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Matchup Chart Project 2015 - Calling Olimar Mains!

Zareidriel

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Hello Olimar boards,

I'm Zareidriel. Over in this thread a guy called Assassannerr made a matchup chart, and asked people to help fill it out. It seems like it would be a cool thing to have. With once glance you could have a rough idea of a matchup. It won't be perfect, but for our first go at it in 2015 we're aiming for "somewhat functional."



So here's what I'm going to do. Go to every Character Discussion board, and ask the folks there if they wouldn't mind contributing. To submit one vote, you'll have to fill out one of these:

////////////******
Bowser
Bowser Jr
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Duck Hunt
Falco
Fox
Mr. Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Dr. Mario
Marth
Lucina
Metaknight
Ness
Olimar
Palutena
Pikachu
Pit & Dark Pit
Peach
Zelda
R.O.B.
Robin
Rosalina
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Yoshi
Zero Suit Samus
Megaman
Pacman
Sonic
Ryu
Roy
Mewtwo
Lucas
Brawler
Swordfighter
Gunner
******//////////


Mark each character with a + for a match where Olimar HAS THE ADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a - for a match where Olimar HAS THE DISADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a number 0 for a match you feel is very even.

NOTE THAT I AM ONLY TAKING VOTES FROM MEMBERS WITH Olimar IN THEIR PROFILE BAR. It can be as either "Wii U Main" or "3DS Main". But if Olimar is in neither one of those slots when I count the votes on Friday, Nov 13, it won't be counted.

(Yes, for the avid democrats out there, that means you can vote for one other character as well.)

Like I said, they won't be perfect, and each board will probably be a little biased toward their own respective character. But the results should be interesting regardless.

If this thing is successful maybe we'll do a revised version in 2016.

Thanks very much for participating! We need as many votes as possible for each character so please submit a ballot!
 

Myran

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong +
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt +
Falco 0
Fox 0
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja +
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link +
Little Mac 0
Lucario 0
Luigi +
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight 0
Ness 0
Olimar 0
Palutena 0
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina +
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus +
Megaman 0
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu +
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas 0
Brawler +
Swordfighter +
Gunner +

Did I do this right?
 

Blue Banana

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Do I need to fill out something for every MU? I can't form an opinion on some of the matchups because I have little to no experience on them.
 

Zareidriel

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No problem, if you're not sure on a matchup just mark it with a 0. I'll account for that it the final results. Just try not to overuse the 0's if at all possible.
 

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt +
Falco -
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link +
Little Mac -
Lucario 0
Luigi 0
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight -
Ness 0
Olimar
Palutena 0
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin 0
Rosalina +
Samus 0
Sheik -
Shulk -
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario 0?
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman 0
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu 0?
Roy +
Mewtwo 0
Lucas 0
Brawler 0?
Swordfighter 0?
Gunner 0?

I put question marks beside some zeros because those are the matchups that I really have no idea on whose favor it goes to.
 
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Hey, I'm here from the Zelda boards - what is the reasoning for giving Olimar the favor in the matchup? Against a Zelda safely using phantom and Nayru's Love, Olimar's Side B and smashes become extremely risky - are grab, aerials, and Nolimar moves enough to make up for this?
 

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lmao pls let me fill this out sometime this week. I swear i'm the only olimar with as big of a variety of high level random characters to answer this genuinely.
 

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myran literally thinks olimar beats all these random chars that he's even or less than even with because he never plays any good players who uses these characters
 

Flawlessh

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong +
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt +
Falco 0
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch +
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link +
Little Mac 0
Lucario 0
Luigi +
Mario -
Dr. Mario +
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight -
Ness +
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina 0
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman +
Pacman +
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler 0
Swordfighter +
Gunner +

unsure on mii fighters since customs, and some of the match-ups can go either way based on the stage so i left most of those as 0
 

Myran

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myran literally thinks olimar beats all these random chars that he's even or less than even with because he never plays any good players who uses these characters
Get off your high horse. It's similar to any other character with a reflector. She can't spam it because it's laggy, and Zelda has no way to actually approach Olimar. I don't need to use Smashes to land kills when I have uthrow, bair, and uair.
 

