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Vyse

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Alright, so we've got a lot of stickies in here which some of you may be happy enough with, and that's fine if you are.

However if you guys want to clean up the sticky clutter a bit, here's the chance to do it.

I've had a few suggestions made, but I think here's where we should talk about it.

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Brawlplusery Official Codeset 5.0 RC1 Discussion -> Stays
The PAL code database -> Stays
Official SSB4 Discussion Thread -> Desticky since it's active?
Official Code Q&A + Requests -> Stays
Balanced Brawl Standard Release -> Stays
Textures now possible without ISO Hacking! -> Merge with Texture Database thread?
Texture Database -> Merge w/above?
Do NOT upgrade your Wii to 4.2 -> Goes into welcome wagon? Also could become an announcement
COMPETITIVE Brawl+: Code Agenda -> Stays
Smash Workshop Welcome Wagon -> Add the Do NOT Upgrade Wii info

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I'm not going to touch anything til you guys figure out what you want, if you want anything changed in the first place.

I leave it to you.

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ThatGuyYouMightKnow

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The Brawl+ and BBrawl releases don't need stickies.

I really think they don't.

It's nice to see their official releases, but I see stickies as very important Help topics, I.E. things people usually have trouble with; textures, music, PAL, etc. It's not like the threads won't get bumped to glory anyway, I see the Tactical Discussion stands tall. Workshop isn't too active outside of the TD and the stickies. =/ Unfortunately, I would say sticky something related to the PSA guide or the subaction list, but that wouldn't be worth it, as PK has gone on "break" and the Subaction list isn't lively in the slightest, even if it's just a list.

That goes for the "COMPETITIVE" Brawl+ Code Agenda. Really.

The Q&A, I don't know how active it is, but if it's not getting a lot of attention, it should stay a guide, and be destickied. Otherwise it's fine.

SSB4 Discussion should never have been stickied. It's just basic talk of it, not anything truly important, and yes, it's pretty active. I guess.
 

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I think the Do not upgrade Wii should be an announcement mainly because it'll receive more attention not to update the Wii and it won't be too late.

I agree with Blanka (Guy) about the BBrawl and Brawl+ stickies though.
 

Swordplay

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I generally agree with the OP's recommendations except I think the Competitive brawl+ code agenda should be taken down. We have ALMOST ALL THE CODES

There are only a few random codes that we don't have but know will be implemented like projectile/props which from the last time I saw PW post, he said he was looking into it.

Instead of the Competitive brawl+ code agenda, I think it should just become a DATABASE for existing codes and perhaps coders could give updates in that thread on the progress of those few random codes we don't have yet. However, even the code request thread could serve for new codes updates.



EDIT: Screw that, lets just merge the PAL code Data Base and Kupos thread into 1 large database that contains all versions of all existing codes for all regions available.
 

rPSIvysaur

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Yeah, we totally need a page for PSA stuff, kind of like Brawl+ characters have
 

shanus

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The Brawl+ and BBrawl releases don't need stickies.

I really think they don't.

It's nice to see their official releases, but I see stickies as very important Help topics, I.E. things people usually have trouble with; textures, music, PAL, etc. It's not like the threads won't get bumped to glory anyway, I see the Tactical Discussion stands tall. Workshop isn't too active outside of the TD and the stickies. =/ Unfortunately, I would say sticky something related to the PSA guide or the subaction list, but that wouldn't be worth it, as PK has gone on "break" and the Subaction list isn't lively in the slightest, even if it's just a list.

That goes for the "COMPETITIVE" Brawl+ Code Agenda. Really.

The Q&A, I don't know how active it is, but if it's not getting a lot of attention, it should stay a guide, and be destickied. Otherwise it's fine.

SSB4 Discussion should never have been stickied. It's just basic talk of it, not anything truly important, and yes, it's pretty active. I guess.
Definitely not true. They are like the crown jewel and info hubs for both of those projects, keeping them stickied is important.

The other ideas by Vyse i think are good.
 

