Isaac for Smash Ultimate - #GoldenSunday Shines Again!

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Something I was thinking about.

Let's assume for a second that the Grinch leak is fake.

MysticDistance (an insider) mentioned that there would be a trailer that includes two character reveals. Now some people are saying that it would be Ken and Incineroar, but that would be the first time two newcomers from different franchises appeared in a trailer together. It's not impossible but there's also no precedent for it.

What are the chances of the trailer MysticDistance is talking about being a reveal of both Isaac and Felix?
In the case of Ken and Incinroar they both have fire attacks and use fire. Ken could be Incinroar's foe. But yes they're from unrelated series, but I could see ken appearing in the trailer

I hope its Isaac and Felix. No one else in the leak is really cloneable or they're already a clone. Mach Rider and Excite Biker maybe??
 

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*puts tinfoil hat on*

The reason why Incineroar doesn't appear on the banner leak is because they have commissioned more than one company to make display units for them and they've provided each company with material showing a different (or slightly different) set of characters in order to lessen the damage dealt by a potential leak.

Sorry. :p
 

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Thank you! Yeah, I draw quite a lot, in my job and privatly.
I am actually working on my own smash fanart, for a long time already (actually since Smash WiiU...) but now im gonna update it for ultimate!
It's very wip in many aspects, but I think that is the most relevant art to show here: My Smash Bros WIP fanart
Let's hope I can officially add Isaac to it one beautiful day!

Edit: And yes, I will have to redo Link.. wasn't satisfied with him anyway! xD
That's gonna end up looking phenomenal man! I hope you get to finish it as time goes on, no wonder it took pretty long time.



Hello there!

Just a French Geno supporter passing by to say you this: good luck. Smash speculation has been pretty harsh for everybody, but our goal is pratically reached by now.
The love you all have for Isaac is... truly amazing. It seems like I'm sharing the same one for Geno. Besides, everyone seems so kind and sweet in Isaac's support. Really, I love the atmosphere you're sharing.
This is why I wanted to understand. Why do they find Isaac that great? Is he that relevant for Smash? Is Golden Sun that good?

And oh boy was I right.
I've just left Vale with Garet in my party, and I'm already enjoying a lot what I'm seeing there. The music is so goooood! The story is quite intriguing, too. And I'm sure it will become even greater throughout the game! Now, I think I'm beginning to understand why you all want Isaac to be recognized. I've just started to play at Golden Sun, but I'm already sure this game is... well, golden. A true masterpiece. This is something I can feel. I felt something similar with each of my favorite games. So... yeah, now I will truly be disappointed if Isaac doesn't make it. But I'm convinced his chances are pretty high, so don't lose hope!

You're definitely in for, uh, golden time. :grin:

Reminds me that I should probably continue my game too, my cutie blondie Jupiter Mage is waiting. :colorful:

I tell you though, you're gonna be in for quite a journey. Doesn't it just feel timeless too? It's what makes a great (J)RPG to me.

And as you said, love and dedication for GS-series really is immensely passionate and huge - and it deserves it all too. I remember being quite floored on finding about sites like Golden Sun Syndicate that really let me get knee-deep on the series' class system, or Adept's Refuge - which is like a full-blown RP-site for GS-fans, with pretty extensive clans within.

And of course, there's some sum of fan material to have fun with when you've completed the game! ;)




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So, I've been thinking about the Grinch leak for a while, and I'd like to break down and analyze some of it.

First, though, I would like to cut down on some of the flaws of the pro-Grinch argument:


We don't know that this is true. There is, as yet, no confirmation that this company contracts with either Bandai-Namco or Universal Studios, let alone both. While the company he worked for a year ago did contract with Bandai-Namco, the one he currently works for may or may not. Also, this argument fails to consider that Bandai-Namco would not be handling publicity, Nintendo would, since they are the publisher.



Now, as we get to the rest of it, we need to approach the leak logically. Following Occam's Razor, let's simplify things as much as possible. What must be faked in order to pull of this leak?

The answer is actually ridiculously simple. The only thing that needs to be faked is the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate material. Everything else can be genuine. The leak could actually have been created by someone who works for a publicity company and makes these sorts of promotional materials. The material for The Grinch could all be genuine, as could his work history with the company. As the meme says "anyone can make a fake leak". Even a publicist. There does not need to be any identity theft or identity fraud for this to be faked. Not even the Snapchat aspect of it was necessarily faked. It could have been something that he sent a friend via Snapchat, never meaning for it to go further and his name to be revealed (though that would mean all of this was created to fool one or two people, which does seem rather farfetched).


