it is really bad but back throw is good

[mystogan_#]

it is really bad

 

[MangoPeachey]

I mean he has a frame 8 grab with a killing backthrow, there are definitely far worse grabs

 

[Specs64z]

What even is this thread??? What’s really bad, exactly? Use nouns, not pronouns.

Also, standing grab is frame 6, and dash grab is frame 9. Ness’s dash grab was frame 8 in Smash 4.

 

[MG_3989]

All I know is that back throw is really really good. So is down throw

 

[EarthBoundEnigma]

The only bad throw... is the kind where you choose to lose.

 

[Mr Saturn Fanboy]

Grab window: Small

Grabs: Good in every direction. (maybe not up)

Combos: Several great Ness combos start with grabs

Sure, its no Melee Marth grab, but its still good!

 

[MG_3989]

Grab window: Small

Grabs: Good in every direction. (maybe not up)

Combos: Several great Ness combos start with grabs

Sure, its no Melee Marth grab, but its still good!

Up throw can actually work as a mix up. I use it sometimes when they’re not quite at backthrow percent (like around any time after down throw drops comboing-110% or so or 130% or so center stage depending on weight). Ness likes characters in the air. Once they’re in the air you can mix up PK Thunders, Uairs, and sometimes bairs and pick up a surprising amount of KOs

Don’t get me wrong a lot of times back throw is better for spacing and getting them off stage but uthrow works as a mix up