Zero Suit Violet
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Okay! So I decided to try my hand on making a roster of my own! For this roster, I will not try to replace the roster of Ultimate, because well ... it's already here, I much prefer working on the roster of Ultimate as a base, and then go for the rest, I won't go for the "Everyone is Here !" gimmick again, that would be lazy, and will I do know I will make people unhappy with some cuts ... I hope to bring add and cuts that are justified to you guys, all of that being said, let's begin !
The Cuts
So let's start off with the hard stuff, the cuts, I will try to explain why I cut each character every time I do so, as to give explaination to my reasoning
Bowser Jr. ; Bowser Jr. while being a nice character, is, in my opinion, a character we can also let go, he isn't that important in the recent instanlement of the series (Not here in the last 2 Mario 3d, only here in the final boss battle in the last 2d one), and the character himself isn't that well made in reguard of what he can do, since they focused on the Koopalings aspect ... they gave him a moveset that could fit every of them, which in return, strapped his uniqueness away from him, maybe in a later game, he could return with brand new ability ! We'll see what the future of Mario game have for us
Doctor Mario : I like the guy, but his whole gimmick is being an heavier Mario, I do not think this deserve his own slot, instead he get the Alph treatement, a unique skin for Mario, a lot of work was done in this character it's true, but I think he isn't that valuable in the long term
Toon Link : Okay ... this one hurt a lot personally, because Toon Link was my main since Brawl, but ... as it is, I cannot keep 3 Links like they did, it just make a bad representation of the series, and while in any other cases, I would have cutted Young Link, which will probably not return later, the idea I had to make a choice, and well, I think that seing what I will do with YLink, if I did the opposite, many people would have been against it, so you wiil be missed TLink, but it is a needed departure
Falco : Okay, I know I'm gonna get some heat of that, but I feel like representing this series with 3 times the same moveset, even altered as it is for those 3, is something kinda bad, this series need more variety, and that's why I had to cut one of the 3, of course I couldn't cut Fox, I wouldn't cut Wolf either because having a vilain is a good thing, so Falco was the obvious choice ... I know you will be missed by a lot of people, but like TLink, it's needed
Pichu : It seem like I'm hating on Semi Clones, but I am just trying to cut some similarity, to add more diversity, Pichu was nice to see back in Ultimate, but I don't think he is needed for the sequel, was either him or Mewtwo, and well, I think people like Mewtwo more than him
Lucas : Okay this one also hurt as a big Mother fan, but it is needed for what I want to do, and a series like Mother cannot justify a newcommer without a cut, due to not being in the spotlight anymore, Ness is protected by the OG status, so Lucas have to go, I promise you guys won't be dissapointed with what I have in mind, fellow Mother 3 fans
Roy : To many FE, to many Swordman, two of the most heared complaints I hear, and that I agree with, by cutting Roy, I cut one of the character at the source of this problem, Fire Boy have to go I fear, you will stay our boy forever, but a cut is needed for now
Ike : I'm gonna get a lot of flames off this one .. but yes, I am cutting Ike, in the goal of representing this series better, I have to make some hard choices, and Ike, will really liked, is not the most unique character of this series in Smash, and as such, cutting him was needed to allow a better representation
I will also not add again the content of the Fighter Pass, if the popularity is enough, a returning dlc can be made for those
Rework
Some cuts have been made, but more are technicly made too, some of the characters have a moveset that does not quite fit their character nowdays, and need an heavy rework, which is why I didn't include them in the cuts, but in this new section of rework, I will count every characters here, and then why they are being reworked on, and how
Young Link : This, is what I was talking about earlier in the cut section, one of the Link is getting a total rework to suit their games better, and well, Young Link was always the most popular in this case, representing the Majora's Mask entry of the series, Young Link is now capable to switch between Deku, Goron and Zora for his different attacks, as well as pulling the powerful Fierce Deity mask for his Final Smash, this will give this Link a whole new light, and will give the fans of MM what they wanted for a long time
Ganondorf : This one was asked for as long as I can remember ... a unique Ganondorf, and not a simple clone of Captain Falcon, for this one, we'll have an interesting mix of an heavy fighter, with a float and powerful attacks, using his different magic for his specials, his Sword for his Smash attacks, and a combination of the two for his grab, tilt etc ... The King of Evil is ready to take on Smash, for real this time
Sheik : Impa replace her, same character and moveset, but the base skin is Impa, Sheik simply become a costume, Impa is more important to put in than Sheik, and Sheik moveset always fitted Impa better than Sheik
Samus : Technically had it's place into cut, but it's kinda difficult to choose which one make more sense, Zero Suit Samus is now part of Samus again, being canonly a Depowered Samus, I think it make sense that it stay that way, she will be a weaker version of her Smash Ultimate self, but can still pack a punch while waiting for her armor to return, I feel like this was also needed for more variety, two Samuses is kinda a waste on this roster when we have other more diversify characters to add
Dark Samus : Getting out of the clone state was a given for this character that was more unique as an AT than as a Playable fighter ... The titular antagonist of the Metroid Series is getting some recognition this time around, using her powerful Phazon attacks, and a whole arsenal of moves that Smash Samus can't put off, people expecting to fight Samus when facing her, risk to be surprised, Float, Beams, Phazon pillar, this fighter is unpredictable in many ways
Lucina : So not asked often to be declonned, but I personally think it's a given seing how unique her fighting style actually is in different cutscene in Awakening, as well as getting out of the Swordman only trope, Lucina now fight way differently, using whole new Sword Moves, as well as switching occasionaly with a Bow, and a Spear for some of her attacks, more polyvalent, less Swordwoman, Chrom also switch from Roy echo, to Lucina echo
Newcommer !
