And ICs do so flippen great on every stage that isn't a pure neutral, right? And I don't recall your ROB giving me issues in a while...Reducing IC chainlimits is pretty much making them bottom tier. They don't have that much of a game without them, hell even with infinite chaingrabs they are still only dwindling in high somewhere. A stupid idea.
Jei, Shaya just wants to kill his chances of being ***** by the characters that he has most trouble with. Most noteworthy would be ROB, Pit and ICs. - Keep Distant Planet in the list. It's just Shaya's preference to not have it there.
And Jei, don't. I know you're not some camper.
Marth's weaknesses on those stages though? Please.
Marth can infinite on Corneria just fine, he can use his invincibility frames on his up b to literally plank on the lower area of the stage continually if he wants to. He has enough aerial range to reach campers on the individual platforms on Jungle Japes just fine. Distant planet's features that make it a good counterpick are apart of other stages but in itself just adds extreme camp abuse to the formula. Bridge of eldin is just a bad - really and I've said why, let's all just allow New Pork City as a counterpick, same ****.
But honestly, how do you comprehend "suggestions" but not "complaints" as almost exactly the same in this context. Pure complaints would be "that stage sux coz i lost on it", but naively saying my thoughts are just complaints instead of real suggestions with REAL reasons is more of an insult. I've seen you throw out one stage as a reason for someone's "suggestion" to be disregarded, and I say to you that those stages are this that for VARIOUS reasons.
CAO formulated that stage list a while ago, and one of the reasons was to compensate for certain characters (read: MK)'s ultimate dominance on 'neutrals' as to allow the other characters a chance on the "others". Melbourne seemed to grow to really like this style, and it helped them be able to take on counter pick stages that could be thrown at them and what have you. However it's not like it held S.D, Luke, Meteor Master or myself back from over all dominating.
My reasoning for the stage choices is as follows.
1. If a stage allows for an advantageous position/place for a player to situation themselves that cannot be surpassed and only results in either the other player running in to be ***** continually or just to run away themselves as to avoid all conflict, it shouldn't be a legal stage.
You could perhaps say that Dedede and ICs pretty much make stages applicable to point one. Anyway...
Distant Planet: If a player gets the position under the platform on the slope they pretty much cannot be attacked at all, and every character in the game has full advantage on any path you could choose to approach from, so what can you do? Go from the slope where EVERY character in the game has advantage from below, or go from under the platform on the other side where you're suspectable to edgehogging - that's it. WOW. And while they're in that position all you can safely do is just stand on the highest platform to the right of them and sing a song, because if you're anywhere near them they can attack you while you can't attack them.

Now all those D3 Stages aren't that bad right... Don't get grabbed! That's actually quite bloody easy on a huge stage like Eldin considering how slow that ****er is. But wow, good thing theres some common sense, because if D3s could play on that stage, the only thing that would happen is the opponent running away to avoid all grabs. Shadow moses you'd just jump up and down the platforms to never be on the same level as D3 too. The D3 rule isn't just because D3's chaingrab is -so cheap-, it's because of how bad the stalling would be if it wasn't there.
No matter how good a stage is overall, if there was a stall section, you'd wish it wasn't there right? Take Pokemon Stadium and the rocks/cliffs part, neither player can approach eachother during this time, and if you did you're asking to get owned. Luckily it's only temporary. But if a stage is PERMANENTLY LIKE THIS, then why is it legal?