Lucas Attacks and Matchups

[ProjectTrey]

LUCAS
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BAD MATCH-UPS - 17
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Roy, Sheik, Marth, Rosalina, Little Mac, Zelda, Ganondorf, Pit, Dark Pit, Palutena, Ike, Pikachu, Captain Falcon, Olimar, and Pac-Man

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FAIR MATCH-UPS -16
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Ryu, Mario, Wario, Diddy Kong, Zero Suit Samus, Meta Knight, Fox, Falco, Jigglypuff, Greninja, Rob, Ness, Dr. Mario, Lucina, and Sonic


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GOOD MATCH-UPS - 22
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Luigi, Yoshi, Peach, Bowser, Bowser Jr, Mr. Game and Watch, Link, Toon Link, Samus, Robin, Duck Hunt Trio, Kirby, King Dedede, Charizard, Lucario, Donkey Kong, Villager, Shulk, Mega Man, and Mewtwo


LUCAS

Jab (2 - 4 - 8% Low - Fair)

Dash (9% Fair - Fair)

TILTS

U - tilt (9.335% Low - Fair)

F - tilt (7% Low - Fair)

D - tilt (3% Low - Low)

SMASHES

U - Smash (NC 21% - High , High) (FC 29% - High , High)

F - Smash (NC 14% - Fair , Medium ) (FC 19%-21% - Fair , Medium)

D - Smash (NC 17% - High , Medium) (FC 23% - High , Medium)

AERIALS

N - Air (1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 8% Fair , Medium)

F - Air (8 - 11% Low , Fair)

U - Air (13% Fair - low)

D - Air (3 - 7 - 10 - 15% Fair , low)

B - Air (7 -12% low , spike/medium)

SPECIALS

N - Special (22% - High - freeze , medium)

U - Special (% Varies - medium)

PK Cannon Ball (25% - Medium , High)

S Special (9% - Medium , Medium)

Down Special (8% - Low , Fair)

We would "ike" to remind you that we are working in Ryu and Roy Aswell

 

[Kodystri]

PLease don't be talking about MUs until later. At least give it a month. As of now, I do not want to say we have bad or good MUs because we do not know. Just be patient as we learn more about this PSI KID <3

Edit: Because it feels like you are guessing with no prior knowledge.

 

[AtoZYoshi]

PLease don't be talking about MUs until later. At least give it a month. As of now, I do not want to say we have bad or good MUs because we do not know. At least give it a month.

Edit: Because it feels like you are guessing with no prior knowledge.

We had 3 people each testing the matchups. We had multiple tests and feel as if this info is nearly accurate. If you would like to argue one of our match-ups, please do, but otherwise, carry on. Thanks .
These MUs are without customs

 

[Kodystri]

We had 3 people each testing the matchups. We had multiple tests and feel as if this info is nearly accurate. If you would like to argue one of our match-ups, please do, but otherwise, carry on. Thanks .

So basically if you have trouble with, lets say Pikachu, automatic Bad MU but had an easy time with Luigi, its an easy MU. Matchups are determined by both characters playing at their maximum potential. All of the other characters for the most part, are playing at their maximum potential, Lucas is clearly not. Lucas has not even been fully worked on. People are still working on the frame data, damage percent, kill throws, kill combos, combos, throw combos.


To me, it feels like Luigi is an easy MU 'cause you can heal from his fireball while Rosalina is a Bad MU because she can gimp you. Automatic good and bad MUs respectively to most people's eyes. Remember when people jumped to conclusions that Little Mac was OP? Same thing is going to happen here, but instead the MUs going to change drastically. Just saying. I am not trying to be rude and stuff, but I just want MU Opinions to happen later.

 

[ProjectTrey]

PLease don't be talking about MUs until later. At least give it a month. As of now, I do not want to say we have bad or good MUs because we do not know. Just be patient as we learn more about this PSI KID <3

Edit: Because it feels like you are guessing with no prior knowledge.

We completely respect your opinion and hope you enjoy new content... Even if we continue to post more of our matchups. We love to hear your feedback and would love to see you in more of our content

 

[FSK]

I've played over 50 matches with Lucas and I think I can vouch for the validity of this information. I have for instance never lost to a Bowser on FG. Good work guys keep it up!

 

[Dumbfire]

I've played over 50 matches with Lucas and I think I can vouch for the validity of this information. I have for instance never lost to a Bowser on FG. Good work guys keep it up!

As an experienced user of Lucas in over 64 separate smash bros. battles, I

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

We had 3 people each testing the matchups. We had multiple tests and feel as if this info is nearly accurate. If you would like to argue one of our match-ups, please do, but otherwise, carry on. Thanks .

Only 3?


I'm pretty sure you need alot more than 3 lel.

Wouldn't be surprised if @ Aunt Jemima and @ TewnLeenk moved this to the MU thread and locked this one.
Then again, the stickied MU thread hasn't even opened, so who knows whats happening with that lol.

 

[AtoZYoshi]

I do not know if you fully understand the content of the chart, but I have confirmed that the original chart you commented on agrees with the statement you thought it was going against.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Also, can I have an explanation on what makes all the characters that are listed as bad MU's for Lucas?

As in, individually.

 

[AtoZYoshi]

Also, can I have an explanation on what makes all the characters that are listed as bad MU's for Lucas?

As in, individually.

We're on it Thanks for the suggestion we never thought of that!!

 

[AtoZYoshi]

*We're "ONETT" Haha

 

[Kodystri]

We're on it Thanks for the suggestion we never thought of that!!

Um... what? So you did put them on random?

 

[AtoZYoshi]

Um... what? So you did put them on random?

Put what on random?

 

[FSK]

Also, can I have an explanation on what makes all the characters that are listed as bad MU's for Lucas?

As in, individually.

I think the reasons are self-explanatory though.

 

[Dumbfire]

I think the reasons are self-explanatory though.

I agree, who needs "explanations" and "reasoning" behind MUs? It's clear these gentlemen have done thorough research and I am convinced. Can someone make this into a chart and sticky it?

 

[AtoZYoshi]

I think the reasons are self-explanatory though.

Though this is a persuasive argument, we would like to give this info out anyways.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

I think the reasons are self-explanatory though.

Surprise, surprise, they aren't.

The fact you say they are "self-explanatory" is kind of silly in and of itself lol.

 

[FSK]

Surprise, surprise, they aren't.

The fact you say they are "self-explanatory" is kind of silly in and of itself lol.

Though this is a persuasive argument, we would like to give this info out anyways.

 

[ProjectTrey]

Only 3?


I'm pretty sure you need alot more than 3 lel.

Wouldn't be surprised if @ Aunt Jemima and @ TewnLeenk moved this to the MU thread and locked this one.
Then again, the stickied MU thread hasn't even opened, so who knows whats happening with that lol.

I agree, who needs "explanations" and "reasoning" behind MUs? It's clear these gentlemen have done thorough research and I am convinced. Can someone make this into a chart and sticky it?

Hey man, calm down... We never said we weren't adding reasons for the bad matchups... We just didn't think of that, we have been testing day and night to try to make this the most accurate list there is

 

[AtoZYoshi]

Hey man, calm down... We never said we weren't adding reasons for the bad matchups... We just didn't think of that, we have been testing day and night to try to make this the most accurate list there is

I have to agree

 

[AtoZYoshi]

I have to agree

No literally I HAVE to. I was one of the people working on this project, I can validate his statement

 

[Aunt Jemima]

We're waiting a couple weeks before opening the MU thread. Either way, this thread is completely unnecessary and useless, so...

PK Lock?

 

[TewnLeenk]

^^^ What he said.