Now the part most people have been waiting for, we are going for the newcommers next ! As per usual, I will first explain why I put them here, and a bit of what they are capable off in battle
Fawful : We lost one Mario characters that played with a lot of gimmicky gadget when he should never have, which is why in return, I introduce a character with the same gadget gimmick, exepct it suit the character, I feel like as it is, the main cast of Mario is well represented, and exploring the cast of the alternate universe may be a good idea instead of staying in the main one only, which is why I introduce one of the most important and well liked vilain of the M&L series first !
Dimentio : It was difficult to put a M&L character, without putting a Paper Mario's one as well, it was difficult to find which one as the cast change every day, so I had to go by the popularity to add Dimentio, the reality warper Jester, gimmicky and really powerful, but being made of Paper also make him REALLY light, Dimentio would be the definition of a Glass Canon
E. Gaad : After his 3rd instalement, I think that Luigi's Mansion deserved it's first rep into the game, it was difficult to choose between King Boo and him, but I ultimatly decided on the professor due to the fact I added 2 Mario vilains in already, using all sorts of far fetched invention, this crazy scientist aim to surprise on the battlefield ! Don't understimate him, or you will soon find yourself trapped in a painting !
Tetra : A new character for the Zelda series is something asked since a while, as much as I wanted to go for Midna on personal Bias, let's not let that cloud my judgement, let's go with the recuring characters first, and Tetra is one, being present in 3 games not counting the spin off, as well as being important in the story of a 4th, she is one of the most recuring character of the series, she is also representing one timeline that isn't represented anymore by the dissaperance of Toon Link (that is why I didn't put Skull Kid instead of her, MM is already repped by YLink), armed with her Wave Gun, Light Arrows, and Saber, this Pirate girl is ready to sail into this new world of Smash !
Sylux : Hinted since Metroid Prime 3 to be the main vilain of the upcomming Prime 4, it make sense to add him into the game, the mysterious Hunter join the fight, armed with his Shock Coil and his unyielding rage for the federation, he will show no mercy in the battlefield, his weapon is capable of self healing, making him an all out offensive character, the more you hit, the less you're hurt, no holding back when picking him
Bandana Dee : Popular character of his series, as well as Japan most liked choices for Smash, this Brave Waddle Dee is joining the fight, with him in, the quartet of Dreamland heroes is finally complete, as well as finally getting some recognition for the Modern side of the Kirby series,coming with his Spear, Umbrella as well as a Beam Rod, do not understimate him, he's not just a pretty face !
Magolor : After getting ignored for 2 games, I feel like the Kirby series can get, like in Brawl, two newcommer at once, I may be acused of bias here, but I'm trying to stay as objective as I can be, I do think it's justified for this popular series to get a little bit more recognition, adding a vilain was needed after completing the protagonist quartet, and I couldn't ask Marx even though he is more popular, due to him fitting a lot more as a boss, than as playable in my opinion, so Magolor shows up instead, popular, recurent enough, and having a lot of potential with his Dimension warping powers, the CROWNED King of Another Dimension join the fight !
