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okay, but just to interject, the viable characters are viable because a MU chart affects them the least? if you know what you're getting into, I have confidence in your judgment and I say go for it.That's why we would only create a MU chart for viable characters, meaning we only consider those match-ups that actually matter.
Also the match-up chart would only be a part of the tier list project (like results would be another part) not the basis.
ehhh I think I am now ^_^Mango will quit soon, he's playing Mario FFS he obviously doesnt care any more. HBox will continue to win for a while but he's no where near Mango's level, he'll start losing eventually. More than likely it will be someone like PP who ends up dominating in force and suddenly Falco will be the best character in the game. God we suck as a community.
That would mean you should be able to defeat everyone with many characters. =Pehhh I think I am now ^_^
but yeah we'll see what the future holds
Yeah, no pressure or anything.....If/When PP starts winning everything
I doubt that the end results would stray from the usual sort of lists that we see all the time since I do think the characters' placements in those lists already correlates decently well with how good their match-ups are.I guess as to what I feel the tier list should represent... simply what you said, with an emphasis on the metagame as it is now. If we're able to successfully discuss matchups in light of the current metagame, then that could certainly be sufficient. It's just that I am worried a matchup chart might create a skewed view of how smash looks today, because of underrepresentation etc.
I should hope they don't stray too far, i'm just not particularly certain.Releasing one tier list now and then releasing another one in the not-too-distant future seems like an odd thing to do, although I'm not necessarily opposed to it.
I doubt that the end results would stray from the usual sort of lists that we see all the time since I do think the characters' placements in those lists already correlates decently well with how good their match-ups are.
Thanks for the add to the backroom, firstly.
I posted a slightly modified version of KibryKaze's tier list in the Melee Discussion thread, and it is recieving good praise.
The issue is, there's quite a few slashes ("/") that indicate ties and so forth.
I believe our job at this point should be to take the tier list and, as best we can, settle the disputes. If need be, the slashes can stay, signifying the constant evolution of the metagame.
No he went Cpt.Falcon also.. however anyone who knows the matchup well can faceroll both these characters anyway. Like Eggz! lol.Didn't Mango go straight mario, like no CPing or anything? The CPing may be the difference.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that was Falcon.I dont remember who said it but I agree with the statement: "Mario is the character that made Mango start losing" we really should remember that.