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This is kind of hard for me but here it goes. Even though I'm not totally sure.

Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon +
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt 0
Falco 0
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja +
Ike +
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede 0
Kirby 0
Link 0
Little Mac 0
Lucario 0
Luigi +
Mario 0
Dr. Mario 0
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight -
Ness +
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit +
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus 0
Sheik ---- (I hate her xD)
Shulk 0
Toon Link -
Villager 0
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman 0
Pacman +
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler 0
Swordfighter 0
Gunner 0
 
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Zareidriel

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Voting closes tomorrow at midnight. Get those ballots in!
 

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I’d like to share my thoughts too, even if I don’t have as much experience as some of the others here.

Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt +
Falco 0
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link +
Little Mac 0
Lucario 0
Luigi +
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight -
Ness 0
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina +
Samus 0
Sheik -
Shulk 0
Toon Link 0
Villager +
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman 0
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu +
Roy +
Mewtwo 0
Lucas +
Brawler 0
Swordfighter 0
Gunner 0
 

Freezie KO

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I'm not as high level a player as Angbad or Myran, so I shouldn't be weighted as much, but at my mid-level experience:

Bowser +
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt +
Falco -
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby 0
Link 0
Little Mac -
Lucario +
Luigi +
Mario -
Dr. Mario -
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight -
Ness 0
Olimar 0
Palutena 0
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach -
Zelda 0
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus 0
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link -
Villager +
Wario -
Wii Fit Trainer 0
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman -
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu -
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler ?
Swordfighter ?
Gunner ?
 
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Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon ++++
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt +
Falco -
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch +
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike +
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby -
Link 0
Little Mac +
Lucario ?
Luigi 0
Mario -
Dr. Mario -
Marth 0
Lucina 0
Metaknight -
Ness -
Olimar lol do these matchups exist?
Palutena ?
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit +
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin 0
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -----
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer 0
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman 0
Pacman ?
Sonic -
Ryu -
Roy -
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler ?
Swordfighter ?
Gunner ?
 

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt 0
Falco 0
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link +
Little Mac +
Lucario 0
Luigi 0
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight -
Ness +
Olimar 0
Palutena 0
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin 0
Rosalina +
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk 0
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario -
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman 0
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu +
Roy 0
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler -
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
 

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////////////******
Bowser +
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon --
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt +
Falco 0
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja +
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby 0/+
Link +
Little Mac -
Lucario 0
Luigi 0
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth 0
Lucina 0
Metaknight -
Ness 0
Olimar 0
Palutena 0
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit +
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina +
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk -
Toon Link 0
Villager +
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer 0
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman +
Pacman +
Sonic 0
Ryu 0
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas 0
Brawler +
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
******//////////
 

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If it's not too late ~

Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt +
Falco 0
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff 0
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link +
Little Mac -
Lucario 0
Luigi +
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight -
Ness 0
Olimar 0
Palutena 0
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit +
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina +
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk -
Toon Link 0
Villager +
Wario -
Wii Fit Trainer 0
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman +
Pacman +
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy 0
Mewtwo +
Lucas 0
Brawler +
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
 

Cacts

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Hello Olimar boards,

I'm Zareidriel. Over in this thread a guy called Assassannerr made a matchup chart, and asked people to help fill it out. It seems like it would be a cool thing to have. With once glance you could have a rough idea of a matchup. It won't be perfect, but for our first go at it in 2015 we're aiming for "somewhat functional."



So here's what I'm going to do. Go to every Character Discussion board, and ask the folks there if they wouldn't mind contributing. To submit one vote, you'll have to fill out one of these:

////////////******
Bowser
Bowser Jr
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Duck Hunt
Falco
Fox
Mr. Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Dr. Mario
Marth
Lucina
Metaknight
Ness
Olimar
Palutena
Pikachu
Pit & Dark Pit
Peach
Zelda
R.O.B.
Robin
Rosalina
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Yoshi
Zero Suit Samus
Megaman
Pacman
Sonic
Ryu
Roy
Mewtwo
Lucas
Brawler
Swordfighter
Gunner
******//////////


Mark each character with a + for a match where Olimar HAS THE ADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a - for a match where Olimar HAS THE DISADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a number 0 for a match you feel is very even.

