Real Name No Gimmicks
- Feb 14, 2007
Dont forget that Fair that lets him play mid stage at least somewhat well.
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Actually I still don't get why we want to do that, probably I just missed something?
Mostly because from the looks of it we're a long time out from actually completing the tier list. The placebo idea is mostly a face saving thing to make up for the fact that we're already 2 years out from the last list and not really even certain of what to do with the list now.
Think of it as the rough draft list we'll be submitting. There's not anything hugely wrong with it but there are things that can be fixed. We give the Melee community this one to tide them over and generate more discussion while we fix the few kinks left in this list and make it a true Tier List.
Even though some people don't agree with using a match-up chart as part of the tier list decision I still think it would be a good thing to do even if we don't need/use it.I am entirely in favor of creating a match-up chart and making a clear definition about how important each factor is for a characters placing within the tier list (like 1/3 match-ups 1/3 results 1/3 character potential for example).
We also should consider redoing the whole viable/non-viable vote because a) we have new members (and a few more should get added soon) and b) the general opinion on some characters (namely Mario and Pikachu) might have changed due to recent events/results.
If we're doing everything scrupulously we might also decide which ruleset we're considering for the MU chart (standard MBR ruleset I guess?), as we all know stages/counterpicks are not neglectable for determining the MU ratio.
Altogether it looks like we've got plenty of things to do until we can actually start voting on the tier list, let alone finish it. It should go something like this:
(1. Decide which ruleset we're going to use)
2. Voting on viable/non-viable
3. Create a MU chart using the characters voted as viable
4. Make a clear definition of standards
finally we can actually vote on the upper part and decide what we're going to do with the lower part of the list.
We also might want to apply the results of the voting against a potentially calculated number from the MU chart as well as the findings of the character ranking topic (aka results).
Didn't we already knew that before we posted it?Um.
What are we doing with the current list I posted? There's mad debate over it.
working fine, isn't it?
And that's true.Slhoka said he's on it. =/
American outsourcing... to europe now? Awww yeah; even in smashit takes two Europeans
to make the American tier list
thanks so much you two.