The only things that needed to be faked were the actual Super Smash Bros. Ultimate materials. So, let's look at them for a second.

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This is the image that has received the most attention, specifically the multi panel image in the middle. This image, apparently depicting a version of the Battlefield background used in the Mural but with the characters removed, has been reviewed in detail by a number of artists and digital arts enthusiasts, most notably ArtsyOmni, whose video on the subject can be found here.

I, however, am not an enthusiast or expert in digital art manipulation, nor of artistic techniques or analysis. So I will leave that to those who are.

Instead, I will focus on other, less analyzed aspects of the leaked materials, which I do have experience with.


Beneath the "LOL" emoji is what appears to be a set of display instructions for a circular hanging display. The display would contain the mural, wrapped into a circle (taking advantage of the fact that the mural's edges merge seamlessly), and suspended from four lines that converge at a single hanging point. This makes it clear that this is a display to be hung from the ceiling, and that the mural image would go on the outside of it.

Now, here is where things get interesting. It has been pointed out by some that the Mural image on this hanging display is not properly scaled, and that the mural would not fit on the display as shown. Whomever has made such an argument is an individual whom I can only assume has never had to set up a retail display, or at least, never actually looked at the instructions for doing so. Because, as someone who has set up dozens, and reviewed the instructions for probably hundreds over the course of seven years work in retail, I can assure you that the instructions for those displays are NEVER properly scaled. Or properly clipped. Or properly angled. Or properly sized. Or properly representative of the space you actually HAVE on a display to put the items they're telling you will fit there. Or-

Ahem. Apologies. Anyway, the point is, the instruction pages that come with display materials are designed to show you how to assemble them, how to display them, and what to put where. They are never artistically accurate. Literally, NEVER. The only ones I have seen which are accurate in terms of visuals are ones which are simply pictures taken of already assembled displays (which are inferior for the purposes of showing how to assemble such displays to the simple line drawings with cutouts).

The reasoning for the art being off is actually very simple: It's nothing but a placeholder, and its only purpose is to convey to you what side should face out, or to help confirm which piece you're looking for. Frequently (though not always), if the item being displayed is a book, magazine, or game (anything with a definitive "front") the picture will be skipped entirely, and instead replaced with a simple display of the title in block text. The images which do show up are usually minimal effort. Low quality images, taken from a camera, badly shoved into place, and then clipped to fit the block lines. Sometimes they will be perspective shifted to match the angle of the display. Sometimes not. Sometimes they'll be perspective shifted to NOT match at all (which can be really infuriating to see from someone with mild OCD about clean displays).

Scrolling down, we then see the three panel display. It has been said that these are for a light box display, and that would explain the low quality and color shifting of the art. I do not disagree or argue the point that a light box display would need to be altered in such a way. From personal experience, it would, though I cannot say what the result would be. However, I would argue that the image in question is simply too small to be used effectively for such a purpose. The light box displays I've worked with in the past are frequently quite large, and this one is roughly the size of a single sheet of paper for a three panel display. No. In actuality, this is another page of display instructions. While it is probably display instructions for such a light box, its purpose is merely to highlight which panel goes in which part of the display, to assure that the panels are in order and properly displayed.

And before you ask, the answer is yes. Such instructions do indeed assume that you are a moron who cannot tell which parts of a continuous display image go where just from looking at them.

Below that, we have further block diagrams, including some empty boxes which could be filled with instructions, more photos, or information specific to a particular store or outlet as this material is distributed.

So this entire image is actually a picture of display instructions for promotional material, rather than promotional material itself. It is likely a picture of a picture of promotional items, both taken with poor cameras, and neither intended to be professional quality.

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This image, on the other hand, which I have yet to see be artistically analyzed at all, is itself promotional material.

It's a packaged display of a circular item. It appears to be a wristband, due to both the size and the taper at the end. You can also see a faint outline of those same hanging instructions in this image, above the wristband, that looks as though it's being shown through a blank sheet of paper. The wristband appears very professionally produced, with properly scaled images placed correctly on the wristband.