NOTE THAT I AM ONLY TAKING VOTES FROM MEMBERS WITH Olimar IN THEIR PROFILE BAR. It can be as either "Wii U Main" or "3DS Main". But if Olimar is in neither one of those slots when I count the votes on Friday, Nov 13, it won't be counted.

(Yes, for the avid democrats out there, that means you can vote for one other character as well.)

Like I said, they won't be perfect, and each board will probably be a little biased toward their own respective character. But the results should be interesting regardless.

If this thing is successful maybe we'll do a revised version in 2016.

Thanks very much for participating! We need as many votes as possible for each character so please submit a ballot!
This ever happening?
 

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I'm surprised basically everyone who voted said sheik was a disadvantage? I guess I just havent faced a good sheik? Though I personally haven't ran into any major problems with one (I usually just tend to roll spam on them and throw pikmin and run away). For me I felt it's about even....

edit: to elaborate when I say roll, I mean I've found they can fall pray to getting down smashed from behind , I usually go for down smash on this one because it can come out quickly from both sides in case you happen to misjudge their movement. Also sometimes if I'm lucky I'll get a player who's easily frustrated by having pikmin on them, so I'll try to exploit that if I can. Their dash attack can be easy to punish if you roll behind them.
 
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Flawlessh

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I'm surprised basically everyone who voted said sheik was a disadvantage? I guess I just havent faced a good sheik? Though I personally haven't ran into any major problems with one (I usually just tend to roll spam on them and throw pikmin and run away). For me I felt it's about even....
if you think olimar beats sheik your out of your mind.
Sheik is our hardest matchup by far and sheik has NO NEGATIVE MATCHUPS.
and "spamming roll" never works against any competent player.

I fell for this bait.
 

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if you think olimar beats sheik your out of your mind.
Sheik is our hardest matchup by far and sheik has NO NEGATIVE MATCHUPS.
and "spamming roll" never works against any competent player.

I fell for this bait.
I never said it was a positive match up for Olimar, but I think it's similar to captain falcon in the respect that Sheik needs to get close to actually do damage
 

Mothman

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I never said it was a positive match up for Olimar, but I think it's similar to captain falcon in the respect that Sheik needs to get close to actually do damage
edit: you know what forget what I said, I probably haven't faced a good sheik yet
 

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edit: you know what forget what I said, I probably haven't faced a good sheik yet
I'm pretty sure you haven't, but I think Flawlessh Flawlessh didn't meant to be rude neither (and I think he wasn't), just don't take it personally.

It's ok, you will fight against a good Sheik at some point but Mothman Mothman you are free to post your opinion as wel, even when everyone thinks different.

:)
 

The Abusive Botanist

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Hey, I'm here from the Zelda boards - what is the reasoning for giving Olimar the favor in the matchup? Against a Zelda safely using phantom and Nayru's Love, Olimar's Side B and smashes become extremely risky - are grab, aerials, and Nolimar moves enough to make up for this?
Teleports are bit slow and punishable, Nayru's Love is good for countering smash attacks, but is predictable, and the Phantom does not block side-b. The rest of Zeldas moves are about as good as Olimars at close range.

This comes from somebody who shields and dodges a lot due to an inhuman reaction speed, but whatever.
 

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr -
Captain Falcon +
Charizard 0
Diddy Kong +
Donkey Kong -
Duck Hunt 0 but a little more in Duck Hunts favor
Falco -
Fox +
Mr. Game & Watch +
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0 but i personally don't like it
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0 projectiles are hard to deal with
Little Mac 0 Comboed easily but easy to gimp mac with old so
Lucario 0
Luigi 0
Mario -
Dr. Mario -
Marth 0
Lucina +
Metaknight 0
Ness -
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu +
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. +
Robin +
Rosalina +
Seamus - one of the worst matches in my opinion
Sheik 0 depending own how campy you are, this could be in your favor!
Shulk -
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi - Maybe the worst of all
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman +
Pacman -
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy +
Mewtwo 0
Lucas -
Brawler -
Swordfighter +
Gunner -



Hope this helped and this is just my personal opinion from playing!
 
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