the bit from the Groom Blue beating Ken/Isai page that goes

"For Marth players, learning to double Forward Air is a key ability. This move is performed by short-hopping and doing two Forward slashes before you hit the ground and L-Canceling so you can keep the horizontal combo moving by either performing the same technique again or starting up something new."

god people short hop double fair'd so much back then lol
 

Cursed Yoma

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nice read... wasn't around for most of this =/
even for the stuff i was around for i'm so far away from all the competetion none of it really mattered =/

<_< still lookin for a close tourney or someone to play; no way am i travelin across the country when i know i'm gonna lose..
 

Mike G

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Yeah, I'm not seeing the Midwest bias at all. Oh well. Must be because I'm biased.

Regarding Snexus 2, TG is on there, and that was what kicked off the California Scene. M3D could probably tell you what the first major tournament on the EC was...I think he ran it, but as I recall it didn't go much past Virginia/Maryland. DA ran a few events, but I don't remember any of them expanding past New York until quite later. MOAST was run by a crew that disappeared less than two later, and Texas was all over the place as far as community development went. I think other than maybe TG, Snexus 2 was the most influential tournament that kicked off the community permanently for the largest geographical area.

But that's my bias. If only one item on the list is biased, I think I did quite well. I have one more piece to post, but I'm waiting to hear back on something first. I'm still greatly encouraging people to post their own relics up, especially you old-timers.

DA also hosted S4C(smash for cash) in 2003 NYC where many top players on the EC showed up like NEO, Krazyjones and Chillin. WC had some of their players there like DSF and Isai who took 1st place. It was also the first(and only?) OOS tourney to have the legendary TO MattDeezie to grace it with his presence. lol
 
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