volbound1700
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With Sony getting into the fighting genre, is there pressure on Smash Brothers 4 to produce an amazing product to secure themselves as the top fighting game?
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Pretty much this right here.....Nope. Lets be honest, PSAS isn't going to set the world on fire, it isn't going to launch a new genre, its just Sony's take on Smash Bros. Saying that PSAS is a threat to Smash is like saying that SEGA All Stars Racing is a threat to Mario Kart.
Smash is in a league of its' own, and sub-genre of its' own that it not just is the boss of, but is the only series to put out quality games in said sub-genre.With Sony getting into the fighting genre, is there pressure on Smash Brothers 4 to produce an amazing product to secure themselves as the top fighting game?
yeah, these trailers differ so much in quality you can't even compare. the trailers revealing new characters in Brawl are much more appealing than those of PSASBR, which look pretty much bland, in my opinion.they've actually revealed 2 new characters as of late. Heihachi and this little weird cat thing. And i've saw their introduction trailers. And to be honest it doesn't have the same style when they introduced smash bros characters.
For some reason it's a lot more exciting seeing Sonic or Snake pop up on screen. Then it has watching these introductions. It's seeems very slow and sluggish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P75VvBU5sNY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpTlg-TSQRc
you tell me which one is better?
While I agree with this logic that I like competition, PSASBR isn't competition to Smash, unless you consider a minor league baseball team as competition to a Major League baseball team. However, rarely does such competition prevent "overcharging" (except in cases like Rock Band vs. Guitar Hero, in which Guitar Hero overcharged for everything), especially since PSASBR is probably going to cost $60, and Smash WiiU and 3DS are probably going to cost $50 and $40 respectively while being higher quality game.I've already posted my response, but I'd just like to say that I was really, really hoping PSA would be good. In a free market, competition is good for everyone. It keeps companies from overcharging(usually) and it encourages competitors to provide a superior product. If PSA does turn out to be awesome, which it probably won't, then Smash would be better off for it.
PSASBR doesn't have anywhere near the resources, funding, or talented minds that smash bros has in Sora Ltd, HAL Laboratories, and now Namco Bandai Games.PAS could push Nintendo to provide more resources to Smash to keep it on the top.
The problem is Snake and Mega Man aren't as big as say Donkey Kong, Link, and literally dozens of Pokémon. On top of that, PSASBR isn't getting Sonic, and Smash isn't losing Sonic; because Sonic makes money, and Sonic makes sense in Smash. Plus the Mario & Sonic series has sold about 23 million copies...Nintendo needs to lock up third parties such as Sonic and Megaman to stay ahead of PAS. If PAS can steal Sonic, Snake, Megaman, and some of these other strong, iconic third parties, it may be able to stand up to the powers that are Mario, DK, Link, Samus, etc. in the future. However, right now Nintendo has a huge advantage in that their 1st party material is iconic.
Actually the way it's designed, how you react to supers gauge your skill.I highly doubt it that this horrible game will affect smash bros 4. Its very uncompetitive, you can only kill characters with your specials, and kratos, god of *******.
This thread is actually about PSABR (puh-sabber) 2.The fact that the games aren't even going to be on the same system, released in the same year, and have completely different gameplay styles means that they're aren't in competition with each other at all.
"Is the Development of PlayStation All-Stars going to affect Smash Bros 4"This thread is actually about PSABR (puh-sabber) 2.
When Tekken makes a crossover, it's always Heichi.i'm actually surprised they got Heihachi considering Namco's working with Sakurai on Smash Bros.
That and I always thought Jin was the face of Tekken.
One thing i can see happening is them stealing Snake from Smash Bros. He's had more of a home at Sony Playstation consoles so that's one of their strengths.
I should actually be excited by this. I actually like a lot of Sony games I'm a fan of games like Uncharted, Assasin's Creed, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, so i see a lot of potential here and what characters they can get to do. However i don't like some of their choices. Killing people only by Specials for example. Also i love the way the damage comes into play with Smash. The higher the percent the further they fly. Here you don't see any of that. It looks very slow and sluggish here. Nothing has really stood out yet. And so far the revealed roster hasn't seem to of impressed me yet. Sony has some great characters over the years yet where's Lara Croft? Where's Nathan Drake? Where's Dante? Where's Cloud?