Krystal : So, I am not a big fan of the Star Fox series, so I cannot justify it as much as I could for others, but from what I saw and heard, Krystal is one of the most recognisable member of the Star Fox, while having widely different weapons at her disposable, Staff, Snipers, a whole new playstyle for this series is well welcomed here
Dusknoir : Adding Pokemons is always an a struggle due to how many they are, and how many are justified to get in, for this one, I choosed Dusknoir on two criteria, he is from a generation not yet to be represented, the 3rd generation, as well as representing a sub series of Pokemon, Mystery Dungeon, giving us a true vilain for the Pokemon series, Dusknoir would be an interesting and weird fighter, is Ghost type introduce a lot of interesting gimmick, and being the commander of Dialga army, you can be sure he won't fight fair and square, it will never truly be 1v1 against him, his Sableye are always waiting in the shadows
xxxx of Gen 8 : There have been since Brawl, a slot reserved to the latest generation of pokemon, it's something that I'm not willing to remove, as it will probably happen again next time anyway
Masked Man : Mother fans, this is for you, by removing Lucas, I allowed a place for a vilain of the Mother series instead, we have the apperance of the Masked Man, a heavely weaponised Cyborg with a lot of trick under his sleeves, litteraly, Porky would also have been a choice, but I settled on Masked Man instead for the representation of more than one game of this series
Hector : Replacing Roy, we get a Lord from the same era as him, using an entirely new weapon for this series, no more FE Swordman only, we now get one of the most popular Lord of all time, that do not use a Sword, instead he use a powerful Axe, really Heavy character, but packing a punch with every attacks, his Axe is a powerful, long ranged weapon
Micaiah : Once again, replacing a cutted character, with another from the same era, we get our first full blown mage of the series, Micaiah, using powerful tomes and her healing power to her advantage, she is a powerful oponent on long ranged battle, with her in, we have now Sword, Axe, Spear, Tome and Bow represented, the only missing weapon is Dagger, but it will do for now
DJ Octavio : Splatoon is one of Nintendo most recent IP, and one of the most succesful one too, that's why I do think it deserve a second rep for the next game, most people would bet on Octoling for the next Splatoon rep, I would personally bet on the antagonist of the series, the powerful DJ Octavio, in his Heavy mechas, this Music addict Octopus would be a very powerful character, that would trade of Speed and Heavyness, for Power and Range, long range fist and weapons, this character will be hard to take down if he can take a bit of range on you
Lip : In every instalement, we get a new retro/"Who ?" character, first we had Ice Climbers and Mr Game and Watch, then ROB, then Duck Hunt, after all those NES classic (apart G&W obviously); I think it's time to move on to the Super Nes, with a character that was represented in Smash since almost the beginning, since Melee her signature Flower was there, I think it's now time for the protagonist of Panel de Pon to come pick her weapon up, in a Smash !
I am now moving to an unknown teritory, the 3rd parties, excuse me if I do some error in judgement in who to add or not in there, I have less knowledge on them, I have to admit that much
Bomberman : I saw him being asked around since a while, and he is a classic character, that have been on Nintendo console since the beginning, with such a big history with Nintendo, I think it's a given to move this Assist Trophy to playable, using different kind of Bombs and boost of his own adventure, Bomberman will change the battlefield into a litteral Minefield ! Careful where you step !
Crash : Seem to be one of the popular mascot still not added in Smash that have an history with the Nintendo, recently with the N Sane trilogy, and before with some of his games coming to various Nintendo console, I think Crash earned his place into Smash
Echo Fighters
And now that we are done with the unique newcommer, let's get on with the Echo Figters, not a lot of them this time around, but they are still there
Dixie Kong : Beloved character of her series, she have the exact same body type as Diddy, allowing her to be his echo fighters, replacing her Up B with a grappler kind of think like Ivysaur, but with her hair, as well as making her tilts different hit, we have a Ken level echo fighter for this requested fighter !
Lucas : Lucas is not totally erased from the game, as I know it would be sad to get his nemesis in, while being unable to recreate his fight with him, but he is reduced to an echo fighter, which mean his move act the exact same as Ness, but his PK Flash still keep his freezing propreties
Medusa : Palutena get her nemesis as her echo fighter this time, focusing on more Aggresive abilities, Medusa trade off the LIGHTness of Palutena, for the DARKness of her moves, not that much of a difference because she is stil a echo fighter, but it does show like Dark Pit is to Pit
Shadow : Was pretty much a given, Shadow get to be the echo fighter of Sonic this time around, don't know why it didn't happen this time as a matter of fact ...