So, after reviewing these images, the only conclusion I can come to is that this is 100% genuine. Artistic anomalies in the instructions are expected. In fact, I would be honestly shocked if they were not there. This gentleman's role in the company likely includes either review of materials, or assembly of the instructions themselves. The images used were likely taken by a worker at this company (if not the gentleman in question), on a low quality camera, and jumbled and edited into place to fit the lines and serve their bare purpose of being a placeholder (they were almost assuredly NOT provided by Nintendo). Any artistic analysis of those pieces is utterly irrelevant to the validity of the leak.

@papagenos Billybae10K Billybae10K - This might be something you guys would want to review.
Thank you so much for the explanation. I will say that it makes sense that the artwork for the instructions wouldn't be as detailed as the actual promotional material itself. At a relatively cursory glance, it does seem like the battlefield on the wristband does look the same as the artwork for the instructions (with the same artwork that has been scrutinized). So if that's supposed to be the final product then I suppose that same gripe could be applied to the wristband.
 

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Thank you so much for the explanation. I will say that it makes sense that the artwork for the instructions wouldn't be as detailed as the actual promotional material itself. At a relatively cursory glance, it does seem like the battlefield on the wristband does look the same as the artwork for the instructions (with the same artwork that has been scrutinized). So if that's supposed to be the final product then I suppose that same gripe could be applied to the wristband.
Not quite. It's similar, yes. Because it's the same scene. But it has logos or characters covering most of the parts that have been analyzed in detail. What's more, it's a better quality image, since it is intended as a final product.
 

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On a more upbeat note, I imagined how the new item will be introduced, and how it could tie to an isaac reveal.
The direct would start by an item presentation, showing of old and new items, like the Growth one.
"With the possibility of the new ladder attacks, we wanted to allow the players to place their own ladders on any stage to change the space and flow of battle. With this little sprout, a vine will grow for a few dozens of seconds, allowing anyone to climb it like a ladder.
But some of you may already be familiar with it tho" In the back ground we see gameplay, and ivysaur climbing it and...
Black screen, cue up the CG trailer.
Ivysaur and pokemon trainer coming up a cliff, and chasing something in a bush. We don't see what yet. While they get closer, a little light flies past them, and we hear/see Link chasing it, as if it was a fairy. Together they slowly approach the bush, ready to jump on it when the two djinnis jump out and try to escape ! One of them headbutts Link (cause come on, it'd be fun) who then draw his sword and prepare to strike only to get parried by the blade a mysterious figure that cover the poor creature, before that figure extend their hand and propels link several feets away.
Meanwhile Ivysaur tries to catch the other djinni with his vines, only for them to be cutted not by a sword, but by spiked brambles coming out of the ground.
Camera pans out, revealing Isaac defending the two djinns.
"Isaac stands his ground !"
The two djinns flies and links to Isaac.
Cut to gameplay section.

I also thought of something that could be a neat detail but probably won't be in game.
You know how only Adepts can see psynergy ? It'd be neat if in game, well probably in online matches, you'd only be able to clearly see Isaac's psynergies if you play a mystical character, fighters with affinity or knowledge of magic (Zelda, Ganondorf, Robin, Lucario, mewtwo etc). Others would still see something, but kinda blurry, instead of a hand for example.

Edit:

Hey guys, if a new Golden Sun game is released, how do you think it will start? Maybe with the story of Felix's son or something like that?
I'd prefer to play his daughter, would be nice to have a girl protag. Something like taking place a bit before the end of the third game, right before the eclipse ends. Maybe her being trapped by a monster of darkness, and getting "infected" by it. So she'd be a dark adept and when we meet Matthew he could be a light one. At least partially. (and then fun ensues because love triangle with best girl)

Edit2:

In the case of Ken and Incinroar they both have fire attacks and use fire. Ken could be Incinroar's foe. But yes they're from unrelated series, but I could see ken appearing in the trailer
It would actually work. Incineroar is a heel catch fighter. They could be doing a promotional match, after all Ken is a star and a business man. Ken would be the "good guy" and inceneroar the "bad guy" of the show. It would be fun to see them fight for "fake" until something happens and they both get serious. (king dedede crashing the party probably, or Captain Falcon coming in to steal the show, angrying both ken and Incineroar).
 
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Maybe, all the psynergy they suck up has to go somewhere. Though they seem to be artificially created, or at least they can be. It means the empire can use them effectively, maybe they have access to this dimension and use the energy to feed something, or it's just empty but filled with psynergy absorbed, making it a reserve of raw power to be used in their floating kingdom, or soldiers, akin to magitech.
 