Will it affect Smash. I pretty much be repeating anyone here. They are 2 entirely different games. I applaud PASBR by trying to be different, but i think it's failing in that sense. And I believe it could be fun but i don't think it'll have the impact like Smash does.
The interesting thing though is no one expected Smash Bros. 64 to hit off the way it did. In fact if you read about how it all began with With Sakurai and Iwata and their prototype. You'd be amazed how something so little became so big. Melee improved from Smash 64 so much and Brawl with the introduction and of Snake and Sonic actually helped it become by far possibly one of the most popular Wii Games of all.
If anything there's a 2 year wait too. PASBR could be under the rug by then. So they wont really have any pressure to fight that unless Sony tries to bring out another and do their best to make it look better than Smash4 which would be very hard considering the hype train and the anticipation that is on Smash4 already. Even right now Smash4 already has a bigger interest than PASBR does and they haven't even revealed a roster yet.
YEAH PASBR is really going to affect Smash 4. (SARCASM)
You do realise it's just as, if not easier, to make fun of Nintendos characters? Grow up.kratos, god of *******.
Considering that Kojima begged for Snake to be in Melee and Brawl, I'd be rather surprised if he doesn't return in Smash 4, but it doesn't mean that he can't go and join other games. Heck, Brawl wasn't his first appearance in a Smash styled game.One thing i can see happening is them stealing Snake from Smash Bros. He's had more of a home at Sony Playstation consoles so that's one of their strengths.
honestly this game is not a knock off but a game that uses the same engine as smash. Do you consider all first person shooters a knock off of doom, or all fighters a knock off of street fighter?I highly doubt that it would affect Nintendo at all. The games are aimed at completely different audiences... Vita and 3DS are competitors as consoles, but the niche each title will fill will be exclusive to each system... and Nintendo fans will go for the game with Nintendo mascots while Sony fans will go for All-Stars anyway. All-Stars is also the "knock-off" title here, so it is going to be partially discredited for that anyway.
no i rly dont think so, psas is going to sux.
i agree it's not a treat but that's because it's releasing at a different time and a different console not because it will be a bad game.Nope. Lets be honest, PSAS isn't going to set the world on fire, it isn't going to launch a new genre, its just Sony's take on Smash Bros. Saying that PSAS is a threat to Smash is like saying that SEGA All Stars Racing is a threat to Mario Kart.
answers in bold.Overall PSASBR is just another smash clone like TMNT Smash, Cartoon Network Punch, Shrek Smash, etc. However, this one might not be totally terrible (although the two Jump Stars games were really fun). Still, I doubt it will touch smashes' quality.
read my reply to the first quote, I do not think this is just an another knockoff it plays differently based on many people who tried the game first hand.
Smash is in a league of its' own, and sub-genre of its' own that it not just is the boss of, but is the only series to put out quality games in said sub-genre.
smash is awesome but I think superbot got what it takes to make a game that can stand on it's on and be a good game.
Smash also has the best-selling fighting games ever; Melee and Brawl, Smash is the 4th best-selling fighting game series of all-time behind WWE, Tekken, and Street Fighter. Those series respectively have 55 games, 15 games (plus expansion games and ports), and 29 games (plus including ports) in said series-while appearing on multiple consoles!
Some newcomer copycat series isn't going to suddenly dethrone Smash Bros, especially made by Smash clone rookies with less budget, features, (exciting) characters, techniques, stages, items, modes, etc.
again with the copycat
Also, Smash WiiU and 3DS will launch 3-5 years after this game is released. Unless a (rushed) sequel comes out, I doubt this will be seen as "competition" in any sort by anyone.
There will be plenty of first part they only announced 10 characters and there is over 20 characters that's going to be in this. ( some franchises that 99% will show up are: ratchet, Jak( confirmed threw a leak, cole, and sackboy to name a few. Also if activision don't play hardball expect crash and spyro which are iconic to the ps) Also want to point out Nathan drake has been confirmed at e3.I thought PSAS was going to be pretty good, but from news about the game lately, my mind has changed. The biggest problem to me is the lack of first party characters. For some reason I think they should be advertising those before the third party ones. And no matter what anybody else says, Nintendo's first party characters are just so much better than anyone elses. That's why Smash Bros. works so well.
of course ssb has a bigger fanbase smash has three games out and this is psabr first.The simple fact is that SSB has a bigger fan-base. I severely doubt this will threaten a game that everybody already loves.
answers in bold^^^ QFT. Great, simple, and true post my friend!
