Ledge Boosting *Updated with wavebounce version*

[GwJ]

The trick is to glide toss so that you still have momentum by the time you Up-B

 

[Commander_Beef]

If this wasn't said already [because I don't feel like reading right now], as long as we don't glide toss that far away, we don't have to do the Glide Toss Ledge Cancel while we are right next to the ledge. We can slide a little bit before we reach the cliff, and we'll still obtain the same large boost launching off the ledge, so it's another plus.

And that pretty much answers this quote.

out of curiousity, is it possible to do this from standing a little bit away from the edge instead of right on it?

We can pretty much do this technique anywhere where our glide toss's slide will be negated. It's good that Mister Eric showed in the video that we can do this in between the globs on Brinstar...that part negates the slide too, great job once again Mister Eric.

 

[6Mizu]

Personally, I don't this AT often.
But......it's a really good tech.

 

[Mister Eric]

Hopefully I will get to implement this in the tournament I'm going to this weekend during a recorded match for some examples. I'm getting the pivot down much better ^_^. it's got me doing grounded pivot up+b's more too which I've always wanted to have into my game.

 

[GwJ]

Can you help explain the pivot ledge boost to me? I've never been a good pivoter.

 

[Syde7]

Can you help explain the pivot ledge boost to me? I've never been a good pivoter.

Basically, its doing the glide-toss thing, and then inputting the up+B & rotation of joystick to get the "turn-around" up+b. The momentum from the glide toss flings you back TOWARD the stage, and the pivot of the up+B makes you FACE the stage (or away from it, depending on which way you glide-tossed &such).

 

[Mister Eric]

Can you help explain the pivot ledge boost to me? I've never been a good pivoter.

A good way to learn the pivot before doing it with the glide toss is to just do a running, grounded pivot up+b. It's pretty easy if you have tap jump on, but if you keep it off like I do then you might have to map another jump button. I use Z to do this (changing grab to X). So if it's off, you need to be running in one direction, then input the jump + reverse+b all in the same motion. If it's on, then just don't worry about doing the jump as the stick will do it for you.

I recommend this first because you can see all the motions. If you do it on the ledge you can only feel and hope you're doing it right because R.O.B. isn't going to be moving. I guess go from running pivot up+ b's, then glide toss pivot up b, and finally the ledge pivot up b.

Sorry if this was a redundant read, i is super sleepy ^_^

 

[Syde7]

Just a little FYI, this can be done off the edge of pretty much every type of platform.

 

[Mister Eric]

Sexy.
I hope you tried it on every platform on 75m. j/k XD

No recorded footage just yet. Though the tournament I was at, Mr. E and Sneaky Tako used it to their advantage in-tournament. Sneaky said the ledge boost to fair was pretty sick.

I'll have a dazzle present at the tournament this weekend so I'll try to record any matches I can.

Thanks, Dull for testing all of that out!.

 

[sneakytako]

Yeah, this is really good at catching people off guard and getting a free gimp :D

 

[Commander_Beef]

Just a little FYI, this can be done off the edge of pretty much every type of platform.

I thought this theory was established already for this technique.
"It will work anywhere if we glide-toss somewhere where it cancels the slide."

 

[Syde7]

NP, man.

I thought this theory was established already for this technique.
"It will work anywhere if we glide-toss somewhere where it cancels the slide."

There are a few where it *doesn't* work, unless I consistently messed up on those platforms specifically, which may or may not be happening.

 

[Darth Waffles]

Attempt at 3:50 http://www.youtube.com/user/ChiboSempai#p/u/17/mnkBLwJFro8. Nobody really recovers near the arc where this takes ROB though.

Because of the music, I also just played through Megaman X on the SNES. Discuss.

 

[Mister Eric]

Attempt at 3:50 http://www.youtube.com/user/ChiboSempai#p/u/17/mnkBLwJFro8. Nobody really recovers near the arc where this takes ROB though.