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On the topic of Isaac and Felix in a trailer, that would be freaking awesome!
 
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There's no precedent this time, but it's happened in past Smash games.
This.

I've been considering it possible for characters who could be "themed" together. Isaac and Geno (RPG characters), Shadow and Mach Rider (bikes), no longer possible but Isaac and Isabelle (both former Assist Trophies). Or maybe they just have a Brawl reveal trailer-like blow out at the end. Really hard to say there.


But yeah, while there's no precedent now, its definitely happened before. Captain Falcon was confirmed to return (not a new character but still counts) alongside Lucina and Robin last time, for example. Though last time, with Smash 4, all newcomers did get their own trailers (and were only paired up with newcomers from the same franchise) as well. So they haven't done this since Brawl... but there's nothing stopping them from doing it again now.


Something I was thinking about.

Let's assume for a second that the Grinch leak is fake.

MysticDistance (an insider) mentioned that there would be a trailer that includes two character reveals. Now some people are saying that it would be Ken and Incineroar, but that would be the first time two newcomers from different franchises appeared in a trailer together. It's not impossible but there's also no precedent for it.

What are the chances of the trailer MysticDistance is talking about being a reveal of both Isaac and Felix?
I was confident in Isaac and Felix for a while, but the leak doesn't include them at all. So either Felix is going to be a Dark Pit situation (not confirmed and not shown on the mural, but he is in the trailer and is unlockable in the final game--Sakurai did say he'd merely reveal the DESIGN of every character), or Felix just isn't in.
 
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I really hope we get a Direct this week. This needs to be cleared up as soon as possible one way or the other. If it’s real, it’s real and people are happy with the hype train continuing.

If it’s not (still Team Fake until something more substantial pops out, though leaning towards the Golden Sun sprout item) oh boy. A LOT of people are going to be upset for various reasons. Whether it be the lack of this many new characters or the lack of specific characters, people are going to be upset.

Especially Banjo. I know the remainder of the roster in the leak is fan oriented, but people know Banjo very well. He’s the biggest non-Echo character by far and even mentioning he could have a chance in the past has gotten people excited, so he is a big gun I’m starting to see people just downright expect after this leak. A hilarious if tragic way for this leak to end would be Microsoft just downright confirming he isn’t in, and I could almost see them doing that if this leak is indeed fake.
 

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We're entering Day 5, yet STILL the leak has yet to be disproven.
Basically nothing has changed and nothing will change. Everything meaningful was discussed the first day or two of the leak.

The leak won't become any more "real" or any more "fake" by virtue of age. Either you believe the evidence on the "fake" side or you believe the evidence on the "real" side. The only conclusive evidence will come from Nintendo themselves.

I would also caution against using "absence of evidence of falsehood" as "evidence of veracity". If we never saw Bomberman's assist trophy but someone showed us this and passed it off as real?
https://twitter.com/superbomberbros/status/1024520922580086785

That art looks 100% genuine. Same with the Smash 4 Rayman hoax. Same with other hoaxes. It's absolutely convincing, no mistakes at all. But it's still fake. And we only know it's fake because 1) the artist stepped forward, or 2) we got more official information from Nintendo.
 
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Basically nothing has changed and nothing will change. Everything meaningful was discussed the first day or two of the leak.

The leak won't become any more "real" or any more "fake" by virtue of age. Either you believe the evidence on the "fake" side or you believe the evidence on the "real" side. The only conclusive evidence will come from Nintendo themselves.

I would also caution against using "absence of evidence of falsehood" as "evidence of veracity". If we never saw Bomberman's assist trophy but someone showed us this and passed it off as real?
https://twitter.com/superbomberbros/status/1024520922580086785

That art looks 100% genuine. Same with the Smash 4 Rayman hoax. Same with other hoaxes. It's absolutely convincing, no mistakes at all. But it's still fake. And we only know it's fake because 1) the artist stepped forward, or 2) we got more official information from Nintendo.
Those fakes are still more tame in the grand scheme of things compared to this one, actively getting a real company involved that had to step forward and make a claim and the possibility of an innocent person getting framed in all this.
 

