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Tough guy was in Smash 4 as well. Just an head up.As a Very Professional and Most Definitely Certified K. Rool Expert™, when it comes to the Bowser/K. Rool matchup specifically, it's slightly in K. Rool's favor since he can decently zone against Bowser, giving him a slight edge, but even with super armor K. Rool can only eat a couple f-smashes or aerials, so playing smartly around his projectiles and going aggressively makes K. Rool a punching bag.
Outside the specific matchup, Bowser is definitely the better heavyweight. I would personally give the title of best heavy to Ganon, with Bowser a very close second, while K. Rool I would put as the second worse, with Ridley right beneath him. K. Rool has more tools, but they have arbitrary limitations (Crown is one of the best throw items in the game, so if an opponent grabs it off the ground K. Rool's in for hurt, especially if he tries to read with Gut Check to reflect and whiffs, Blunderbuss has more promise but the start-up, even if you hit an opponent's shield with a cannonball and pick it up you'll often get hit before you can shoot it anywhere and the angles you can shoot it are limited) while Bowser has less tricks, but more raw reliability and simplicity in his kit (Fire Breath is easy damage, Flying Slam and Whirling Fortress are good get-off-me tools, and even Tough Guy is a downgraded version of K. Rool's passive that is just more reliable for breaking combos).
So Bowser is, quite certainly, the better character than K. Rool.
... I still like playing K. Rool more though, he's fun to play to me personally. Just hoping he gets some substantial buffs eventually to make him better. Probably not enough to bump him up to High Tier, but K. Rool being a decent competitive threat you can't sleep on would be a pipe dream.
Did I imply Tough Guy wasn't in 4? If I did I apologize, didn't realize I came off that way, yes I realize Tough Guy was in 4 as well. Although worth noting is that Tough Guy was near negligible in 4, and got buffed to be a lot more useful in Ultimate, making Bowser an even tougher contender.Tough guy was in Smash 4 as well. Just an head up.
I still dislike how he got nerfed in Patch 2.0. Most people were calling him a low tier anyway. It's not like all of King K. Rool's gameplay revolved around blunderbuss and his down throw.I remember when people were claiming that K. Rool was broken and clearly the best superheavy.
Good times...
The "noob-stomping" that lots of people were having trouble with did, so that's what got hit unfortunately. After that patch the team's been getting a little better not nerfing characters that don't deserve it and buffing characters who actually need the help. Not perfect though, of course.I still dislike how he got nerfed in Patch 2.0. Most people were calling him a low tier anyway. It's not like all of King K. Rool's gameplay revolved around blunderbuss and his down throw.
Very solid write here, although i dont agree in my opinion that k rool needs a buff. His recovery is extremely good and his projectiles although slow hit really hard and zone well. Buffing him might tip the scales to much.As a Very Professional and Most Definitely Certified K. Rool Expert™, when it comes to the Bowser/K. Rool matchup specifically, it's slightly in K. Rool's favor since he can decently zone against Bowser, giving him a slight edge, but even with super armor K. Rool can only eat a couple f-smashes or aerials, so playing smartly around his projectiles and going aggressively makes K. Rool a punching bag.
Outside the specific matchup, Bowser is definitely the better heavyweight. I would personally give the title of best heavy to Ganon, with Bowser a very close second, while K. Rool I would put as the second worse, with Ridley right beneath him. K. Rool has more tools, but they have arbitrary limitations (Crown is one of the best throw items in the game, so if an opponent grabs it off the ground K. Rool's in for hurt, especially if he tries to read with Gut Check to reflect and whiffs, Blunderbuss has more promise but the start-up, even if you hit an opponent's shield with a cannonball and pick it up you'll often get hit before you can shoot it anywhere and the angles you can shoot it are limited) while Bowser has less tricks, but more raw reliability and simplicity in his kit (Fire Breath is easy damage, Flying Slam and Whirling Fortress are good get-off-me tools, and even Tough Guy is a downgraded version of K. Rool's passive that is just more reliable for breaking combos).
So Bowser is, quite certainly, the better character than K. Rool.
... I still like playing K. Rool more though, he's fun to play to me personally. Just hoping he gets some substantial buffs eventually to make him better. Probably not enough to bump him up to High Tier, but K. Rool being a decent competitive threat you can't sleep on would be a pipe dream.
Thank you, although I strongly disagree that K. Rool doesn't need a buff. Ask almost anyone in the community and they'll tell you K. Rool's a bottom tier, or at the best, low mid tier character. His cons, such as slow frame data, large hurtbox, and even his belly armor leaving him in a vulnerable state if hit by strong enough moves, far outweigh his pros, like the ones you've listed. He can't even zone or defend properly against any other zoners due to his own zoning tools being slow and predictable, and his reflector lasting a short time and carrying lots of lag. Unless the balance team deliberately tries to, I don't think any buffs they give him will suddenly make him anywhere near top tier, his recovery and projectiles aren't anywhere near the best in the game, especially in the latter case.Very solid write here, although i dont agree in my opinion that k rool needs a buff. His recovery is extremely good and his projectiles although slow hit really hard and zone well. Buffing him might tip the scales to much.
But for sure 1v1 he’ll beat bowser if equally skilled and has an easier time fighting other zoners but generally speaking bowser is the better super heavy.