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Jigglypuff Frame Data

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I'd be fine with all of the bad points Jiggs had if rest would just kill at 30% again. :crazy:
 

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ITT we complain about the numerical properties of an abstractly-designed cat monster in a fighting game.
 

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The thread looks really good, I'm sure your debug code is great but I don't have Brawl+, or even my Wii right now. Does Jigglypuff have IASA frames on any of her moves?
 

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ITT we complain about the numerical properties of an abstractly-designed cat monster in a fighting game.
excellent plan, I'll start.

WHY!?!?!?!?!?! :laugh:

Well back to the point, you did a great job with all of this, but I was wondering if you could track the hitboxes of pound as you tilt up or down.

that would be cool if you could.
 

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The thread looks really good, I'm sure your debug code is great but I don't have Brawl+, or even my Wii right now. Does Jigglypuff have IASA frames on any of her moves?
This is based on IASA frames, not entire animations. So when you can first interrupt the attack is the duration. Shielding takes 2 frames, so if you shield on 50 of the attack, its a 48 frame long attack before you can do anything.
 

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Updated for Up air. Check it out. Pretty good move if its hitboxes didn't suck, definitely a rapetastic move on Olimar.

EDIT: Updated for all grabs. Going to do it in Thinkaman's order, which was almost exactly what I was going to do.
 

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I played a tourney match today against an Olimar... with Jiggs. >_>
It was a disaster. I hate Olimar.

Good job, Alex. You almost have every move.
 

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No, seriously. Your fans demand taunt data.
 

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Taunt data would be awesome.

Taunt baiting is serious business. That's why Wario is so good at it. ^^
 

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Wow, is Jiggly's spot dodge really 3-16/25? That's terrible! Pika's spot dodge is 2-20/22.
 

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Whoa! That's awesome, Alex. o_o
I didn't know our slow edge was actually good, I never had to use it much.

Great work! What else is left?
 

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All the throws are up. I have getup attacks and I am pretty much done :)
How did your early tests differ from the new ones? How much were you off by?

They would seem off when you used a capture card because the frame rate drops on the capture card and the game, so you would have gotten mixed results.
 

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How did your early tests differ from the new ones? How much were you off by?

They would seem off when you used a capture card because the frame rate drops on the capture card and the game, so you would have gotten mixed results.
Nah it doesn't drop it just sometimes captures the same two frames twice. Which screws it over. It differed by generally less than 2 frames on each.
 

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Nah it doesn't drop it just sometimes captures the same two frames twice. Which screws it over. It differed by generally less than 2 frames on each.
Getting off by a few frames isn't bad at all. But the debug pause is just too easy and too accurate. Things like the f-smash damage growth and rest's one frame hitbox could only be proven with the hack.

I won't be suprised if more small discoveries like this come up in the future.
 

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What is this...?
The downfall of the Jiggly boards?
 

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Eff that. Someone's just gotta make a new guide.

At least there will be new management.
 

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As long as there is a puff there is hope

But no, heck the wario boards do not have not much activity, but they still live on.
Just have to think of more topics to discuss. WHat brawl has only been out 1 year, look how much we squeezed out of melee.
It's more that Alex, a leading member of the boards, cleared the JBR and deleted all of his guides and such for Jigglypuff.

It's really kind of ridiculous right now.
 

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It's just too bad we lost an important member of the community.
Brawl breaks friendships, this place will become a desolate ruin some day. I'll help run the guides if we still have some dedicated members left after this.
 

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I'm sticking around...my only problem was with the management. I'll help with whatever I can, if people will have me.
 

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It's just too bad we lost an important member of the community.
Brawl breaks friendships, this place will become a desolate ruin some day. I'll help run the guides if we still have some dedicated members left after this.
Count me in. I've been aching to finally help this place.
 

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It's too bad you're leaving...
So exactly what are you going to do now?
 
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