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If we never saw Bomberman's assist trophy but someone showed us this and passed it off as real?
https://twitter.com/superbomberbros/status/1024520922580086785

That art looks 100% genuine. Same with the Smash 4 Rayman hoax. Same with other hoaxes. It's absolutely convincing, no mistakes at all. But it's still fake. And we only know it's fake because 1) the artist stepped forward, or 2) we got more official information from Nintendo.
That's entirely subjective though. I never bought into into the Rayman hoax and seeing a closeup of Bomberman would make me very suspicous. They don't have the same amount of edivence that can prove that the leak can be real. As far as I'm concerned only the Palutena 3d leak ever made me think it was real. Nothing else came even close to me.
 

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I tried figuring out Isaacs pose in the supposed leak, maybe I will brush it up if i am motivated!
Wondered where I should post this, so i figured here would be fitting, since i was lurking here for a while :)
This is great, and spot on. Sadly not Flint in this one but I still think it looks great. Hope we see flint in a taunt or his victory screen instead.
 
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Hey guys, if a new Golden Sun game is released, how do you think it will start? Maybe with the story of Felix's son or something like that?
Honestly... yeah. But honestly to break the mold a little bit I think it should focus on Felix’s daughter.

That being said I’m still rooting for a franchise restart. Still think a GS4 18-19 real life years after the first game would be a terrible idea, no matter which system it’s on.

And another thing is I’d absolutely love to see a prequel game. A game leading up to Alchemy being sealed.
 
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Hey, Golden Boys, a Genobro popping in to voice support! Hoping for the leak to be true, and for both our picks to get in.

Also, I wanted to ask a question: have any of you guys cleaned up/enhanced/recreated Isaac's pose in the banner leak? I've seen people say he's kneeling and casting Growth, but I'm having some trouble getting a clear mental image of it. Something that's especially bothering me is what's happening with his left leg...why is it all blue?

All the other characters' poses I've managed to envision, but Isaac's is escaping me. Can anyone clear this up for me?

Thanks in advance, and I'm with you guys!
 

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Hey, Golden Boys, a Genobro popping in to voice support! Hoping for the leak to be true, and for both our picks to get in.

Also, I wanted to ask a question: have any of you guys cleaned up/enhanced/recreated Isaac's pose in the banner leak? I've seen people say he's kneeling and casting Growth, but I'm having some trouble getting a clear mental image of it. Something that's especially bothering me is what's happening with his left leg...why is it all blue?

All the other characters' poses I've managed to envision, but Isaac's is escaping me. Can anyone clear this up for me?

Thanks in advance, and I'm with you guys!
Basically, his blue leg is him kneeling down on one knee. So his left knee is kneeled, similar to the sort of pose you'd make when proposing.
 

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Hey, Golden Boys, a Genobro popping in to voice support! Hoping for the leak to be true, and for both our picks to get in.

Also, I wanted to ask a question: have any of you guys cleaned up/enhanced/recreated Isaac's pose in the banner leak? I've seen people say he's kneeling and casting Growth, but I'm having some trouble getting a clear mental image of it. Something that's especially bothering me is what's happening with his left leg...why is it all blue?

All the other characters' poses I've managed to envision, but Isaac's is escaping me. Can anyone clear this up for me?

Thanks in advance, and I'm with you guys!
His left knee is on the ground with his for behind him so you can't see his boots (Isaac wears blue pants, so you're seeing the part of his pants that covers his thigh)
 

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It's cool how far we have come in just a few months. We didn't have much to fall back on before the Rathalos tweet and even then Isaac was not the most likely character after that. Then we go through a long time of no news and some losing hope and then this new leak comes out and re ignites a lot of fans faith in him making it into the roster. I am going to keep hoping for the best as Isaac is someone I have wanted in smash bros since brawl. I think our time is near boys. We will learn the truth in just a couple weeks. I hope I will be ready for whatever happens.
 

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Basically, his blue leg is him kneeling down on one knee. So his left knee is kneeled, similar to the sort of pose you'd make when proposing.
Hey Billy I just want to thank you for giving me hope for Isaac again with that Isaac for smash video you made a while back in August. I was in the shadows not really all that hopeful for Isaac despite me wanting him in dearly after what happened with smash 4, but then after watching that video, I came to join the smashboards thread here and Its been quite a adventure ever since. Thanks for making me believe in his inclusion again. I will keep supporting him and Shantae until the very end. I am going to hope for the best!
 