Well that is all ! Hope you will enjoy this roster, I'm not pretensious enough to say that I pleased everyone with it, but I did try my best to do so, to keep demands and requests in, and to add some logical choices to the roster, feel free to post your feedbacks in this thead ! I'll be sure to respond to any questions !
The Cuts
So let's start off with the hard stuff, the cuts, I will try to explain why I cut each character every time I do so, as to give explaination to my reasoning
Bowser Jr. ; Bowser Jr. while being a nice character, is, in my opinion, a character we can also let go, he isn't that important in the recent instanlement of the series (Not here in the last 2 Mario 3d, only here in the final boss battle in the last 2d one), and the character himself isn't that well made in reguard of what he can do, since they focused on the Koopalings aspect ... they gave him a moveset that could fit every of them, which in return, strapped his uniqueness away from him, maybe in a later game, he could return with brand new ability ! We'll see what the future of Mario game have for us
Doctor Mario : I like the guy, but his whole gimmick is being an heavier Mario, I do not think this deserve his own slot, instead he get the Alph treatement, a unique skin for Mario, a lot of work was done in this character it's true, but I think he isn't that valuable in the long term
Toon Link : Okay ... this one hurt a lot personally, because Toon Link was my main since Brawl, but ... as it is, I cannot keep 3 Links like they did, it just make a bad representation of the series, and while in any other cases, I would have cutted Young Link, which will probably not return later, the idea I had to make a choice, and well, I think that seing what I will do with YLink, if I did the opposite, many people would have been against it, so you wiil be missed TLink, but it is a needed departure
Falco : Okay, I know I'm gonna get some heat of that, but I feel like representing this series with 3 times the same moveset, even altered as it is for those 3, is something kinda bad, this series need more variety, and that's why I had to cut one of the 3, of course I couldn't cut Fox, I wouldn't cut Wolf either because having a vilain is a good thing, so Falco was the obvious choice ... I know you will be missed by a lot of people, but like TLink, it's needed
Pichu : It seem like I'm hating on Semi Clones, but I am just trying to cut some similarity, to add more diversity, Pichu was nice to see back in Ultimate, but I don't think he is needed for the sequel, was either him or Mewtwo, and well, I think people like Mewtwo more than him
Lucas : Okay this one also hurt as a big Mother fan, but it is needed for what I want to do, and a series like Mother cannot justify a newcommer without a cut, due to not being in the spotlight anymore, Ness is protected by the OG status, so Lucas have to go, I promise you guys won't be dissapointed with what I have in mind, fellow Mother 3 fans
Roy : To many FE, to many Swordman, two of the most heared complaints I hear, and that I agree with, by cutting Roy, I cut one of the character at the source of this problem, Fire Boy have to go I fear, you will stay our boy forever, but a cut is needed for now
Ike : I'm gonna get a lot of flames off this one .. but yes, I am cutting Ike, in the goal of representing this series better, I have to make some hard choices, and Ike, will really liked, is not the most unique character of this series in Smash, and as such, cutting him was needed to allow a better representation
I will also not add again the content of the Fighter Pass, if the popularity is enough, a returning dlc can be made for those
Rework
Some cuts have been made, but more are technicly made too, some of the characters have a moveset that does not quite fit their character nowdays, and need an heavy rework, which is why I didn't include them in the cuts, but in this new section of rework, I will count every characters here, and then why they are being reworked on, and how
Young Link : This, is what I was talking about earlier in the cut section, one of the Link is getting a total rework to suit their games better, and well, Young Link was always the most popular in this case, representing the Majora's Mask entry of the series, Young Link is now capable to switch between Deku, Goron and Zora for his different attacks, as well as pulling the powerful Fierce Deity mask for his Final Smash, this will give this Link a whole new light, and will give the fans of MM what they wanted for a long time
Ganondorf : This one was asked for as long as I can remember ... a unique Ganondorf, and not a simple clone of Captain Falcon, for this one, we'll have an interesting mix of an heavy fighter, with a float and powerful attacks, using his different magic for his specials, his Sword for his Smash attacks, and a combination of the two for his grab, tilt etc ... The King of Evil is ready to take on Smash, for real this time
Sheik : Impa replace her, same character and moveset, but the base skin is Impa, Sheik simply become a costume, Impa is more important to put in than Sheik, and Sheik moveset always fitted Impa better than Sheik
Samus : Technically had it's place into cut, but it's kinda difficult to choose which one make more sense, Zero Suit Samus is now part of Samus again, being canonly a Depowered Samus, I think it make sense that it stay that way, she will be a weaker version of her Smash Ultimate self, but can still pack a punch while waiting for her armor to return, I feel like this was also needed for more variety, two Samuses is kinda a waste on this roster when we have other more diversify characters to add
Dark Samus : Getting out of the clone state was a given for this character that was more unique as an AT than as a Playable fighter ... The titular antagonist of the Metroid Series is getting some recognition this time around, using her powerful Phazon attacks, and a whole arsenal of moves that Smash Samus can't put off, people expecting to fight Samus when facing her, risk to be surprised, Float, Beams, Phazon pillar, this fighter is unpredictable in many ways
Lucina : So not asked often to be declonned, but I personally think it's a given seing how unique her fighting style actually is in different cutscene in Awakening, as well as getting out of the Swordman only trope, Lucina now fight way differently, using whole new Sword Moves, as well as switching occasionaly with a Bow, and a Spear for some of her attacks, more polyvalent, less Swordwoman, Chrom also switch from Roy echo, to Lucina echo
Newcommer !