CloneHat

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I wouldn't mind merging my thread with the texture guide, as long as the name was changed so people wouldn't be confused.
 

ThatGuyYouMightKnow

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Definitely not true. They are like the crown jewel and info hubs for both of those projects, keeping them stickied is important.

The other ideas by Vyse i think are good.
Which? The release threads?

As I said, it's not like the threads won't get bumped to glory like things get in the Workshop. IMO stickies are just important Help topics, or topics that need to be bumped a serious amount of times to be seen. If a topic is active and gets posted in a lot, it really shouldn't need a sticky, unless it's an important help topic. If the merging of the Texture Database and Texture Thread wasn't such a great idea I'd propose the Texture Thread be stickied. Too many people have problems with textures/music, and we don't really want constant threads popping up asking for help about it.

Discussion of Brawl+ and BBrawl shouldn't be the most important topics to the Workshop is all I'm saying.

Err. I think I went hypocrite at least twice in two posts. =/
 

Skieth

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One third of the front page is stickies. That definitely needs to be trimmed down a bit. I agree with Vyse's suggestions for the most part. I think we could even shove the brawl+, bbrawl, and pal codeset stickies into one big code sticky, but that's just me. bbrawl and brawl+ can fly on their own, there's no reason to have two official threads each on the front page.
 

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I think we should just have a separate forum for Brawl+ (and BBrawl as well I guess) and leave all the Texture/PSA/SSB4/Help with non-Brawl+/BBrawl things in this room.
 
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Which? The release threads?

As I said, it's not like the threads won't get bumped to glory like things get in the Workshop. IMO stickies are just important Help topics, or topics that need to be bumped a serious amount of times to be seen. If a topic is active and gets posted in a lot, it really shouldn't need a sticky, unless it's an important help topic. If the merging of the Texture Database and Texture Thread wasn't such a great idea I'd propose the Texture Thread be stickied. Too many people have problems with textures/music, and we don't really want constant threads popping up asking for help about it.

Discussion of Brawl+ and BBrawl shouldn't be the most important topics to the Workshop is all I'm saying.

Err. I think I went hypocrite at least twice in two posts. =/

except that the official release thread (for B+ at least) isn't meant to be posted in often, but only to report bug, glithes etc.

@skieth: big no to merging the PAL code database with anything. it is the only place where PAL specific things can really be discussed. when merged it will just be flooded over by NTSC talk, and unstickied noone will ever find it again.
 

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SSB4 thread should just be moved to General Brawl Discussion (and not stickied).

Doesn't even make sense to be in this forum.
 

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SSB4 thread should just be moved to General Brawl Discussion (and not stickied).

Doesn't even make sense to be in this forum.
I think its just the lack of any place it could belong in.
Techncially it doesn't even belong in General Brawl Discussion because it has nothing to do with BRAWL. Meh... :V
 

ThatGuyYouMightKnow

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except that the official release thread (for B+ at least) isn't meant to be posted in often, but only to report bug, glithes etc.
Then all it's doing is taking up space for more important stickies. People can report bugs in the thread without it being stickied, the search option is there. All the sticky does for the most part is show that B+ went official or BBrawl had its Standard Release, and also showcases what it contains. No real reason for it to be that important.

Although, against what I said, people usually just make topics about it anyway. (Or am I just not paying attention again.)
 

Vyse

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Now that I'm done with Uni for the year, I can get around to sprucing this place up a bit.

Is everything we discussed before still the go?
Or do we need to do something different?
 

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im starting to think it might be worth it to have a 'file replacement' sub-board for psa, textures, etc...the vast majority of new hacks are replacing files in new and wacky ways, after all

but as for stickies, it all still stands afaict

code agenda seems to have died, but we should probably keep it sticked for legacy purposes

i think i can offer to create a new welcome thread for the workshop, id keep it updated and everything

one new suggestion i have is abolishing the b+ character board...aib has 1-up'd swf on that front
 

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This might be stupid, and feel free to tell me why it is, but why not just have one sticky with links to all the currently stickied threads?
 

shanus

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im starting to think it might be worth it to have a 'file replacement' sub-board for psa, textures, etc...the vast majority of new hacks are replacing files in new and wacky ways, after all

but as for stickies, it all still stands afaict

code agenda seems to have died, but we should probably keep it sticked for legacy purposes

i think i can offer to create a new welcome thread for the workshop, id keep it updated and everything

one new suggestion i have is abolishing the b+ character board...aib has 1-up'd swf on that front
Please no, I think most of us don't ever even visit the AiB boards.
 

