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Just for fun: Nerf a character to the ground by replacing their best move(s) with a bad one

Ryu Myuutsu

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Just as the thread says. Without touching their attributes and frame data, take out a tool from a character's kit and replace it with one that would be useless on them.


:ultsamus::ultdarksamus:. There is one defining move that allows these characters to be effective in neutral: Charge Shot.
Charge Shot give the Samuses a projectile with different stages of power. Weaker versions can guarantee follows up and the strongest version is a powerful KO option. Since you can charge in the air, it is also a good movement option with B-reverse and Wave Bounce.
So, take out Charge Shot and replace it with Warlock Punch, arguably the worst neutral B in the game, which will make the character nearly useless.
 

MrGameguycolor

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:ultincineroar: with Yoshi's Side-B, Egg Roll.
Take away this character's only decent punish tool against shields and recovery tool, and replace it with basically nothing...

:ultsimon::ultrichter: with Bayo's F-Tilt.
Lose an important walling tool.

:ultshulk: with Jiggypuff's Neutral-B, Rollout.
Probably adds very little to his kit and morphs him into a bland, stoic swordie...

:ultpacman: with Rollout.
It'd look funny but would do very little.

:ultcharizard: with Ridley's Down-B, Skewer.
While it would look cool, it'd cut off his connection to the rest of the team.

:ultganondorf: with Wario's F-Smash, or Hero's Up-Smash.
Have fun trying to land these stubby moves.

:ultsnake: with Falcon Punch.
It wouldn't hold a candle to grenades, but he could find a few ways to confirm into it, so not all bad.

:ultluigi: with Jiggypuff's Up-B, Sing.
R.I.P recovery and kill confirms.


:ultwario: with Byleth's Down-B, Aymr.
Speaks for itself, though I just pictured Wario yelling "Aymr" and I am laughing.


:ultike: with Mac's Nair.
Goodbye viability...
 

Ryu Myuutsu

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:ultmario:'s Uair with Mac's Uair.
No more ladder combos.

:ultgnw:'s Up B with DK's Spinning Kong.
This ruins G&W great recovery and robs him of the best OoS option in the game. On the ground, G&W spins just like DK but his arms are so short and stubby that they'll barely hit anyone, and in the air he becomes he's extremely vulnerable to being edguarded.

:ultpiranha:'s Ptooey with Villager's Pocket.
Pocket is not a bad move on Villager and Isabelle, but with it PP's ledguarding game suddenly ceases to exist. At least it has a semi decent option against camping.
 
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MaddaD

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:ultinkling:/:ultinklingboy:: Replace Side-B with Byleth's Side-B
Their premiere kill confirm is now dead, replaced with an option which can't be followed up on at higher percents and won't kill at all at any typical percentages
 

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replace :ultness:'s side b with :ultolimar:'s side B (no pikmin will instantly spawn for him)
replace :ultpiranha:'s up b with :ultjigglypuff:'s up b

replace :ultvillager:'s aerials with :ultlittlemac:'s aerials

replace :ultike:'s nair with :ultcharizard:'s nair

replace :ultluigi:'s grab with :ultcorrin:'s grab
 

Mogisthelioma

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:ultkingdedede:'s nair with :ultpiranha:'s nair. Replace a decent combo breaker and combo tool with a whiff punish with awful frame data.
:ultcloud: with :ultkirby:'s up B. Similar moves, but Cloud loses his best OOS option and gets a weaker spike.
:ultinkling:'s bair with :ulthero:'s. I don't think I need to explain this one.
 

Arthur97

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Also don't think PK Fire is Ness' best move, or Plant's being up special (it's probably Pitooie).
 

Blutrausch

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:ultbanjokazooie:
Wonderwing is replaced with Luigi's Green Missile.

:ultbayonetta:
Witch Twist is replaced with Snake's Cypher.

:ultbowser:
Whirling Fortress is replaced with Duck Hunt's Duck Jump.

:ultbowserjr:
Clown Kart Dash is replaced with Jigglypuff's Rollout.

:ultfalcon:
Up aerial is replaced with Little Mac's up aerial.

:ultcloud:
Limit Charge is replaced with Ridley's Skewer.

:ultcorrin:
Dragon Lunge is replaced with Samus' Super Missile.

:ultdiddy:
Banana Peel is replaced with Robin's Nosferatu.

:ultdk:
Back aerial is replaced with Little Mac's back aerial.

:ultdoc:
Dr. Tornado is replaced with Sonic's Spin Charge.

:ultduckhunt:
Trick Shot is replaced with Joker's Gun.

:ultfalco:
Up tilt is replaced with Ganondorf's Volcano Kick.

:ultfox:
Up aerial is replaced with Snake's up aerial.

I would like to do more, but this is taking quite some time.
 
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