Roxas215
Smash Lord
Im so mad this hasn't been made yet. If zard can get his own thread why not ivy?(Of course being that she sucks could be a reason no one made this yet lol)
So i think i may be the only person who wants to main solo ivy. I do think she sucks(i even think she is bottom 10) But idc. Ivy is fun to play. And even with her obvious flaws she has some good stuff going for her in brawl+(Yes ivy is a she. Don't question it. lol)
1st let me post the changes of her in b+
Ivy leaf sped up 1.3x
Ivysaur D smash windsdown 1.25x
Ivysaur upB gives a bigger hop
Ivysaur standing grab now has 1.2x wind-down
Ivysaur dair 2x after frame 12
Ivysaur dair sourspot 80 degrees from 50
Ivysaur Dash attack angle 100 from 70
Ivysaur Bair: All hits do 5 damage instead of 2
Ivysaur Uair: minus 2 damage, plus 2 base
Ivysaur Bullet Seed (both hitboxes) KBG 60 from 40, BKB 15 from 10
Ivysaur Dsmash spikes
Character Specific Gravity and Jump Power Modifications
Chara ID SH FH FF DGrav Grav Filler
Ivysaur 1F 1.025 1.025 1.200 1.050 1.000 0
Ivysaur was the combo oriented one in the group in vbrawl. Now in brawl+ all 3 have some sick combos but ivy is the most stylish out of all them. I think everyone knows how **** dthrow to uair can be(you can di it though) You can also combo to up b. She still has a wicked bair used for spacing(And it does 5% each now) And with no asl it's easier to land nair spikes(or her new dsmash spike) Also her dair ***** tether recoveries.
Speaking on recoveries lets talk about hers. She is still easily gimped(which she should be. I wont even speak on the failure that was multiple up b's) However she has a little going for her to get back onto the stage.
1st since her dair is faster you can use it in the air to stall. This will help u save that second jump when u need it. Also her faster leaves can knock people off the ledge. And her up b does give a little boost like oli. Still don't get it twisted she is very easily gimped so try not to be off the stage to begin with.
However she has plenty PLENTY of flaws. She really don't have any legit lead in to kill moves besides razor leaf to fsmash.(Which anyone can see coming not to mention people can just jab through the leaves) And like i said dthrow to uair can be di out of and you can tech the dsmash. Ivy is about spacing and well timed smash attacks. It can be very difficult at times to land the ko.
I feel ivy is a way better team char then 1v1. Back when she had her omghax leaves i would even say she was kinda broken in teams(this vid proves that lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgMIs0GJb5s) But even without them she is still very viable in teams.
Also ivy is freaking **** on warioware. I firmly believe banning warioware against ivy will be as common as banning fd against diddy in vbrawl. IT'S THAT BAD! lol.
Im going to try to get some vids up and make this post more vivid with pics and guides and stuff. Just posted this to see if there are any other ivy players out there!
So i think i may be the only person who wants to main solo ivy. I do think she sucks(i even think she is bottom 10) But idc. Ivy is fun to play. And even with her obvious flaws she has some good stuff going for her in brawl+(Yes ivy is a she. Don't question it. lol)
1st let me post the changes of her in b+
Ivy leaf sped up 1.3x
Ivysaur D smash windsdown 1.25x
Ivysaur upB gives a bigger hop
Ivysaur standing grab now has 1.2x wind-down
Ivysaur dair 2x after frame 12
Ivysaur dair sourspot 80 degrees from 50
Ivysaur Dash attack angle 100 from 70
Ivysaur Bair: All hits do 5 damage instead of 2
Ivysaur Uair: minus 2 damage, plus 2 base
Ivysaur Bullet Seed (both hitboxes) KBG 60 from 40, BKB 15 from 10
Ivysaur Dsmash spikes
Character Specific Gravity and Jump Power Modifications
Chara ID SH FH FF DGrav Grav Filler
Ivysaur 1F 1.025 1.025 1.200 1.050 1.000 0
Ivysaur was the combo oriented one in the group in vbrawl. Now in brawl+ all 3 have some sick combos but ivy is the most stylish out of all them. I think everyone knows how **** dthrow to uair can be(you can di it though) You can also combo to up b. She still has a wicked bair used for spacing(And it does 5% each now) And with no asl it's easier to land nair spikes(or her new dsmash spike) Also her dair ***** tether recoveries.
Speaking on recoveries lets talk about hers. She is still easily gimped(which she should be. I wont even speak on the failure that was multiple up b's) However she has a little going for her to get back onto the stage.
1st since her dair is faster you can use it in the air to stall. This will help u save that second jump when u need it. Also her faster leaves can knock people off the ledge. And her up b does give a little boost like oli. Still don't get it twisted she is very easily gimped so try not to be off the stage to begin with.
However she has plenty PLENTY of flaws. She really don't have any legit lead in to kill moves besides razor leaf to fsmash.(Which anyone can see coming not to mention people can just jab through the leaves) And like i said dthrow to uair can be di out of and you can tech the dsmash. Ivy is about spacing and well timed smash attacks. It can be very difficult at times to land the ko.
I feel ivy is a way better team char then 1v1. Back when she had her omghax leaves i would even say she was kinda broken in teams(this vid proves that lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgMIs0GJb5s) But even without them she is still very viable in teams.
Also ivy is freaking **** on warioware. I firmly believe banning warioware against ivy will be as common as banning fd against diddy in vbrawl. IT'S THAT BAD! lol.
Im going to try to get some vids up and make this post more vivid with pics and guides and stuff. Just posted this to see if there are any other ivy players out there!
