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Official Mario Enigma Machine [1.1.1] Patch Notes

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No changes to Lucas.

Lucina Shield Breaker Shield damage decreased from 30 to 25. (Will check marth soon...) No other changes.

Wow, Luigi has a ton of changes. Skipping.

Nothing on Mario, but Doc has a few.
 
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Since this hasn't been said yet any changes on wario? I'm almost ready to test him. Imma go through things like dash attack SP hitting airborne targets and his kill options. If anyone already did some testing lemme know.

Luigi dthrow nerfed is welcomed
 

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Hm. I take back what I said. I don't know the specifics, but his customs got changed. HBJ + Upper Cutter goes higher than Balloon Trip, and for some reason HB has a hilt hitbox now that does 18%.

EDIT: It got a frame data related buff, too. F-Throw > HB is a true combo now.
 
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Unless the low tiers got buffed heavily to compensate for Luigi's D throw [He wasn't even OP] and Sheik got nerfed, I think I'm taking a break from Smash 4. Yes I'm salty. I need water.
Luigi kind of completely deserved those nerfs. He's literally right below the top 5, and he's super easy to play effectively.
 

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Doc down-b custom 3 buffed from 8% to 10% or 12% depending on the hitbox; the 12% hitbox is also bigger and has knockback adjustments.

No other doc changes.

Marth also had shield breaker nerfed from 30 shield damage bonus to 25. No other changes.
 
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LUIGIS DOWNTHROW IS COMPLETE GARBO! :(

You can't even do double fair anymore. Back to the B-Tier you go Luigi, my dear friend.
 

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LUIGIS DOWNTHROW IS COMPLETE GARBO! :(

You can't even do double fair anymore. Back to the B-Tier you go Luigi, my dear friend.
I knew something was up after I noticed Peach flying high at 170%...

Luigi wasn't even THAT OP. His traction is poor and now he hasn't really got much reliable kill setups.
 

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I literally cannot tell from the time I spent on it that SB does less shield damage. And that means the throw stuff I reported are placebo too. I need to go to bed. And I'll be going to bed pissed because a character that needs FIXES (not buffs) wasn't fixed... only nerfed.
 

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Meta knight custom up-b 3 final hitbox is increased in size from 7.0 to 7.2 and lasts 2 frames longer. No other changes.
 

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Lucina shield breaker nerfed. I am going to start a riot now. No, a strike. And a miiverse revolution.
 
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Not when he had no national results to speak of and Sheik walks away untouched. It would have been more forgiving if the actual better characters [Sheik, ZSS, Rosalina] got nerfed with it but so far apparently they weren't. That's not ok.
Just because a character doesn't get national results doesn't mean they don't deserve nerfs. Fox's jab cancel was bad for the game, and I hated to see it go, but it had to. Same story for Luigi's freeest of free kill confirmed combos.
I'm all for Shiek and the other top tiers getting nerfed though, so don't get me wrong there.
 

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Unless the low tiers got buffed heavily to compensate for Luigi's D throw [He wasn't even OP] and Sheik got nerfed, I think I'm taking a break from Smash 4. Yes I'm salty. I need water.
He honestly doesn't feel that much different, or at least I'm not stressing over the loss of our Hoo Haa, it's the Down-throw Up-B people need to be worried about now.
 

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Meta Knight's up air has more knockback can anyone else confirm
 

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Start up on Mega Man's Dair feels faster. I cannot confirm, but seems like by 8-10-ish frames
 

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The customs meta sure is looking good.
 

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You're probably on a floaty character like Zelda. Try to do it on Ryu. Nothing.
Been doing it on ganon, a character who my friend has mained since 3ds alongside me maining Luigi since then, so I'd notice if I couldn't do something anymore, and EVERYTHING is still there except the cyclone kill.
 

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Feels like kirbys knockback on back air was buffed. Plz confirm
 

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No changes to Villager or Ness, except for a change to Ness's PK Fire 3. It now does 2% on hit and 9% on trigger, from 1%/8%. The trigger hitbox hits sooner, and is smaller but closer.
 

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To me, it seems like the community heavily exaggerates the effect of these buffs and nerfs, and seems to think top tier means as much as it did in Brawl. I mean, Sheik isn't that broken, she has flaws, it's just hard to fight her a lot of times. Yet, I don't see noobs picking her up and automatically winning. Likewise, Luigi can't be that much worse for wear...

Thinkaman, anything on Shulk, perchance? :)
 

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To me, it seems like the community heavily exaggerates the effect of these buffs and nerfs, and seems to think top tier means as much as it did in Brawl. I mean, Sheik isn't that broken, she has flaws, it's just hard to fight her a lot of times. Yet, I don't see noobs picking her up and automatically winning. Likewise, Luigi can't be that much worse for wear...

Thinkaman, anything on Shulk, perchance? :)
Luigi does not feel much better or worse in the slightest. All this is going to do is have the same effect the first Diddy patch had, fish out the people who just play him for the easy kill set-up, but he's still very viable.
 
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