Jigglypuff Moveset Discussion

[Jigglymaster]

The problem with DACUS is that it leaves you completely vulnerable. Usmah has small range so you have to get right next to the opponent with it before you can let go and during all of this time you are not attack and cannot block, and unlike Snake, we don't have a small first hitbox like he does during his DACUS.

Too many times have I tried to dacus a Metaknight to either get ftilted or dmsashed.

 

[-LzR-]

Lmao. Ppl irl called me Lazer or ell-zee-arr.
There is no right or wrong, but not that I can hear it over the internet anyways.

@Jigglymastah
I have also experienced DACUSing into attacks like MKs tilts way too often >_>

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I don't ever use DACUS, my playstyle is very bare bones and I don't like to do anything risky, really.

-LzR-: I always pronounced it ell-zed-arr. Hooray for non-American pronunciation of Z!

 

[T-block]

^props for zed

i know i'm canadian, and i usually say zed, but zee flows so much better for his name

 

[-LzR-]

Never heard anyone using zed O_o
Well that's the cool thing about a name you can't really say normally and doesn't mean anything

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Zed is the euopean/latin way to pronounce Z. Maybe no euopean, but the english use it.

 

[-LzR-]

That might explain it.
Also, where is mah green naem D:

Nvm got it back...

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Yeah, I'm Australian and we say 'Zed' here.

 

[Exegguter]

I'm Canadian. We say zee.

I knew cause of aib el ow el.

 

[T-block]

What kind of Canadian says 'zee'? -_-

BACK TO MOVESET DISCUSSION

 

[san.]

I'm a fan of her boost grab/boost pivot grab. It makes her a little more quick on the ground.

@Grim

Nair by itself isn't so great, but it's a pretty useful utility move, in conjunction with other moves supplemented by her aerial speed.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I'm a fan of her jump.
Jiggz best move imo.

 

[Blissard]

Has anyone ever successfully done the Rising Pound > FF Sourspot Nair/Fair > Jab Lock in a tourrnament match? I can't even get it in training mode lol.

Yeah, I'm Australian and we say 'Zed' here.

Omg I have an Australian cousin, and when he visited America he asked me for thongs, and I was so confused. But apparently thongs are flip flops in Australia?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Yeah, lol, thongs are flip-flops.

Does he play Smash? I might know him.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I've done that in a friendly once at last stock. I got ragequit on. :/

 

[-LzR-]

Now that we have a lot of activity, shall we revive this thread too?
I think it will be valuable later.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Didn't we cover everything?

 

[Noobicidal]

Didn't we cover everything?

According to the OP, we haven't covered grabs, pound, Sing, Rest, up tilt, or jab. I'm not going through 500 posts to see if that's accurate, though.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I specificically remember going through pound and jab.... and utilt. lol

 

[Noobicidal]

Take that up with him, then.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Eh.
It'll work out.

 

[-LzR-]

We have a lot of moves I haven't added to the OP =/
It's too bothersome searching for them. Maybe we should just rediscuss them. Shouldn't hurt to do so.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I want to discuss Sing last, please.

 

[T-block]

It'd be a shame to leave this incomplete. Is it really that hard to search for past discussions? I'll do it myself eventually if you don't want to.

 

[-LzR-]

You can help me by simply giving me the numbers of the posts which discussed certain moves.
Like for example: jab, posts 50-76

I'll do it then.

 

[-LzR-]

I think we did jab before, but let's still do it again.

The move is one of the worse jabs in the game. I lacks range and is most of the unsafe.
What I like to do, is to just jab them to interrupt then and then do something else before they notice.
Sometimes I also like to use this when an opponent is near the edge of the stage or a platform to knock them off. If they shield it, you can sometimes get a grab as they might wait for the second jab.
I am pretty sure Puff also has a decent jab to grab combo, but our grab is a lot bigger than our jab (confirm pl0x?) already so there shouldn't be much reason to do so.

K?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I don't use jab.

EVER.

/except4jablocks

 

[Kaptain]

Jab...
Only use it when I get confused and don't know what's happening on the screen.

 

[T-block]

Kay, Jab isn't THAT bad ._.

You guys are making it sound like Sing.

 

[IhaveSonar]

I never use jab as Jiggs. Whenever I'm in a situation where I could jab, I usually either grab or ftilt.

The only thing, in my mind, that keeps her jab from being the worst in the game is that it does have the potential to be used in a jab lock. (I really need to learn how to do that.... -.-)

 

[-LzR-]

I use this simply as a mixup. When I land near my opponent, a jab might be a decent option since they shouldn't expect such.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I use jab to bait a spot dodge or a shield.
That ways i can grab, Fsmash or DA

 

[Kaptain]

Can we discuss the uses for up taunt next? Its only slightly less useful than jab.

 

[-LzR-]

Come on throw your ratings, then we move on to the next move.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

1 out of 10.

 

[-LzR-]

2/10 for me.
It's not like sing or dtilt. I might actually lead to something good, but is never worth it.

 

[IhaveSonar]

What -LzR- said. 2/10. It might lead to something good, but it's almost never worth it. If you can jab, you can probably grab.

 

[-LzR-]

What -LzR- said. 2/10. It might lead to something good, but it's almost never worth it. If you can jab, you can probably grab.

Couldn't have said it better. It's kinda sad that grab is not only better in range, it's also pretty much as laggy as jab is, but it totally ignores shields. So yeah, jab is totally outclassed by grab.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Can Jab trigger RCO lag?

 

[-LzR-]

I am 90% sure Jab doesn't make them rise at all, so no.
But obv if you catch their landing but gl with that.