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Tesh

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DDD is easy to exploit offstage, don't get greedy onstage for early kills, just grab him if you need to and throw him off the stage and thats when you wanna land your bair/fair/uair kill.

I generally only approach for those 0% CG-fsmashes and once arrows start lifting people off the ground. But thats not gonna work on DDD.
 
Pitzer

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DDD?

Basically you're gonna be playing him like you play Falco at 0% Just avoid his Grab range at all cost's. Arrow him a lot his shield isn't as great as people say it is. If you see him Spot dodge you have 4 options, one, Slow Jab, this can however be beaten by an armored grab, Short hop Nair, Roll behind him slow jab, or walk up uptilt. Pelt him with arrows alot, don't be fancy, just get the job done. Play simple vs him and avoid his grab zone and you'll be good. If he bair spams, just walk away and shoot arrows.
 
Maharba the Mystic

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slow jab will not beat his spot dodge spam consistently. i play a DDD main all the time out here. infinite jab is great since it hit's his hurtbox before most of his can actually hit pit and it clanks everything else. not saying slow jab doesn't rock the MU either as it will beat his nonspam spot dodge and is just good in general. if he is near the ledge but not on it an AR will usually put out some good damage. everything else ptzr said is correct.

seriously though watch out for bair offstage/below the stage. and the disjoint range on the back of utilt. ftilt is slow and dtilt, well it's a great move but why are you in a situation he can use it in?
 
Juushichi

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I've timed a missed jab so I can grab DDD out of his spotdodge before. I've done it with both Pit and Sheik so maybe itll work for you guys if you want to take that risk.

What is our CG % for him anyway? I know I've taken D3 between 40%-60% before. I actually rarely fsmash him out too. I usually go for as many f-throw regrabs as I can and then dthrow.

:phone:
 
Maharba the Mystic

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look it up in the combo thread. i put the cg thread in there too

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if people wanna wifi that's cool and i will but since i don't play it often it really messes me up since i do a lot of reaction and buffering. wifi is so hard for me to play at all that it is honestly not even all that fun. just ask AP. when there wasn't a lot of lag i did fine. soon as laggy lag set in boom, got *****. so just know that if you wanna play me on wifi you won't be getting the real maharba you other pit mains

being good at wifi is an art form though bro. you really are amazing at wifi. i don't understand how you can even do a pivot grab properly when it's lagging like it was. every time i tried to it would either sidestep or pivot dsmash. all i could get to work was like jab and AR. oh ya and the fact that you can PS while wifi-ing is incredible. i absolutely cannot do it. ggs man
 
Gadiel_VaStar

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Patriotic Zero (PTZR) said:
I cg'd a d3 up to five times then an f-smash.
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Kinda sounds a little lucky catch. I'm sure D3 can DI out of it by the fourth grab. Also, you can just pressure D3's shield with spaced fairs and they can't do much about it. Full hop dairs work well for pressure on D3's shield, and crossups with the up-b fair/bair can work as shield pressure.
 
Juushichi

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Maharba the Mystic said:
look it up in the combo thread. i put the cg thread in there too

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if people wanna wifi that's cool and i will but since i don't play it often it really messes me up since i do a lot of reaction and buffering. wifi is so hard for me to play at all that it is honestly not even all that fun. just ask AP. when there wasn't a lot of lag i did fine. soon as laggy lag set in boom, got *****. so just know that if you wanna play me on wifi you won't be getting the real maharba you other pit mains

being good at wifi is an art form though bro. you really are amazing at wifi. i don't understand how you can even do a pivot grab properly when it's lagging like it was. every time i tried to it would either sidestep or pivot dsmash. all i could get to work was like jab and AR. oh ya and the fact that you can PS while wifi-ing is incredible. i absolutely cannot do it. ggs man
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It's kinda funny because I get people all the time that are surprised that I can PS consistently on Wifi. I really don't like playing online and I only have a bit more exposure to it than you, but I use it exclusively to learn or sharpen up on just simple stuff. Sometimes lag is really bad (so I have to dumb down my Pit quite a bit) but I've found that I can play him pretty normally on Wifi. On the flip side, I can't play my Sheik whatsoever on there, it's absolutely horrendous. I haven't really gotten the hold of buffering moves in brawl, so it's not a core of my gameplay at all.

With Pit I have the luxury of playing a moderately zoning heavy, player-centric defensive game with certain reactions coming automatically. If you break into a certain zone I have a few options in my head that come about but it usually takes a while. When I finally figure out certain things, is when you'll see me throw in some stuff like dair wiffs to FF-bair (sweetspots) or empty hop land grab or walk thru pivot fsmash. It's also why I prefer to end my CG's with d-throw instead of fsmash. [EDIT:] Unless I go for f-throw finish DA -> utilt. That's pretty good damage there. (from 0% tho)

You lose a little bit of damage at low-% to get reaction reads (opponent AD: Pivot Grab, walk pivot f-smash, full jump dair, other stuff | jump: uair and stuff).
 
Admiral Pit

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You can't start this stuff without me now can you... Despite my current stress, pain, and infection (it's not what it sounds like), I'll still fight, but I don't want to see top tiers atm, or Oli...
 
Admiral Pit

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It's on the "Brawl FC" thing on the right of the post, with the "join date" and such.
 
Admiral Pit

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Sorry bout the last part. I wanted to show you my light show before you left, but I didn't seem to be doing it right recently D:

I'm also sad that I didn't get that mini highlight clip on your last stock at PS1, the one with the looped arrow and Angel Ring ;( That would have helped Project P so much.
 
Juushichi

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Good games AP, I had to get off in order to do some housework. Extremely great Pit, It was quite difficult for me to keep up, but I wasnt discouraged. One of the most entertaining wifi sessions I've had ever.

There is so much I saw that I want to emulate it's crazy. - Me at 10:07 crashboards lol.

Don't worry about it. You did a lot of stuff that really opened up my eyes. I really liked your platform use. I thought that I shut down people on platforms but man you upped it to like 13. I have some new tricks to try to learn.

:phone:
 
Admiral Pit

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I'm sometimes misunderstood about how I play and my personalities, and such, but that doesn't I don't have potential. I'm quite impressed that I didn't have to camp super hard during those matches. Against annoying chars like MK, Falco, and such, I'd have to. I hope I can develop more precise attacks in due time.
 
Admiral Pit

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Yea um, don't push your luck... I have a grand hatred for top tiers, and would rather not speak of my fears or dark aura today. I'll only play again if Marth (and Snake, I know you use him too) isn't being used, and tbh, I only played because Fyre wanted me to... Can't resist her charms... Then again, who would want to? -_-
 
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