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Guide Luigi's Frame Data [Deleted]
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Great stuff. Luigi is kinda hard to put offense/defense/speed/recovery/difficulty bars on since he varies so wildly in different aspects of the game.
He has horrible approaches, but when he gets in he hits hard. He can't wall fast characters out well, but slow characters are lucky to get a hit. He can't be combed, but he's easy to juggle. His frame data is incredibly fast, but he's got the worst overall airspeed in the cast and his ground speed is meh. His recovery is amazing, but only if no one edge guards you. He's easy to pick up and is definitely the best pocket character in the game, but he's almost impossible to solo main him at high level.
Never change Luigi :3
He has horrible approaches, but when he gets in he hits hard. He can't wall fast characters out well, but slow characters are lucky to get a hit. He can't be combed, but he's easy to juggle. His frame data is incredibly fast, but he's got the worst overall airspeed in the cast and his ground speed is meh. His recovery is amazing, but only if no one edge guards you. He's easy to pick up and is definitely the best pocket character in the game, but he's almost impossible to solo main him at high level.
Never change Luigi :3
His recovery is ungimpable if you have Mario Party mashing skills tbh. Just save your double jump and do rising Cyclone and your recovery problems disappear.
My bowling ball says he IS gimpable =).
He can clank out the bowling ball with upb though.
TriTails
Smash Lord
I would much rather recover high and eat an Up-air instead of getting a skull crack by a bowling ball and dying at like 30%.
Also, nice to have this page. I think his defense needs to be lower because while his walling abilities may be above average (Fireballs and SH F-airs), he has kinda short range and gets juggled easily. In his favor though, F3 N-air.
I also think his speed needs to be higher because no Luigis use the air for mobility but maybe that just me. Dat Perfect Pivoting tho.
BTW Aerodrome, surprised the at the difficulty level and sytle. I was seriously thinking the diff would be 1/10 and Down Throw sytle
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Also, nice to have this page. I think his defense needs to be lower because while his walling abilities may be above average (Fireballs and SH F-airs), he has kinda short range and gets juggled easily. In his favor though, F3 N-air.
I also think his speed needs to be higher because no Luigis use the air for mobility but maybe that just me. Dat Perfect Pivoting tho.
BTW Aerodrome, surprised the at the difficulty level and sytle. I was seriously thinking the diff would be 1/10 and Down Throw sytle
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FUEGO!
Smash Journeyman
I honestly scoffed at "half-grappler" and was like "who are they kidding? with this new D-tilt, he's a full-grappler!"BTW Aerodrome, surprised the at the difficulty level and sytle. I was seriously thinking the diff would be 1/10 and Down Throw sytle
TriTails
Smash Lord
Yes?
So I press N-air and stick my leg out. Then I fastfall down... and, uh, what exactly?
N-air isn't useful on bypassing things like Rosa's, Link's, Marth's, Ike's, etc U-airs. There are a ton of good reaching U-airs, a lot of them are disjointed, etc... No amount of N-air is gonna help against that unless you manage to surprise them or something.
Actually, no. Pre-patch: U-tilt > D-tilt. With his new D-tilt (Which is barely reliable anyway. Prepatch it was at least decent but now it's garbage), U-tilt is his best tilt so far. It combos to everything.I honestly scoffed at "half-grappler" and was like "who are they kidding? with this new D-tilt, he's a full-grappler!"
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FUEGO!
Smash Journeyman
I'm saying that because of his new D-tilt, I can't do a lot of my old set-ups. I used Down tilt a lot to set up RAR back airs. There's no question that Up tilt is the best, but I enjoyed not having a practically useless tilt.
TriTails
Smash Lord
Same. I've used to at least get a F-air outta a D-tilt. It can even airdodge bait for a hard punish and snyc them out of their game. Now... now... it's even worse than dash attack.
FUEGO!
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, it was honestly something I never thought would change. I suppose that was their way of changing him without taking away the playstyle by messing with his perfect weight independent Down throw.
Pazx
hoo hah
i'll check later but i'm still convinced that dthrow is slower on heavy characters
edit: please stop talking about dtilt
edit: please stop talking about dtilt
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