While I agree with this logic that I like competition, PSASBR isn't competition to Smash, unless you consider a minor league baseball team as competition to a Major League baseball team. However, rarely does such competition prevent "overcharging" (except in cases like Rock Band vs. Guitar Hero, in which Guitar Hero overcharged for everything), especially since PSASBR is probably going to cost $60, and Smash WiiU and 3DS are probably going to cost $50 and $40 respectively while being higher quality game.
I mean no offense to you but this seems like a nintendo fanboyish comment to me, psas from what I seem is not a small league game but one the prob will launch a franchise. Smash is a great game and battle royal has the chance to be a great game as well. Playstation has a wealth of great games and franchises to choose from and there willingness to reach out to third party's might even serve as an advantage for them to appeal to the players who have never played a smash game.
However, I do want PSASBR to be a good game, just because the world can always use good games. Also, I want to see all the PlayStation "All Stars" together in a great game.
Why do you think this is going to be so bad?
PSASBR doesn't have anywhere near the resources, funding, or talented minds that smash bros has in Sora Ltd, HAL Laboratories, and now Namco Bandai Games.
superbot seems to be doing a decent job, there were handpicked just for this game and all have a fighting game history
The problem is Snake and Mega Man aren't as big as say Donkey Kong, Link, and literally dozens of Pokémon. On top of that, PSASBR isn't getting Sonic, and Smash isn't losing Sonic; because Sonic makes money, and Sonic makes sense in Smash. Plus the Mario & Sonic series has sold about 23 million copies...
Yes Nintendo has very iconic characters but they been around longer as well and was the first to put out tier 1 games.
how is this uncompetitive? you have to build up meter by killing your opponent, so you can not just camp and still kills. You have to plan out when you use your supers in order to maximize the amount of points you get from it. A horrible times super will result in less kills then a skilled place one.I highly doubt it that this horrible game will affect smash bros 4. Its very uncompetitive, you can only kill characters with your specials, and kratos, god of *******.
thisThe fact that the games aren't even going to be on the same system, released in the same year, and have completely different gameplay styles means that they're aren't in competition with each other at all.
answer in boldi'm actually surprised they got Heihachi considering Namco's working with Sakurai on Smash Bros.
That and I always thought Jin was the face of Tekken.
One thing i can see happening is them stealing Snake from Smash Bros. He's had more of a home at Sony Playstation consoles so that's one of their strengths.
I should actually be excited by this. I actually like a lot of Sony games I'm a fan of games like Uncharted, Assasin's Creed, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, so i see a lot of potential here and what characters they can get to do. However i don't like some of their choices. Killing people only by Specials for example. Also i love the way the damage comes into play with Smash. The higher the percent the further they fly. Here you don't see any of that. It looks very slow and sluggish here. Nothing has really stood out yet. And so far the revealed roster hasn't seem to of impressed me yet. Sony has some great characters over the years yet where's Lara Croft? Where's Nathan Drake? Where's Dante? Where's Cloud?
Nathan has been confirmed at E3 and the entire roster has not been shown there going to be over 20 characters 10 of them has been revealed.
Will it affect Smash. I pretty much be repeating anyone here. They are 2 entirely different games. I applaud PASBR by trying to be different, but i think it's failing in that sense. And I believe it could be fun but i don't think it'll have the impact like Smash does.
The interesting thing though is no one expected Smash Bros. 64 to hit off the way it did. In fact if you read about how it all began with With Sakurai and Iwata and their prototype. You'd be amazed how something so little became so big. Melee improved from Smash 64 so much and Brawl with the introduction and of Snake and Sonic actually helped it become by far possibly one of the most popular Wii Games of all.
If anything there's a 2 year wait too. PASBR could be under the rug by then. So they wont really have any pressure to fight that unless Sony tries to bring out another and do their best to make it look better than Smash4 which would be very hard considering the hype train and the anticipation that is on Smash4 already. Even right now Smash4 already has a bigger interest than PASBR does and they haven't even revealed a roster yet.
YEAH PASBR is really going to affect Smash 4. (SARCASM)