Because of the music, I also just played through Megaman X on the SNES. Discuss.

At the angle which TL was recovering, this probably would have been best done on the the middle or right platform. Also if perhaps done a little closer toward the edge it would have been more practical to try the boost. He pretty much did just a glide toss to up+b bc not much momentum carried over from the ledge.
Good catch tho ^_^


Last second thought, after rewatching before posting this, doing the GTLC would have been best on the middle platform.

 

[Silhouette]

It also emphasizes that hitting them with the fully charged gyro is one of the best setups.

 

[6Mizu]

It also emphasizes that hitting them with the fully charged gyro is one of the best setups.

I don't think it's that different than a normal gyro hit....unless the opponent is at medium - high percents....

 

[T0MMY]

hola beepos,

here i is again with what I hope some of you will find useful.

first,
the video!

EDIT: An extension to the technique:
Ledge Boost Wavebounce

This is why I keep telling everyone here to read my posts on AiB. I post new things there and eventually someone else figures it out later here.

I'm surprised HugS didn't post something about it when I used it on him at TourneyPlay 2.
I called it the "Super Booster".

Edit: also, eventually you will do the snazzy reverse-momentum Super Booster, it looks crazy X^)

Edit 2: my bad, you call when you reverse the momentum a Wave Bounce.... wtf? Where are the waves, lol.

 

[Jamnt0ast]

YES. I'm pumped to try this out next weekend

 

[Kofu]

Edit 2: my bad, you call when you reverse the momentum a Wave Bounce.... wtf? Where are the waves, lol.

"Wavebounce" is (if I remember correctly) is mashing the control stick in the opposite direction after you initiate a Special. It's similar to the B-Reversal except that wavebouncing reverses your momentum instead of maintaining it.

 

[GwJ]

Stop living on Allisbrawl and come to SWF more often.

 

[Jamnt0ast]

KK lol

 

[6Mizu]

Stop living on Allisbrawl and come to SWF more often.

Lots of people need to more of this....I mean SWF is very welcoming & very helpful.
Right?

 

[Jamnt0ast]

Well, I consider myself a good ROB user, but I've just been hiding.

I dont want scrubs from AiB here if they arent going to say anything useful or look at the posted techniques and build off of them.

IMO

 

[T0MMY]

Lots of people need to more of this....I mean SWF is very welcoming & very helpful.
Right?

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH RIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHT
lol.

I started here way back in the day and left because this place is anything but. Maybe it's just me, but I love AiB, and that's where all my content is going to stay. I just drop by here every once in a while to say hi, even though I post something useful every once in a while.
Seriously though, if you want to keep up on R.O.B. game development you should read the posts here and read my posts over at AiB.

Edit: oh, and the Reverse-Special doesn't change your momentum, but the Reverse-momentum does... that's what I was referring to.

 

[T0MMY]

Ah, here's a clip of me doing the Super Boost at EVO against AlphaZealot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fXTV8Q7maU
@3:39

I was pretty sure there was a vid of it somewhere.

I mentioned it in this blog here: http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=23221
Five paragraphs down.

 

[Mister Eric]

That's cool, man. I've watched this video before and didn't catch it, mainly because it's easy to see it as just an up b out of glide toss because you perform it before actually being at the ledge, therefore we see the mobility.

I'm not trying to claim that I found it, but when I did stumble across it, I thought it best to expose ^_^

ggs against AZ =]

beeped him silly.

 

[Raffi815]

Wow looks pretty awesome. I am trying it right now.

 

[Raffi815]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT2nsK8Q1mg heres my try on it

 

[Mister Eric]

Me likes it too. We must wi-fi some time.

 

[Tin Man]

Lol i've tried to friendly raffi so many times and always get shut down XD, good luck Mr eric

 

[Mister Eric]

Lol i've tried to friendly raffi so many times and always get shut down XD, good luck Mr eric

He'll be beggin me to play before too long

just/beepin