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Hey, Golden Boys, a Genobro popping in to voice support! Hoping for the leak to be true, and for both our picks to get in.

Also, I wanted to ask a question: have any of you guys cleaned up/enhanced/recreated Isaac's pose in the banner leak? I've seen people say he's kneeling and casting Growth, but I'm having some trouble getting a clear mental image of it. Something that's especially bothering me is what's happening with his left leg...why is it all blue?

All the other characters' poses I've managed to envision, but Isaac's is escaping me. Can anyone clear this up for me?

Thanks in advance, and I'm with you guys!
Back four pages or so i made my own sketch over the leak to show how his pose would look like: Here this should explain it

The one thing i got wrong is his scarf that is flowing upwards, i have to add that!
 

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Regarding that YouTube video of the french marketing company, the only possibly relevant thing I saw is a person preparing material (for review, I think) in by putting it in little plastic bags. Kinda interesting that it matches with the recent discovery that the wristbands are in a little plastic bag as well.

Probably insignificant, but just wanted to bring it up. :upsidedown:

Hey, Golden Boys, a Genobro popping in to voice support! Hoping for the leak to be true, and for both our picks to get in.

Also, I wanted to ask a question: have any of you guys cleaned up/enhanced/recreated Isaac's pose in the banner leak? I've seen people say he's kneeling and casting Growth, but I'm having some trouble getting a clear mental image of it. Something that's especially bothering me is what's happening with his left leg...why is it all blue?

All the other characters' poses I've managed to envision, but Isaac's is escaping me. Can anyone clear this up for me?

Thanks in advance, and I'm with you guys!
There's a recreation by someone from this thread just a couple of posts before yours. ;)
 
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Back four pages or so i made my own sketch over the leak to show how his pose would look like: Here this should explain it

The one thing i got wrong is his scarf that is flowing upwards, i have to add that!
Ah! Exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you! That clears it up significantly.:grin: I feel much better about that pose now.

Well done sketch, btw. Really like his expression. I hope the real art looks just like that!
 

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Yo, just want to shout out Skyblade12 Skyblade12 for his analysis earlier (The one he mentioned me on). You got full credit in today's video and I find your analysis very interesting to think about.

I did get some momentum on Twitter and SmashBoards on the Banner concept being a display assembly... well, that went to hell.
 
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If Issac is in he MUST be a friend of Yoshi in the story mode
I'm sure he's gonna make ton of adorable friends. :laugh:

However, there's still Isaac's one true bro out there still missing.

 
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New discovery guys. Remember that ACP-PLV video that @Metocles linked which showed how they made their promotional material and all that. I shared the link with someone else and they notified me that the video got taken down by the company around an hour ago which is really weird to me. Interesting that they haven't made an official statement

 
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New discovery guys. Remember that ACP-PLV video that @Metocles linked which showed how they made their promotional material and all that. I shared the link with someone else and they notified me that the video got taken down by the company around an hour ago which is really weird to me. Interesting that they haven't made an official statement

Interesting. But could this might just be them shutting the video down because of harassment? Anyone see if people were [badword]posting in the comments?
 
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Interesting. But could this might just be them shutting the video down because of harassment? Anyone see if people were [badword]posting in the comments?
Just a few comments talking about the leak the last time I saw it, which was 6pm pacific time yesterday..
 
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Interesting. But could this might just be them shutting the video down because of harassment? Anyone see if people were [badword]posting in the comments?
I saw a few Grinch comments down there nothing that bad, then again I only saw a few comments, Also I found this which makes interesting points about the company
 
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New discovery guys. Remember that ACP-PLV video that @Metocles linked which showed how they made their promotional material and all that. I shared the link with someone else and they notified me that the video got taken down by the company around an hour ago which is really weird to me. Interesting that they haven't made an official statement

They likely CAN’T make an official statement.

The topic of the Smash Bros. material is covered under NDA. They can’t confirm or deny it.

And if this is a breach of customer privacy, they can’t deny that either, because it would be seen as false advertising or fraud to others looking to retain their services.

Any official statement they do release will be carefully worded, with things like “it is not our policy to divulge confidential information” or something like that, which would blow this whole thing wide open.

I did get some momentum on Twitter and SmashBoards on the Banner concept being a display assembly... well, that went to hell.
How so? Did I have flaws in my logic or conclusions?
 
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