Rudementry

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Whats AIB?

No wait, its that place where casual wifi players chill and continue to fail miserably at brawl but they think they're pro and are all obsessed with Samboner. Or maybe that was a different site I can't remember.
 

DiamondbodySharpshooter

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I honestly think textures (for characters), BRSTMs and all dealing with them, and stages (stage retexturing, stage replacement, ect) need boards for themselves. We should cut out whatever doesn't need it anymore. It may also be easier if we make a new BRSTM Custom Music Hub, since the OP no longer updates.

Also, and this one isn't a suggestion to be stickied, but I am thinking of making a topic for all of the (worthwhile) PSA characters that aren't going to be worked on that were either started, or have solid ideas but the creators cannot make them. Since I've been here, I've seen a few of these threads, as well as people asking for ideas for what they can make.

Lastly, are the Q&A threads stickied? I never see anyone use them (or rather, I see many people not use them.)
 

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The only reason hacks don't have more than this one board here (Smash Workshop) is to avoid drawing too much attention to it. Which I can understand. But, I would like it if there was a Brawl+ board and then a Smash Workshop board.

But more to the point, I concur with Vyse's plan. Go for it!
 

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Whats AIB?.
Exactly. XD *SMACKED*

As others have said, Vyse, your plan, go for it dude. A lil more organization could always do some good. There was a time where I would've asked for the PSA Submission Thread to be a sticky, but I don't think there's really a point anymore. :<
 

DiamondbodySharpshooter

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Exactly. XD *SMACKED*

As others have said, Vyse, your plan, go for it dude. A lil more organization could always do some good. There was a time where I would've asked for the PSA Submission Thread to be a sticky, but I don't think there's really a point anymore. :<
Is it cause no one uses it, and favors making their own attention-grabbing PROJECT OF AWESOME? Cause if it's cause no one uses it, and favors making their own attention-grabbing PROJECT OF AWESOME, that's true.


And that's terrible.
 

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Omg file replacement board is WANT. Looking at the current page of threads, 17/30 (That's a majority) of the threads are about some form of file replacement. It's getting overwhelming really. I do think a PSA/BrawlBox section would work just as nicely though
 

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I think that there needs to be a sub-forum of SOME type. Threads get pushed out within a few hours, and it's kind of hard to get things done sometimes.
 

1048576

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I'd really like to know what's wrong with my idea of just having one sticky with a link to all the other stickies. If nothing else, just to satisfy my own curiosity.
 

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This might be stupid, and feel free to tell me why it is, but why not just have one sticky with links to all the currently stickied threads?
I actually liked that idea. I remember it being brought up before and then being shot down for some reason that I forget. I think it's a great idea, I did then and I do now.
 

ThatGuyYouMightKnow

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I actually liked that idea. I remember it being brought up before and then being shot down for some reason that I forget. I think it's a great idea, I did then and I do now.
That actually does sound good.

It would promote people to post in the threads and keep them active.

The problem is making them post instead of making new topics. =_=
 

1048576

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Well, you could title it "IMPORTANT: Read before posting" or w/e.
 

Dan_X

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Consolidating is always good. I'm going to be the broken record here and say "a PSA/ file replacement sub-forum would be a godsend!" There's more than enough content to give rise to a healthy sub-forum.

Just becase mods may not want it doesn't mean it's a bad idea...
 

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I want a apps/content creation thread, simply because I want to find the people working on stuff and making progress, not the 100 "how do I/is this possible" threads.
 
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