Now the part most people have been waiting for, we are going for the newcommers next ! As per usual, I will first explain why I put them here, and a bit of what they are capable off in battle
Fawful : We lost one Mario characters that played with a lot of gimmicky gadget when he should never have, which is why in return, I introduce a character with the same gadget gimmick, exepct it suit the character, I feel like as it is, the main cast of Mario is well represented, and exploring the cast of the alternate universe may be a good idea instead of staying in the main one only, which is why I introduce one of the most important and well liked vilain of the M&L series first !
Dimentio : It was difficult to put a M&L character, without putting a Paper Mario's one as well, it was difficult to find which one as the cast change every day, so I had to go by the popularity to add Dimentio, the reality warper Jester, gimmicky and really powerful, but being made of Paper also make him REALLY light, Dimentio would be the definition of a Glass Canon
E. Gaad : After his 3rd instalement, I think that Luigi's Mansion deserved it's first rep into the game, it was difficult to choose between King Boo and him, but I ultimatly decided on the professor due to the fact I added 2 Mario vilains in already, using all sorts of far fetched invention, this crazy scientist aim to surprise on the battlefield ! Don't understimate him, or you will soon find yourself trapped in a painting !
Tetra : A new character for the Zelda series is something asked since a while, as much as I wanted to go for Midna on personal Bias, let's not let that cloud my judgement, let's go with the recuring characters first, and Tetra is one, being present in 3 games not counting the spin off, as well as being important in the story of a 4th, she is one of the most recuring character of the series, she is also representing one timeline that isn't represented anymore by the dissaperance of Toon Link (that is why I didn't put Skull Kid instead of her, MM is already repped by YLink), armed with her Wave Gun, Light Arrows, and Saber, this Pirate girl is ready to sail into this new world of Smash !
Sylux : Hinted since Metroid Prime 3 to be the main vilain of the upcomming Prime 4, it make sense to add him into the game, the mysterious Hunter join the fight, armed with his Shock Coil and his unyielding rage for the federation, he will show no mercy in the battlefield, his weapon is capable of self healing, making him an all out offensive character, the more you hit, the less you're hurt, no holding back when picking him
Bandana Dee : Popular character of his series, as well as Japan most liked choices for Smash, this Brave Waddle Dee is joining the fight, with him in, the quartet of Dreamland heroes is finally complete, as well as finally getting some recognition for the Modern side of the Kirby series,coming with his Spear, Umbrella as well as a Beam Rod, do not understimate him, he's not just a pretty face !
Magolor : After getting ignored for 2 games, I feel like the Kirby series can get, like in Brawl, two newcommer at once, I may be acused of bias here, but I'm trying to stay as objective as I can be, I do think it's justified for this popular series to get a little bit more recognition, adding a vilain was needed after completing the protagonist quartet, and I couldn't ask Marx even though he is more popular, due to him fitting a lot more as a boss, than as playable in my opinion, so Magolor shows up instead, popular, recurent enough, and having a lot of potential with his Dimension warping powers, the CROWNED King of Another Dimension join the fight !
Krystal : So, I am not a big fan of the Star Fox series, so I cannot justify it as much as I could for others, but from what I saw and heard, Krystal is one of the most recognisable member of the Star Fox, while having widely different weapons at her disposable, Staff, Snipers, a whole new playstyle for this series is well welcomed here
Dusknoir : Adding Pokemons is always an a struggle due to how many they are, and how many are justified to get in, for this one, I choosed Dusknoir on two criteria, he is from a generation not yet to be represented, the 3rd generation, as well as representing a sub series of Pokemon, Mystery Dungeon, giving us a true vilain for the Pokemon series, Dusknoir would be an interesting and weird fighter, is Ghost type introduce a lot of interesting gimmick, and being the commander of Dialga army, you can be sure he won't fight fair and square, it will never truly be 1v1 against him, his Sableye are always waiting in the shadows
xxxx of Gen 8 : There have been since Brawl, a slot reserved to the latest generation of pokemon, it's something that I'm not willing to remove, as it will probably happen again next time anyway
Masked Man : Mother fans, this is for you, by removing Lucas, I allowed a place for a vilain of the Mother series instead, we have the apperance of the Masked Man, a heavely weaponised Cyborg with a lot of trick under his sleeves, litteraly, Porky would also have been a choice, but I settled on Masked Man instead for the representation of more than one game of this series
Hector : Replacing Roy, we get a Lord from the same era as him, using an entirely new weapon for this series, no more FE Swordman only, we now get one of the most popular Lord of all time, that do not use a Sword, instead he use a powerful Axe, really Heavy character, but packing a punch with every attacks, his Axe is a powerful, long ranged weapon
Micaiah : Once again, replacing a cutted character, with another from the same era, we get our first full blown mage of the series, Micaiah, using powerful tomes and her healing power to her advantage, she is a powerful oponent on long ranged battle, with her in, we have now Sword, Axe, Spear, Tome and Bow represented, the only missing weapon is Dagger, but it will do for now
DJ Octavio : Splatoon is one of Nintendo most recent IP, and one of the most succesful one too, that's why I do think it deserve a second rep for the next game, most people would bet on Octoling for the next Splatoon rep, I would personally bet on the antagonist of the series, the powerful DJ Octavio, in his Heavy mechas, this Music addict Octopus would be a very powerful character, that would trade of Speed and Heavyness, for Power and Range, long range fist and weapons, this character will be hard to take down if he can take a bit of range on you
Lip : In every instalement, we get a new retro/"Who ?" character, first we had Ice Climbers and Mr Game and Watch, then ROB, then Duck Hunt, after all those NES classic (apart G&W obviously); I think it's time to move on to the Super Nes, with a character that was represented in Smash since almost the beginning, since Melee her signature Flower was there, I think it's now time for the protagonist of Panel de Pon to come pick her weapon up, in a Smash !
I am now moving to an unknown teritory, the 3rd parties, excuse me if I do some error in judgement in who to add or not in there, I have less knowledge on them, I have to admit that much
Bomberman : I saw him being asked around since a while, and he is a classic character, that have been on Nintendo console since the beginning, with such a big history with Nintendo, I think it's a given to move this Assist Trophy to playable, using different kind of Bombs and boost of his own adventure, Bomberman will change the battlefield into a litteral Minefield ! Careful where you step !
Crash : Seem to be one of the popular mascot still not added in Smash that have an history with the Nintendo, recently with the N Sane trilogy, and before with some of his games coming to various Nintendo console, I think Crash earned his place into Smash
Echo Fighters
And now that we are done with the unique newcommer, let's get on with the Echo Figters, not a lot of them this time around, but they are still there
Dixie Kong : Beloved character of her series, she have the exact same body type as Diddy, allowing her to be his echo fighters, replacing her Up B with a grappler kind of think like Ivysaur, but with her hair, as well as making her tilts different hit, we have a Ken level echo fighter for this requested fighter !
Lucas : Lucas is not totally erased from the game, as I know it would be sad to get his nemesis in, while being unable to recreate his fight with him, but he is reduced to an echo fighter, which mean his move act the exact same as Ness, but his PK Flash still keep his freezing propreties
Medusa : Palutena get her nemesis as her echo fighter this time, focusing on more Aggresive abilities, Medusa trade off the LIGHTness of Palutena, for the DARKness of her moves, not that much of a difference because she is stil a echo fighter, but it does show like Dark Pit is to Pit
Shadow : Was pretty much a given, Shadow get to be the echo fighter of Sonic this time around, don't know why it didn't happen this time as a matter of fact ...
Well that is all ! Hope you will enjoy this roster, I'm not pretensious enough to say that I pleased everyone with it, but I did try my best to do so, to keep demands and requests in, and to add some logical choices to the roster, feel free to post your feedbacks in this thead ! I'll be sure to respond to any questions !
